'Not a repudiation': Joe Biden holds off red wave, gets unexpected boost from midterm election

[Walker88]

49 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You continue to ignore the fact that the US was affected by covid when Biden took over, and had been for some time.

No western government had a better result, to my knowledge- they were all in decline due to lockdowns.

 

the pandemic isn't over- people continue to die with covid.

 

Was the budget deficit not caused by the covid response ie lockdowns and the need to support jobless Americans?

Covid was as bad as it was BECAUSE of 45. His..."it's 15 people now...and soon it will be zero", plus ignoring the threat, despite being told repeatedly what was coming.....

 

Covid is still killing, but mostly the obese (78%). That should be a wake up call that 'fat shaming' is a social necessity.

 

The budget deficit exploded before Covid hit. The repub tax cut that fed the Donor Class got it rolling, and it never stopped.....until Biden won.

 

The facts all point in the same direction: 45's (poorly attended) Inauguration speech about "American Carnage" wasn't a history lesson, it was a prediction of what was to come, and damn if 45 didn't not make it happen.

[nauseus]

41 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

That "divisive teleprompter reader" has achieved quite a bit, if one can be objective instead of a Cult 45er.

 

Biden inherited 6.8% unemployment from 45. UE is now 3.5%. Post Covid

 

Biden inherited a Recession (the usual repub gift to Dems, who always have to clean up the mess left by repubs); economy is growing now Covid again.

 

Biden inherited a pandemic out of control; it's over now Inherited from?

 

Biden inherited a runaway budget deficit, as 45 added $7,000,000,000,000 to the National Debt, or 37% of the total debt since 1776, but cut the yearly deficit by $350 billion in FY 2021 and $1.4 TRILLION in FY2022. No - they just cut the addition to the deficit by 1.4T - less emergency spending spending due to Covid. 

 

Biden inherited a broken NATO; he re-energized NATO, and now NATO has helped kick russia's slimy butt in Ukraine. Not so - NATO was already strengthening after Trump's warnings before Biden got in..

 

Rather than announce yet another "Infrastructure Week" but getting absolutely nothing done, Biden got a bipartisan infrastructure Bill passed that will benefit every American. Confusion reigns - only about half of the money goes on infrastructure and even assumes the broad use of fossil fuels for decades to come - Green New Deal or just BS???

 

 

[nauseus]

1 minute ago, Walker88 said:

Covid was as bad as it was BECAUSE of 45. His..."it's 15 people now...and soon it will be zero", plus ignoring the threat, despite being told repeatedly what was coming.....

 

Covid is still killing, but mostly the obese (78%). That should be a wake up call that 'fat shaming' is a social necessity.

 

The budget deficit exploded before Covid hit. The repub tax cut that fed the Donor Class got it rolling, and it never stopped.....until Biden won.

 

The facts all point in the same direction: 45's (poorly attended) Inauguration speech about "American Carnage" wasn't a history lesson, it was a prediction of what was to come, and damn if 45 didn't not make it happen.

More nonsense. 

[Jingthing]

22 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Come on.  Trump did try to cheat but it failed because those running the states wouldn't go along.  If he was successful at installing his goons in key places, e.g., governor of Pennsylvania, he'd have a better shot.  That would have been the only way he could have won because the vast majority of Americans hate his guts.

DeSantis is a Trumpist with a slicker presentation.

[gargamon]

9 hours ago, onthedarkside said:

GOP finger-pointing begins as control of Congress is still up in the air

Some Republicans blamed former President Donald Trump for endorsing poor candidates

Trumpty-Dumpty sat on a wall

Trumpty-Dumpty had a great fall

All the king's horses

And all the king's men

Couldn't put Trumpty back together again

 

[nauseus]

25 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Come on.  Trump did try to cheat but it failed because those running the states wouldn't go along.  If he was successful at installing his goons in key places, e.g., governor of Pennsylvania, he'd have a better shot.  That would have been the only way he could have won because the vast majority of Americans hate his guts.

Trump did try to cheat? i never read about that. Strange.

[nauseus]

1 minute ago, gargamon said:

Trumpty-Dumpty sat on a wall

Trumpty-Dumpty had a great fall

All the king's horses

And all the king's men

Couldn't put Trumpty back together again

 

You should copyright that - soonest!????

[cdemundo]

Interesting to see these people have strong support in their districts.

AOC in particular seems to evoke strong negative (possibly ambivalent) reactions from some people.

 

‘Squad’ members cruise to reelection

A group of six progressive House lawmakers known as the “squad” are all projected to cruise to reelection in Tuesday’s midterm elections.

