Death sentence! No clemency for foster mum who fed kids floor cleaner then went on Facebook for donations

[webfact]

Picture: Thai Rath

 

The central criminal court has handed down the death sentence to a woman known as "Mae Puk" in the media.

 

Natthiwan was given seven other aliases by the court as they considered charges under human trafficking legislation for assault causing death, attempted murder and fraud.

 

The court heard how Natthiwan had taken over the care of a 4 year old girl from the mother. 

 

Then starting in 2015 she started feeding the child floor cleaner to make her pitiable and sick.

 

The child developed severe intestinal problems, high blood pressure and was coughing blood.

 

She was taken into hospital as the foster mother went on Facebook to get donations for her "sick child", reported Thai Rath.

 

Worse was yet to come. 

 

Between September 2017 and May 2020 she started feeding floor cleaner to her own two year old son.

 

Donations to help him came from other plaintiffs in the shocking case.

 

The judgment decided that despite help given to the police the charges were of sufficient severity to justify the death penalty in the death of the first child.

 

She was also given a life sentence for the attempted murder of her son and ordered to return just over 40,000 baht to people who gave her money.

 

Her sentence was topped up by a further 30 years by the fraud charges related to begging for money under false pretences.

 

Thailand is one of 54 nations around the world that has the death penalty on the books and sporadically uses it, notes ASEAN NOW.

 

The last time it was used was in June 2018 (using the lethal injection method) and there are thought to be around 500 prisoners in Thailand on death row. 

 

 

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[AsianAtHeart]

Hers was not a crime of ignorance.  She was deliberately injuring and killing others for personal pecuniary gain.  Nor do I read any indication of remorse or apology on her part.  Deplorable!  Her sentence appears well justified, and will hopefully deter others who might think to do likewise.

[JoePai]

Inject her with floor cleaner first to make her suffer - start tomorrow morning please

[NativeBob]

Too much for peace-loving thais, but it doesn't seem unusual ever since. She thought about this unthinkable cruelty as a "lifehack" of easy money. 

And yet this story is sickening.

 

[Gecko123]

I sometimes think crimes against children committed by mothers don't get the societal attention they deserves. That she did this not only to her own child but to a child who was entrusted to her care borders on the unspeakable.

 

I do have to wonder though whether the woman underwent any type of psychological evaluation prior to sentencing. Her behavior sounds somewhat like "factitious disorder imposed on another (previously called Munchausen syndrome by proxy) when someone falsely claims that another person has physical or psychological signs or symptoms of illness, or causes injury or disease in another person with the intention of deceiving others."

 

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/factitious-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20356028

Edited September 16, 2022 by Gecko123

[Gluuay yai]

So they topped up her life sentence will she be serving that before or after her death sentence?

[JustAnotherFarang]

5 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

I sometimes think crimes against children committed by mothers get the societal attention they deserves. That she not only did this to her own child but to a child who was entrusted to her care borders on the unspeakable. I do wonder however whether the woman underwent any type of psychological evaluation prior to sentencing. Her behavior sounds somewhat like "factitious disorder imposed on another (previously called Munchausen syndrome by proxy) when someone falsely claims that another person has physical or psychological signs or symptoms of illness, or causes injury or disease in another person with the intention of deceiving others."

 

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/factitious-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20356028

who cares about her...... suffer the children

[Digitalbanana]

36 minutes ago, AsianAtHeart said:

and will hopefully deter others who might think to do likewise.

There are other people who think like this as well?

[webfact]

Woman sentenced to death for poisoning her own children
 

 

Thailand’s Criminal Court sentenced a woman to death yesterday (Thursday) after finding her guilty of poisoning her own 2-year-old son and 4-year-old adopted daughter with an abrasive substance, to make them sick so she could appeal to the public for donations on social media to help the sick children.

 

The adopted daughter died due to the poisoning.

 

The 29-year-old single mother, identified as Nittha, aka “Mae Pook”, was charged with attempted murder, human trafficking, assault causing serious injury, assault causing the death of another person, defrauding the public and violations of the Computer Crime Act.

