Thailand Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 I don't think any of the forums or social media platforms are compulsory so it's not exactly a no brainer if you don't want to participate? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 6 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Also, Musk's Twitter has started fact checking the left. This will come as a surprise for many used to not having their false narratives questioned and corrected. Good that he started with a notorious liar to fact check, I like this. I like it a lot. "Atweet by US President Joe Biden has been fact-checked on Twitter barely two days after Elon Musk finalised his $US44 billion takeover deal of the popular social networking service." https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/joe-bidens-lies-fact-checked-by-elon-musks-twitter/ar-AA13yzYS It appears Musk's Twitter will be cracking down on the "old style" of disinformation ie fake facts, not what we are used to -cracking down or censoring factual reports that are unbeneficial to the democrats. Big change! President Biden has been fact-checked by the "lame stream liberal media" since before he took office. Just use any search engine and type in "president biden media fact check". 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: It wasn't actually hate speech though , people were experimenting and seeing what words were no longer banned . People were testing the limits of what twitter will allow Can you point to where in the report it identifies these people as amateur experimentalists? Stop making things up. Edited October 31, 2022 by placeholder 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: "the data conclusively shows that there is correlation between Musk’s arrival and a broader perceived acceptability to posted hostile content on Twitter." "Results conclusively showed that there was an immediate spike in Tweets using one or more of the analyzed hate terms in the period leading up to Musk taking over the company." "In sum, the content and tone of Twitter posts became measurably more oriented towards hate speech on the day Elon Musk became CEO of the company with significant reach attained for this hate content." The dangers of such an appeal in radicalizing children and spreading misinformation to an audience still learning key critical thinking skills remain acute. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Drake Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Twitter is the best existing source for breaking news. You see stories almost as they happen. OTOH, if you wait for slow moving forums, such as Aseannow, you may need to wait a day before you see anything. And on many topics, with these "curated" sites, you'll see nothing at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, John Drake said: Twitter is the best existing source for breaking news. You see stories almost as they happen. OTOH, if you wait for slow moving forums, such as Aseannow, you may need to wait a day before you see anything. And on many topics, with these "curated" sites, you'll see nothing at all. Very true, that's why I joined for breaking news 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Drake Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: Very true, that's why I joined for breaking news And, btw, I've had a Twitter account for almost ten years. During that time, however, I've never posted a single "tweet." It's just a good information source. In fact, I'm reading it right now in another browser window. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Just now, John Drake said: And, btw, I've had a Twitter account for almost ten years. During that time, however, I've never posted a single "tweet." It's just a good information source. In fact, I'm reading it right now in another browser window. I've had one for around 6 years, same never posted, don't even re tweet things, just like posts where necessary so I can then reference them as needed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mokwit Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 19 minutes ago, mokwit said: Damage control 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mac Mickmanus Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 48 minutes ago, mokwit said: Yes, so it was a small group of people deliberately posting abusive content to cause an issue . 300 people posting thousands of abusive tweets and re tweets to make some point . Its not how it was portrayed to be, it wasn't 1000's of racists all posting abusive material because they had the freedom to do so . It was a small group of people causing havoc . May have been the recently fired guys getting revenge on Musk for firing them ? ^Which is a suggestion and NOT an accusation Edited October 31, 2022 by Mac Mickmanus 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 21 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Yes, so it was a small group of people deliberately posting abusive content to cause an issue . 300 people posting thousands of abusive tweets and re tweets to make some point . Its not how it was portrayed to be, it wasn't 1000's of racists all posting abusive material because they had the freedom to do so . It was a small group of people causing havoc . May have been the recently fired guys getting revenge on Musk for firing them ? Do you have evidence it was recently fired guys, or is that an unsubstantiated slur? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 58 minutes ago, mokwit said: Are they able to find the source of the tweets ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 23 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Do you have evidence it was recently fired guys, or is that an unsubstantiated slur? The other aspect to this being that if a relitively small number of people can cause so much hate speech then it only reinforces the need for more effective controls. Otherwise the lesson learned will be for more of the same from aligned groups with intent on causing harm or disruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pomchop Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Can you show that is a lie ?, or tell me what words to use a in a search engine to find out for myself how about you do a tiny bit of research where you will find the sfo police said that the attacker did not know pelosi......it might take musk or anyone about five minutes or less to determine it was/is a lie rather than spread rumours that they met in a late night bar implying it was some kind of pickup in a bar rather than a deranged nutcase unknown to pelosi that broke in and attempted to kill him (according to the police who actually investigated the case)....of course musk and conspiracy theory types can't be bothered with research in their haste to spread garbage bs and not even admit or apologize for it...despicable. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: It wasn't actually hate speech though , people were experimenting and seeing what words were no longer banned . People were testing the limits of what twitter will allow Title of OP clearly indicates there was hate speech... "Elon Musk's Twitter roils with hate speech as trolls test new limits'' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 Several bickering and off-topic posts have been removed along with ensuing replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said: I did only ask You only asked a question based on no evidence at all? So transparent. It is to laugh. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 A reported post repeating an unsourced and unsubstantiated claim has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcarer Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 5 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Yes, so it was a small group of people deliberately posting abusive content to cause an issue . 