Various outlets have called the races for Democratic Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (N.Y.), Ilhan Omar (Minn.), Ayanna Pressley (Mass.), Rashida Tlaib (Mich.), Cori Bush (Mo.) and Jamaal Bowman (N.Y.).

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3726475-squad-members-cruise-to-re-election/

[Walker88]

2000 years ago Rome fell to the Visigoths. In the US in these midterms, the barbarians were at the gates, but they were held off. Democracy seems to have survived. Most of the election deniers endorsed by 45 have had to run to their safespace as losers like 45, while 45's supposed upcoming announcement of his candidacy in 2024 will have all the impact of the comet Kahoutek or Y2K.

 

Biden made the right move, noting in his pre-election speeches the threat to the future of democracy and freedom represented by fascists and election deniers. That resonated. The voters came out. As one journalist noted, perhaps the repubs will learn that picking your candidates out of the Star Wars cantina wasn't the best move.

[Sparktrader]

12 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

DeSantis is a Trumpist with a slicker presentation.

Then he wins in 2024. By bye Wokes.

[Sparktrader]

4 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

2000 years ago Rome fell to the Visigoths. In the US in these midterms, the barbarians were at the gates, but they were held off. Democracy seems to have survived. Most of the election deniers endorsed by 45 have had to run to their safespace as losers like 45, while 45's supposed upcoming announcement of his candidacy in 2024 will have all the impact of the comet Kahoutek or Y2K.

 

Biden made the right move, noting in his pre-election speeches the threat to the future of democracy and freedom represented by fascists and election deniers. That resonated. The voters came out. As one journalist noted, perhaps the repubs will learn that picking your candidates out of the Star Wars cantina wasn't the best move.

Bell curve. I see where you are.

[ThailandRyan]

7 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Trump did try to cheat? i never read about that. Strange.

So Trumps claims that the election was stolen, and he tried to stop the electors in a few states from counting votes, as well as his trying to stop Pence and the July 6th capitol riot to block the certificatio  of the vote are all lies in your view...well well looks like someone has been drinking the Orange kool-aid.  

[Walker88]

15 minutes ago, nauseus said:

More nonsense. 

But of course you cannot refute it.

 

The National Debt jumped $7,000,000,000,000, or 37% under profligate 45. 45 took over in 2017. Covid did not hit until March 2020, 45's last year.

 

"It'll disappear, like magic, by Easter".  Yea, 45, and Dewey beats Truman.

 

45 was an abject disaster. He now seems to be on his political deathbed. He lost the House, Senate and White House for repubs in 2020, and the supposed Red Wave was more the Red Tide....and the tide went out. 45's endorsement is worth as much as last week's losing lottery ticket.

 

repubs are slow to learn, but they may well have finally accepted that 45 is not their future.

 

Even the right wing NY Post has moved on from 45, with today's headline: DeFuture.

 

It would be appropriate for 45 to announce his candidacy at Four Seasons Landscaping, like where Nesferatu Ghouliani held his silly presser to talk about Hugo Chavez' ghost rigging electronic voting machines or traces of bamboo from China found in mail in ballots.

 

 

[Walker88]

5 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Then he wins in 2024. By bye Wokes.

It has occurred to me you know precious little about the US.

 

"Wokes" are a tiny minority. They wield no power. They make for good press and are overused by the fascist right, but as this election has shown, most people are mature enough and knowledgeable enough to ignore them and look at the bigger picture.

 

I think there must be a Woke Derangement Syndrome from which many right wingers suffer. They are obsessed with it, when it's such a minor and meaningless thing, kind of like Flat Earthers. For well adjusted people, it's amusing, but not to be taken seriously.

[Berkshire]

37 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

I disagree. DeSantis just proved his bona fides last night. A huge margin of victory, great support amongst Latino voters, and sensible policies.  By the next primary, Trump will have little to show for the past 3 years, if he even gets that far. 

 

The last straw might be if Trump announces his intention to run next week. There is a very good chance that might just torpedo Herschel Walker in the Senate runoff and throw the senate back to the Dems.  If that happens, even the most hardcore Mega Maga might mosey.

I actually agree with you for the most part.  But DeSantis needs Trump's base.  If Trump were to gracefully bow out, anoint DeSantis as his legitimate successor, and give him his full blessing....whole new ballgame.  DeSantis would be formidable.  But what are the odds of that happening?  Maybe in a parallel universe. 

[sqwakvfr]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Can't be honest and objective based on comparison. Either one is or one isn't. You may prefer his viewpoint to the others, but that doesn't make him any more of either than them. I get that you hate Trump, but that doesn't mean Bret is better or worse than them.