 

The case dates back four years, when the woman took her 4-year-old daughter to Thammasat University Hospital for medical treatment after she developed acute stomach ache and began vomiting blood.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/woman-sentenced-to-death-for-poisoning-her-own-children/

 

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[MyFriend You]

42 minutes ago, AsianAtHeart said:

Hers was not a crime of ignorance.  She was deliberately injuring and killing others for personal pecuniary gain.  Nor do I read any indication of remorse or apology on her part.  Deplorable!  Her sentence appears well justified, and will hopefully deter others who might think to do likewise.

Just hope this is dealt with very very slowly, give her a lot of time in Solitary confinement to reflect on what she has done, then send her out into general population making sure every knows what she did,   She won't last long...........No Peace for Her

[Laughing Gravy]

3 hours ago, AsianAtHeart said:

Hers was not a crime of ignorance

Agree.

 

3 hours ago, AsianAtHeart said:

She was deliberately injuring and killing others for personal pecuniary gain

Totally agree.

3 hours ago, AsianAtHeart said:

Nor do I read any indication of remorse or apology on her part.  Deplorable! 

Again, I agree.

 

3 hours ago, AsianAtHeart said:

Her sentence appears well justified, and will hopefully deter others who might think to do likewise.

I totally disagree. Without getting into the debate of the death penalty, it does not, has never done and never will deter people from killing.

[Lacrimas]

Monster, rot in hell

[steven100]

oh dear,    what a nasty person she is.  Push her of a cliff and watch her fly . 

[thailand49]

15 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Agree.

 

Totally agree.

Again, I agree.

 

I totally disagree. Without getting into the debate of the death penalty, it does not, has never done and never will deter people from killing.

" I totally disagree "

You should have just said that!

But you continue with the rest of your comment " don't want to debate " 

As they say how rich of you! 

 

[macca3248]

Good !

[Dukeleto]

I am literally speechless. I am so utterly shocked that someone could do this. I can only think that this persons brain was wired in such a way that she believed what she was doing was ok. No rational thinking normal person could even think to do this. Sociopath?

[chang1]

18 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Agree.

 

Totally agree.

Again, I agree.

 

I totally disagree. Without getting into the debate of the death penalty, it does not, has never done and never will deter people from killing.

It's probably less of a deterrence than life in a Thai prison but at least she could never harm anyone again. 

What to do in cases like this possibly involving mental issues is never going to have a perfect solution and I am glad I don't have that responsibility. 

However I  will say capital punishment should only be used in cases where guilt is beyond doubt as some people on death row have been found innocent.

She may have been coerced or be taking the blame for someone else. 

 

[Laughing Gravy]

3 minutes ago, chang1 said:

What to do in cases like this possibly involving mental issues is never going to have a perfect solution and I am glad I don't have that responsibility. 

I agree with you.

 

4 minutes ago, chang1 said:

However I  will say capital punishment should only be used in cases where guilt is beyond doubt as some people on death row have been found innocent

That is also a big issue. Plus capital punishment doesn't prevent deaths and isn't a deterrent. Yes it maybe justice for some but I always felt it is an easy way out.

 

Hard Labour, with the proceeds going to the families victims until the day they die would have more value than a quick way out by death.  Just an opinion.

[tomazbodner]

3 hours ago, Gluuay yai said:

So they topped up her life sentence will she be serving that before or after her death sentence?

Death sentence can be turned into life imprisonment, which can be turned into 30 years, which can be turned to early release, etc. By stacking things up, you basically try to prevent this person going free. And even then they might.

[vandeventer]

20 minutes ago, steven100 said:

oh dear,    what a nasty person she is.  Push her of a cliff and watch her fly . 

She just might as she can't be human for doing what she did.

[Laughing Gravy]

18 minutes ago, thailand49 said:

" I totally disagree "

You should have just said that!

But you continue with the rest of your comment " don't want to debate " 

As they say how rich of you! 

 

Thanks for that.

Here was me thinking that this was a forum for putting your point of view forward. I don't and will not debate this. I have given my point of view. If you don't like it you can always...... not read it or even comment.