300 people posting thousands of abusive tweets and re tweets to make some point . Its not how it was portrayed to be, it wasn't 1000's of racists all posting abusive material because they had the freedom to do so . It was a small group of people causing havoc . May have been the recently fired guys getting revenge on Musk for firing them ? ^Which is a suggestion and NOT an accusation When you retweet a racist or hateful post you are just as guilty. Twitter did not say how many were retweets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mac Mickmanus Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 Just now, coolcarer said: When you retweet a racist or hateful post you are just as guilty. Twitter did not say how many were retweets. A group of 300 people posting 50 000 tweets and that gives you a rough idea . But my point was that it wasn't thousands of people all posting racist tweets , it was a small group who deliberately posted racist tweets en masse to conspire to prove some kind of point . They used racist tweets to attack something , they may have been trying to damage Twitter and Musk , no doubt they will completely deny everything , say it was nothing to do with them and claim to have no idea what you are talking about and look the other way 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcarer Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: A group of 300 people posting 50 000 tweets and that gives you a rough idea . But my point was that it wasn't thousands of people all posting racist tweets , it was a small group who deliberately posted racist tweets en masse to conspire to prove some kind of point . They used racist tweets to attack something , they may have been trying to damage Twitter and Musk , no doubt they will completely deny everything , say it was nothing to do with them and claim to have no idea what you are talking about and look the other way A highly followed account posting one tweet can receive thousands of retweets, just ask Elon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mac Mickmanus Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, coolcarer said: A highly followed account posting one tweet can receive thousands of retweets, just ask Elon. But initially it was claimed that tens of thousands of racists had taken over Twitter and making racists posts all over the place and this was because Musk bought twitter . Turns out it was just a small group of 300 people making numerous posts 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcarer Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said: But initially it was claimed that tens of thousands of racists had taken over Twitter and making racists posts all over the place and this was because Musk bought twitter . Turns out it was just a small group of 300 people making numerous posts Saying that it came from a small nos of accounts doesn't matter. The followers will amplify those tweets by retweeting then it goes on. Just a poor excuse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, coolcarer said: Saying that it came from a small nos of accounts doesn't matter. The followers will amplify those tweets by retweeting then it goes on. Just a poor excuse. Since Musk took over, Twitter is even worse. Nice job! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 15 minutes ago, coolcarer said: Saying that it came from a small nos of accounts doesn't matter. The followers will amplify those tweets by retweeting then it goes on. Just a poor excuse. Well it makes a huge amount of difference . It shows that its not a random bunch of racists all posting abusive messages now that Musk has taken over , its shows there is a small bunch of people sabotaging Twitter by using racist messages to achieve their aims Like, this is a false flag operation, a conspiracy . Thats not a conspiracy theory , that's a fact 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcarer Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Well it makes a huge amount of difference . It shows that its not a random bunch of racists all posting abusive messages now that Musk has taken over , its shows there is a small bunch of people sabotaging Twitter by using racist messages to achieve their aims Like, this is a false flag operation, a conspiracy . Thats not a conspiracy theory , that's a fact You’re just not getting the logical conclusion to this are you. If it was just 300 people where those posts originated then then how many of their followers went on to amplify them by re tweeting. This has not been mentioned or perhaps you already know from somewhere? 50,000 posts from 300 people. Those 300 people will have followers. Unless twitter was super quick to delete all the posts. If that’s the case then welcome to moderation and how it will need to carry on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 38 minutes ago, coolcarer said: You’re just not getting the logical conclusion to this are you. If it was just 300 people where those posts originated then then how many of their followers went on to amplify them by re tweeting. This has not been mentioned or perhaps you already know from somewhere? 50,000 posts from 300 people. Those 300 people will have followers. Unless twitter was super quick to delete all the posts. If that’s the case then welcome to moderation and how it will need to carry on. It was 50 000 tweets from 300 people . "More than 50,000 Tweets repeatedly using a particular slur came from just 300 accounts." (link above) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) Kanye has been reinstated on Twitter. Yes Twitter is definitely going to be a much bigger Parler. The right wing extremist haters are having a field day. Does Kanye have any commercial associations left to be "death con 3'd" other than music streaming? To add, 100 percent Musk is anti LGBT (like the right wing in general including Putin who is obsessed). Remember his disgusting attack on the British cave boy rescuer in Thailand and now this tweet promotion of a homophobic obviously 100 percent FAKE "news" story about the attempted murder of Paul Pelosi. Of course it plays in Peoria because it happened in San Francisco. I'm sure many millions of Americans believe it. There is also news he is firing factions in Twitter that promote diversity. Twitter -- blank you very very much. Edited October 31, 2022 by Jingthing 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Maybe we'll get lucky and he'll run Twitter into the ground. We really didn't need another Parler. Elon Musk’s Paul Pelosi tweet proves he has no business running Twitter | Robert Reich | The Guardian Quote Elon Musk’s Paul Pelosi tweet proves he has no business running Twitter Robert Reich If Musk’s tweet doesn’t raise bright red warning signs all over the world about his judgment and character, I don’t know what will Just three days after Elon Musk bought Twitter, he posted a tweet promoting the baseless allegation that Paul Pelosi, the husband of the speaker of the House, who was assaulted on Friday at the couple’s home, had been drunk and in a fight with a male prostitute. The police found Paul Pelosi, 82, attacked with a hammer inside his home by a man, David DePape, who had entered through the back door, seeking the speaker. Musk’s tweet, later deleted, came in response to a tweet posted on Saturday by Hillary Clinton, attacking Republicans for spreading “hate and deranged conspiracy theories” that she said had emboldened the man who attacked Nancy Pelosi’s husband. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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