1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Not being subject to Brussels is worth it.

We had to implement 3% of EU regulation against our will. Similar to Germany.

 

The price that we paid is not worth it.

24 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

 i would say most sensible people knew Brexit wasn't going be easy

I would say that most sensible people realised that you couldn't have the benefits of belonging to the world's biggest trading bloc without the accompanying obligations and responsibilities.

 

24 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

 because the EU weren't ganna make so we're they for obvious reasons

Always someone else's fault. The EU did what it felt necessary to protect its' members' interests.

 

Anyway, why didn't the UK government(s) plan for the worse-case scenario given that it appears to be common knowledge how badly the EU was likely to behave?

 

24 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

 and with covid pandemic, followed by a war what do people expect.

Where is the plan for implementing these Brexit benefits?

4 hours ago, hotchilli said:

So why are so many Germans leaving he country if it's so great?

Because they're looking for a place in the sun, isn't that quite obvious?

9 hours ago, nauseus said:

British industry started to disappear well before Thatcher .

It was Saint Margaret's policy to not support British industry and to turn Britain into a 'services-based' economy, that's well known.

Part of the problem with British industry was an us & them mentality. I worked there for about 10 years.

Brexit plus Callous inept elitist Public school controlled Conservative party 12 year austerity and other bad policies who have been in power too long.

 

...........And of course the sheep; the dumb-a r s e d media controlled suckers who keep voting for them.

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I wasn't asking about the uks production. 

 

 

All the wokes on this thread must surely have invested in electricity generation...... Or is it all just talk? 

I guess somebody living in a Condo with no opportunity to install solar cells to power their unit must be denied an opinion on the matter because you think they haven’t walked the walk.

Regardless of who it is installing solar energy systems, solar energy is firmly part of global power provisions now and into the future.

 

Luddites don’t seem able to grasp that reality.

 

 

1 hour ago, Eleftheros said:

It sank without trace, so to speak.

 

It proved to be another nice-sounding scheme which failed to work in practice, the hallmark of the vast majority of Green fantasy projects.

 

The narrative then shifted to the unproven "tidal stream power", which will probably go the same way. Unsurprisingly, the UK government is now throwing millions of pounds into backing this notion. I would be delighted if they could make these ideas work, but the track record is very discouraging.

 

Of course, the one proven technology the UK could use to alleviate its energy problems -- fracking -- is the only one the government has ruled out. It was the first thing that the new PM did on assuming office.

And yet renewables are a growing part of global energy provision.

 

Some ideas fail, others succeed, was it ever thus.

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Surely your reliance on the government to provide everything is looking back. The way forward is for everyone with the resources to provide for themselves. 

Don’t forget to take your own road with you when you go for a drive.

15 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

It was Saint Margaret's policy to not support British industry and to turn Britain into a 'services-based' economy, that's well known.

Part of the problem with British industry was an us & them mentality. I worked there for about 10 years.

Trouble with British industry has always been management.

43 minutes ago, RayC said:

I would say that most sensible people realised that you couldn't have the benefits of belonging to the world's biggest trading bloc without the accompanying obligations and responsibilities.

 

Always someone else's fault. The EU did what it felt necessary to protect its' members' interests.

 

Anyway, why didn't the UK government(s) plan for the worse-case scenario given that it appears to be common knowledge how badly the EU was likely to behave?

 

Where is the plan for implementing these Brexit benefits?

Typical response what's needed is for Uk people to deal with all the problems and get on with instead of moaning.

3 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Typical response what's needed is for Uk people to deal with all the problems and get on with instead of moaning.

In order for the UK people to deal with all the problems, they would first need a revolution and the death of all those currently at the top, MPs, the aristocracy,  lawyers, judges, landowners, estate agents, bankers, financiers ....... I'm sure I missed lots off my list.

Pretty obvious, really. When you cut off your nose to spite your face it hurts. The leavers blatantly put the issue of immigration and race ahead of economic prosperity. I don't think the jury is out on that anymore. The UK is leas dependent on Russian energy than EU countries and yet has fared far worse so it's got nothing to do with Russia.

15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Don’t forget to take your own road with you when you go for a drive.

I wish I'd thought of that.

On 11/12/2022 at 11:23 AM, jaideedave said:

Hi BMT, Add in a buffoon like Turdo and the sheeple that vote for him..Off subject: I last grew a blueberry auto using coco(same vendor) and EWC/Wesco only as per your advice..it was the best producer so far for me..62 grams dry. Organic was a disaster for me. This method is far better for me.   Tnx

Thats the problem with getting 'stoned' or whatever the term for getting high is these days, everyone drifts off on their own train of thought tangent using a language that no-one else understands.....555.

22 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And yet renewables are a growing part of global energy provision.

 

Some ideas fail, others succeed, was it ever thus.

Yes, that's always how it goes, with the rider that the UK government only seems to invest millions of pounds of taxpayer money in those that fail and ignores (or even bans) those that succeed, whichever political party is in place.