[huangnon]

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Between September 2017 and May 2020 she started feeding floor cleaner to her own two year old son.

 

This just beggars belief.. What an evil <deleted>

[steven100]

no basket of bird sh_t essence or fruit or bunch of flowers or wai's all around or misunderstanding or photo op with the governor or an honest taxi driver or a packet of crisps ..... 

 

no no no   ... none of that BS for you b_tch ......   straight to the dog house for you    !!!  rot there and the ants can finish you dog. 

[4MyEgo]

1 hour ago, Laughing Gravy said:

I totally disagree. Without getting into the debate of the death penalty, it does not, has never done and never will deter people from killing.

Regardless, she killed a little kid that was entrusted to her, she used the child for money, the child suffered for years before dying, and this evil woman deserves her life be cut short.

 

If it were up to me, I would treat her the same way she did the little girl, serve her poison, let her die a slow and painful death.

 

The above said, an eye for an eye, is an eye for an eye, regardless if it deters others, justice served, a life for a life, why because it was a deliberate, callus act on an innocent child, no doubt she cuddled the child when she was suffering, which would have made it worse, showing the child that she was caring for her when in fact she was killing her.

 

Death by low doses of poison till her intestines can't take it anymore. 

[alien365]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

She was also given a life sentence for the attempted murder of her son and ordered to return just over 40,000 baht to people who gave her money.

Does this means she did all that for 40,000 baht? 

[spidermike007]

I consider the death penalty to be an excellent alternative to housing someone in a prison for the rest of their lives. It should end up costing the state far less, and it cleans up the oxygen in the process. Why should a person this toxic continue to have the right to consume oxygen? Just be rid of her. And make it happen quickly. 

[thailand49]

1 hour ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Thanks for that.

Here was me thinking that this was a forum for putting your point of view forward. I don't and will not debate this. I have given my point of view. If you don't like it you can always...... not read it or even comment.

See that is where you fail in your comprehension and thought! 

You have every right to comment you have stated that clearly but your comments if you don't understand is telling others they aren't afforded the same right you expect by saying " you not want to debate " thereafter give your view then slam the door so there isn't a response. 

Then you double down like a child " I gave my view you don't like it don't read or comment " 

You are on a public forum you open your mouth taking such a position what are you expecting a stroke of your ego! ????

As noted "  you should have just noted " I disagree "

take your own advice if you don't like the comment don't read it or comment.

I've not stated whethercI agree or disagree with you

Just Saying " disagree "

[Catoni]

4 hours ago, Digitalbanana said:

There are other people who think like this as well?

You might be surprised how many mothers kill their children. Like the mother who drove her three kids to a lake, and made the car  go into and sink the lake and drowned them. I can’t imagine the thoughts in the children’s minds when they realized what what happening to them……done to then by their own mother. 

   Or mothers who drown their kids in the bathtub.   Drowning seems to be a favourite with for women to get rid of children.  
   And then there’ Casey Anthony….

Simply horrifying and evil.  

[shackleton]

Well there will be no sympathy for this woman for what she has done 

In the pursuit of greed money wise 

Deserves what's coming to her ???? 

[Gecko123]

7 minutes ago, Catoni said:

You might be surprised how many mothers kill their children. Like the mother who drove her three kids to a lake, and made the car  go into and sink the lake and drowned them. I can’t imagine the thoughts in the children’s minds when they realized what what happening to them……done to then by their own mother. 

   Or mothers who drown their kids in the bathtub.   Drowning seems to be a favourite with for women to get rid of children.  
   And then there’ Casey Anthony….

Simply horrifying and evil.  

I follow crime related current events and have noticed the drowning pattern as well. My theory is that from a psychological standpoint, drowning provides an "intervening event" which helps the mother cope with the guilt of killing the child.

 

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/french-woman-who-left-baby-to-drown-gets-20-years-in-jail-1423150

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/14/nyregion/erin-merdy-coney-island.html

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Yates

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/07/us/minnesota-children-drowned/index.html