Anyway, Trump is probably over, so what's the point of going on about him any more?

“I hate Trump”?  So you know me and my political viewpoints?  I do not know who or what you are.  Nor do I care to know.  

[Phoenix Rising]

3 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

I actually agree with you for the most part.  But DeSantis needs Trump's base.  If Trump were to gracefully bow out, anoint DeSantis as his legitimate successor, and give him his full blessing....whole new ballgame.  DeSantis would be formidable.  But what are the odds of that happening?  Maybe in a parallel universe. 

I  think trump gracefully bowing out of anything won't happen anywhere even if there were an infinite amount of parallel universes.

[Hanaguma]

5 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

I actually agree with you for the most part.  But DeSantis needs Trump's base.  If Trump were to gracefully bow out, anoint DeSantis as his legitimate successor, and give him his full blessing....whole new ballgame.  DeSantis would be formidable.  But what are the odds of that happening?  Maybe in a parallel universe. 

With the way the mid terms went, perhaps a "Trump annointment" is not exactly a great thing to get.  Big Ron might be better off to appear as the rebel or pirate and earn the support that way.

[sqwakvfr]

2 hours ago, bendejo said:

Baer likes to depict himself as one who does not drink the Fox kool-aid (in not as many words), and yeah, he may not be a screaming nutter but don't lose sight of what team he's on.  There is plenty of leaning rightward in his reporting. 

 

 

He has to carry the Fox Corp mantle.  Otherwise he would not be employed.  

[Sparktrader]

15 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

It has occurred to me you know precious little about the US.

 

"Wokes" are a tiny minority. They wield no power. They make for good press and are overused by the fascist right, but as this election has shown, most people are mature enough and knowledgeable enough to ignore them and look at the bigger picture.

 

I think there must be a Woke Derangement Syndrome from which many right wingers suffer. They are obsessed with it, when it's such a minor and meaningless thing, kind of like Flat Earthers. For well adjusted people, it's amusing, but not to be taken seriously.

Fascism is left wing.

[Fat is a type of crazy]

Based on the small sample of Republican voters here it looks like they are ready to dump Trump and go all in on De Santis.  My guess is the democrats will retain the senate with Arizona looking good and I think the more scrutiny of Herschell Walker the better for the Democrats - both morally and intellectually. He's the perfect example of a dud candidate and if I was a Republican I would be embarrassed that he was picked to represent my interests. 

[Sparktrader]

17 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

but as this election has shown, most people are mature enough and knowledgeable enough to ignore them and look at the bigger picture.

Pubs ahead in both houses atm. Wokes are nervous.

[Chomper Higgot]

4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

And therein lies the problem.

 

Parties (on both sides!) should select candidates that can run the country effectively, not simply 'beat the other side'. That's how you end up with a president who is barely in control of his own cognitive functions.

 

It's a sad state of affairs when politicians (and their fanatical supporters) care only about retaining power and beating/belittling the opposition, and little for the state of the nation.

Nonsense, Biden is running the country , he’s selected a good team and trey are on the job.

 

No cozying  up to America’s enemies, no funneling money to his own businesses, no hate bating, no milking the wallets of his supporters, no extorting America’s allies, no mocking the disabled, no spreading dangerous misinformation, no aiding and abetting a deadly virus, no inciting insurrection.

 

Just doing the job, halving the deficit, getting America back to work again and returning America to its rightful position on the world stage.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

So why quote me?

Because I was responding to the point you made.

[Sparktrader]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Biden is running the country ,

Not running anything. All speeches scripted still blunders. Gets told what to say and do. He is just the front for the woke power players.

[Sparktrader]

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Not running anything. All speeches scripted still blunders. Gets told what to say and do. He is just the front for the woke power players.

Yeh Yeh.

 

Tell is again how the Republicans were going to wipe the Democrats out at the mid terms.

 

Tell us all your negative views of Biden and the Democrats, then explain how it is the Republicans failed to deliver on your predictions.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

42 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Then he wins in 2024. By bye Wokes.

I’m still laughing at your failed predictions for these mid terms, and here you are making predictions for 2024.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

21 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

With the way the mid terms went, perhaps a "Trump annointment" is not exactly a great thing to get.  Big Ron might be better off to appear as the rebel or pirate and earn the support that way.

Who knew?!

[Fat is a type of crazy]

10 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Good result for Biden? Not yet.

 

They need to bring out the hidden bags held out back.

If you don't like reality turn to fantasy.