 

Add in the ruinous Climate Change Levy, Feed-In Tariffs, Green Gas Levy, Contracts for Difference, Renewables Obligation and the rest, and it's a wonder that the UK isn't doing worse than it is....

6 minutes ago, Eleftheros said:

Yes, that's always how it goes, with the rider that the UK government only seems to invest millions of pounds of taxpayer money in those that fail and ignores (or even bans) those that succeed, whichever political party is in place.

 

Add in the ruinous Climate Change Levy, Feed-In Tariffs, Green Gas Levy, Contracts for Difference, Renewables Obligation and the rest, and it's a wonder that the UK isn't doing worse than it is....

But other countries are doing similar things and they aren't circling the drain. The economic cost of doing nothing is going to make people wish we had spent more when we had the chance. It's already probably too late because of climate denialism funded by Big Pollution.

42 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

The leavers blatantly put the issue of immigration and race ahead of economic prosperity

That is not true , completely false .

It was nothing to do with race 

1 hour ago, Andrew65 said:

Because they're looking for a place in the sun, isn't that quite obvious?

Follow the beach towels like we did in the past.

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

That is not true , completely false .

It was nothing to do with race 

No rational excuse has ever been ventured by the leavers which wasn't proved wrong by the outcome. Like the economy.

3 hours ago, placeholder said:

Define "so many". And how does current emigration compare to past emigration?

In balance the same as immigration has increased under the Merkel regime of allowing half or Europe to enter.

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

No rational excuse has ever been ventured by the leavers which wasn't proved wrong by the outcome. Like the economy.

As you are laughing at my replies, I will no longer talk to you .

Learn some decorum .

  Also take into consideration that laughing at other peoples posts is considered to be trolling 

2 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

In balance the same as immigration has increased under the Merkel regime of allowing half or Europe to enter.

That's demonstrably false since the population of Germany at the beginning of 2015 was 80.98 million and at the end of 2021 was 83.13 million

5 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

As you are laughing at my replies, I will no longer talk to you .

Learn some decorum .

  Also take into consideration that laughing at other peoples posts is considered to be trolling 

Your denial that race had anything to do with Brexit caused me to actually laugh. Case in point is UKIP, rabidly racist and pro Brexit

34 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

But other countries are doing similar things and they aren't circling the drain. The economic cost of doing nothing is going to make people wish we had spent more when we had the chance. It's already probably too late because of climate denialism funded by Big Pollution.

Because the UK is doing them worse,  that is, without any competence, character, responsibility, or sense of reality.

 

In passing, it strikes me as odd that so many people pour bile onto 'Big Pollution' (and Big Tobacco and Big Armaments) for their lies and influence peddling,  yet seem to regard Big Pharma as a noble benefactor of humanity with impeccable ethics.

 

 

1 minute ago, Eleftheros said:

Because the UK is doing them worse,  that is, without any competence, character, responsibility, or sense of reality.

 

In passing, it strikes me as odd that so many people pour bile onto 'Big Pollution' (and Big Tobacco and Big Armaments) for their lies and influence peddling,  yet seem to regard Big Pharma as a noble benefactor of humanity with impeccable ethics.

Nobody is singling the praises of Big Pharma. Nobody. We do need their products but that's a different issue.

18 minutes ago, Eleftheros said:

Because the UK is doing them worse,  that is, without any competence, character, responsibility, or sense of reality.

 

In passing, it strikes me as odd that so many people pour bile onto 'Big Pollution' (and Big Tobacco and Big Armaments) for their lies and influence peddling,  yet seem to regard Big Pharma as a noble benefactor of humanity with impeccable ethics.

 

 

What planet do you come from where Big Pharma is regarded as a noble benefactor?

1 hour ago, Eleftheros said:

Yes, that's always how it goes, with the rider that the UK government only seems to invest millions of pounds of taxpayer money in those that fail and ignores (or even bans) those that succeed, whichever political party is in place.

 

Add in the ruinous Climate Change Levy, Feed-In Tariffs, Green Gas Levy, Contracts for Difference, Renewables Obligation and the rest, and it's a wonder that the UK isn't doing worse than it is....

I’ve got an idea for a hot air driven electricity generator.

25 minutes ago, Eleftheros said:

Because the UK is doing them worse,  that is, without any competence, character, responsibility, or sense of reality.

 

In passing, it strikes me as odd that so many people pour bile onto 'Big Pollution' (and Big Tobacco and Big Armaments) for their lies and influence peddling,  yet seem to regard Big Pharma as a noble benefactor of humanity with impeccable ethics.

 

 

Can you back up this startling assertion?

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ve got an idea for a hot air driven electricity generator.

Just ask the UK government for 20 million pounds in start-up funding, then.

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ve got an idea for a hot air driven electricity generator.

You might be right. CFD has nothing to do with politics and has been used as a financial trading tool since forever.