Popular Post webfact Posted September 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2022 The shooting down of the marijuana bill in Parliament last week sparked concerns on both sides of the debate. The pro-pot camp is worried the legalization of cannabis will be reversed, while others – including many doctors – are afraid that consumption of cannabis without proper controls will continue. Will marijuana become illegal again? MPs from two major parties – the Democrats and Pheu Thai – have called for a review of the draft law’s content, but they have also suggested that it may be time to reconsider whether cannabis should be removed from the list of illegal narcotics. Chaithawat Tulathon, secretary-general of the opposition Move Forward Party, called on Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul to cancel the decriminalization of cannabis until the Marijuana Act is implemented. Anutin is also leader of the coalition’s Bhumjaithai Party, whose key election promise was to legalize marijuana. As such, Bhumjaithai insists it will do everything to ensure the recent legalization is not reversed. Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/why-was-thailands-cannabis-bill-voted-down-and-will-this-derail-legalization/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2022-09-23 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Monthly car subscription with first-class insurance, 24x7 assistance and more in one price - click here to find out more! 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted September 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2022 Them fighting over details is a good thing ......... gives us longer with no restrictions of any kind. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SunnyinBangrak Posted September 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2022 Can farangs be Thai policemen? Can you just imagine the grift possibilities if wacky baccy is made illegal again. Police will have the list of 30 odd million people that registered to grow with that app. Knocking on doors never was so lucrative. It would be the greatest extortion spree ever, and I want part of it???? 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2baht Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 They would'nt know if they were coming or going! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DezLez Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 5 hours ago, 2baht said: They would'nt know if they were coming or going! I think the know when the are coming, they just don't know where they are going! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post whereyougo Posted September 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2022 How many people died since legalisation, pretty sure none. As for the drug making thais dopey... 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smithson Posted September 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2022 Thailand now appears to have the world's most liberal cannabis laws or maybe no laws at all and very little has happened. The society runs as it did before. It's mainly been positive - fewer inmates, but really the impact is minimal. So why do so many countries still ban it? 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thingamabob Posted September 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2022 How can smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol be allowed if use of pot is not ? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unblocktheplanet Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Oooh, would they ever look stupid closing down the dispensaries & busting folks again! No matter how the law goes, it's de fact(o). Caused zero problems, too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 19 hours ago, webfact said: Anutin is also leader of the coalition’s Bhumjaithai Party, whose key election promise was to legalize marijuana. As such, Bhumjaithai insists it will do everything to ensure the recent legalization is not reversed. Anutin what a plonker... his veiled attempt of securing votes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 8 hours ago, Thingamabob said: How can smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol be allowed if use of pot is not ? You have to draw a line somewhere? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Gravy Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 A typical Thailand s it show of poor organisation and even poorer planning.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Should all be crystal clear from the haze when any opposition members become unusually wealthy by next week ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CrunchWrapSupreme Posted September 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2022 The yaba is rampant out here in the moo bans. More are reporting young boys out all night up to mischief, stealing things from shops and front yards, then they sleep all day and don't go to school. It's become dirt cheap as it's been pouring across the borders, with certain people paid to look the other way. The yaba incidents on the news, with shirtless or naked guys trashing a shop then having to be dragged into the back of a pickup, have become a nightly routine. Would be far preferable for them to just smoke a little ganja, after which they'll peaceful and docile. But then certain people don't like that it can be grown on one's own or obtained locally, and they'd no longer get a cut from it coming in from somewhere. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbin Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 3 hours ago, CrunchWrapSupreme said: The yaba is rampant out here in the moo bans. More are reporting young boys out all night up to mischief, stealing things from shops and front yards, then they sleep all day and don't go to school. It's become dirt cheap as it's been pouring across the borders, with certain people paid to look the other way. The yaba incidents on the news, with shirtless or naked guys trashing a shop then having to be dragged into the back of a pickup, have become a nightly routine. Would be far preferable for them to just smoke a little ganja, after which they'll peaceful and docile. But then certain people don't like that it can be grown on one's own or obtained locally, and they'd no longer get a cut from it coming in from somewhere. One can only hope that significant numbers of yaba users of all ages find that Ganja is a more pleasant "high" and yaba use declines.. Ganja seems like a much better "fit' for the average Thai (and everyone that doesn't want to spend a few hours grinding their teeth..) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 On 9/23/2022 at 8:54 AM, BritManToo said: Them fighting over details is a good thing ......... gives us longer with no restrictions of any kind. Yes but if you are smoking use your brains because foreigners smoking it in public and on beaches without a care is a sure way to get it banned very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 15 hours ago, Thingamabob said: How can smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol be allowed if use of pot is not ? Problem is I believe a higher percentage of people who start smoking pot move onto harder drugs later. My brother was one who later overdosed and died from a bad batch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalawaan Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, bobbin said: One can only hope that significant numbers of yaba users of all ages find that Ganja is a more pleasant "high" and yaba use declines.. Ganja seems like a much better "fit' for the average Thai (and everyone that doesn't want to spend a few hours grinding their teeth..) If it was legal like booze, kids would find it much harder to access. And the dose would be easier to regulate to stop many negative effects. The Whermacht overran western Europe on meth. https://time.com/5752114/nazi-military-drugs/ so where were all the German meth heads? The only way to control drugs is to stop lying to ourselves about the harms, which exist, but are vastly exaggerated, and start supplying them to those that want them, controlled just like tobacco and booze. There is no other way that doesn't eventually end in a state of complete societal chaos. Edited September 24, 2022 by chalawaan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chalawaan Posted September 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, monkfish said: Problem is I believe a higher percentage of people who start smoking pot move onto harder drugs later. My brother was one who later overdosed and died from a bad batch. "Gateway drug" is a myth. So while your statement is true, the inference that it "all begins with weed" is not. The reality is that people who use one drug, are more likely to try other drugs. People who become drug dependant, versus about 96% of recreational users, are often suffering from unresolved childhood trauma, such as sexual abuse, or even battlefield PTSD. Edited September 24, 2022 by chalawaan 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, chalawaan said: "Gateway drug" is a myth. So while your statement is true, the inference that it "all begins with weed" is not. The reality is that people who use one drug, are more likely to try other drugs. People who become drug dependant, versus about 96% of recreational users, are often suffering from unresolved childhood trauma, such as sexual abuse, or even battlefield PTSD. Well I don't really agree and that's just from my own personal experience most people I know who started smoking Pot also tried stronger drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chalawaan Posted September 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2022 6 hours ago, hotchilli said: You have to draw a line somewhere? How is that going? Crime up. Supply up. Use up. Here's a thought: No line, no crime. Here's the proof: America's failed booze prohibition stunt. Legalise. Educate. Tax. Supply. The cartels and all the related street crime ends. But because they've so successfully brainwashed the electorate to fear drugs without understanding the science of addiction, they cannot reverse course. And here we are. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalawaan Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, monkfish said: Well I don't really agree and that's just from my own personal experience most people I know who started smoking Pot also tried stronger drugs. You are not even trying to understand my argument, I don't disagree with your claim, but it does not follow weed is a risk factor for harder drugs, it just means anyone who uses ANY drugs is more likely to use other drugs. That's a big leap. Also, your personal experience of knowing some dudes is not a scientific method of reaching important conclusions about drug use. Edited September 24, 2022 by chalawaan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, chalawaan said: You are not even trying to understand my argument, you're just stuck in your groove, and that's that. Thus, part of the problem? Well I used to smoke but gave it up and I do understand your argument but don't agree that's all and so now you say I am stuck in a groove? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 The Democrats and Pheu Thai are on the wrong side of history, with this populist legalization. And it is the wrong time for them to be so wrong, with an election looming in the not too distant future. If they want to have any chance of victory, they need to be progressive, and look to the future. If the RDP (regressive dinosaur party) could get this legalized, then this just makes the other parties look sluggard and out of touch with the people. Get your act together guys, and get with the times! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 11 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: If they want to have any chance of victory, they need to be progressive, If they want any real chance of winning they'll need more guns, tanks and soldiers. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superal Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 15 hours ago, Thingamabob said: How can smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol be allowed if use of pot is not ? Lets not forget vaping . The maximum penalty is 30,000 baht fine and a 10 year prison sentence but I think it is aimed mostly at farangs as Thais openly vape . Smoking pot is now legal and will be for a long time but it is much more harmful than vaping which is seen as a way to quit regular tobacco smoking . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 I agree that Cannabis should be legalized for medical purposes and even recreational use if people do it in private without disturbing others. I don't agree that people take big Spliff's down to the beach thinking they are cool and boast about it on social media. When young people see it they will also want to try just to look cool and I don't think smoking anything is good for your lungs. There are other ways to take it apart from smoking but they just don't look as cool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daveAustin Posted September 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2022 20 hours ago, Smithson said: Thailand now appears to have the world's most liberal cannabis laws or maybe no laws at all and very little has happened. The society runs as it did before. It's mainly been positive - fewer inmates, but really the impact is minimal. So why do so many countries still ban it? County's ban it because it would impact traditional revenue streams--alcohol and tobacco duties and the sale of pharmaceuticals. It also keeps politicians looking 'proper' and responsible to their electorate. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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