snoop1130 Posted November 24, 2022 Posted November 24, 2022 PHOTO: TMN Cable TV Pattaya A 24-year-old food delivery rider passed away in a horrific collision reportedly with a truck on Wednesday, November 23rd. The accident took place in front of the Bangkok Komatsu Company in the Khlong Tamru subdistrict of Chonburi’s Mueang district. Chonburi rescuers responded to the accident around noon after receiving a call from the victim’s fellow workers. The victim, identified as Mr. Tawan Pinsuwan, 24, lay lifelessly on the road with serious head injuries. The rescuers pronounced him dead at the scene before transporting his body to a local hospital. Full Story: https://thepattayanews.com/2022/11/24/24-year-old-food-delivery-rider-reportedly-crushed-to-death-by-truck-in-chonburi/ -- © Copyright The Pattaya News 2022-11-24 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Monthly car subscription with first-class insurance, 24x7 assistance and more in one price - click here to find out more! 1
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted November 24, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 24, 2022 16 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: Full Story: https://thepattayanews.com/2022/11/24/24-year-old-food-delivery-rider-reportedly-crushed-to-death-by-truck-in-chonburi/ [though the victim was reported to be wearing a motorcycle helmet, which, according to the rescuers, had been crushed before they arrived.] Gruesome... but those plastic helmets are pretty much useless except... Tests show that ’some’ decent helmets to protect, but that also depends on how heavy the truck is - but I’m not sure I can see Grab riders paying 10k baht for a good helmet. Very unlucky to fall directly under the wheels a truck - but we’ve seen it time and time again and it will continue to happen with very large vehicles and lots of motorcycles sharing the road while untrained on safety... I feel sorry for the poor lads family, hope he didn’t have any children etc.. . 2 3 1
Gottfrid Posted November 24, 2022 Posted November 24, 2022 1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said: Very unlucky to fall directly under the wheels a truck - but we’ve seen it time and time again and it will continue to happen with very large vehicles and lots of motorcycles sharing the road while untrained on safety... Darn! You must be a very unlucky guy. Time and time again. In reality, how many heads have you actually seen getting crushed under a big truck?
aussienam Posted November 24, 2022 Posted November 24, 2022 The truck driver claims it wasn't his truck that crushed the rider and it was another vehicle that left the scene. The report mentions police examining CCTV. As this is a serious fatal incident, I really do hope that there is a proper trained crash investigation unit that will conduct forensic examinations of the scene of the crash. Check for tyre impressions on deceased and equipment. The truck should be hoisted and taken to a secure yard to check the whole underneath, wheels, etc. The bike, helmet and body as well. 2
Popular Post Aussieroaming Posted November 24, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 24, 2022 The food delivery riders should be banned from the roads until they abide by road rules (which will never happen). Having said that, HV's are no better and neither are vehicle drivers. RIP to the person. 3
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted November 25, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 25, 2022 Family will mourn. Uncaring and uninterested Thai government will just add a +1 to a statistics column 1 2
Popular Post Bangkok Barry Posted November 25, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 25, 2022 3 hours ago, aussienam said: The truck driver claims it wasn't his truck that crushed the rider and it was another vehicle that left the scene. The report mentions police examining CCTV. As this is a serious fatal incident, I really do hope that there is a proper trained crash investigation unit that will conduct forensic examinations of the scene of the crash. Check for tyre impressions on deceased and equipment. The truck should be hoisted and taken to a secure yard to check the whole underneath, wheels, etc. The bike, helmet and body as well. If you expect that you should really be living in another country. The Thai mentality is that the person is dead, nothing can be done about that, move on. Nothing to be gained by a lot of effort to find out why. And that is why Thailand is decades behind in so many things. 9
roo860 Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 4 hours ago, aussienam said: The truck driver claims it wasn't his truck that crushed the rider and it was another vehicle that left the scene. The report mentions police examining CCTV. As this is a serious fatal incident, I really do hope that there is a proper trained crash investigation unit that will conduct forensic examinations of the scene of the crash. Check for tyre impressions on deceased and equipment. The truck should be hoisted and taken to a secure yard to check the whole underneath, wheels, etc. The bike, helmet and body as well. And pigs might fly. 1
Popular Post FolkGuitar Posted November 25, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 25, 2022 Sad when a such a young person dies on the roads, but not unexpected. In fact, I'm surprised we don't see more injured food delivery riders, based on the way they seem to need to cut inside of turning vehicles, weave in and out of traffic at high speeds, and make right turns from the left-hand lane. These riders are trying to make a living, but often doing it at the expense of the safety of others on the roads. In this case, the rider paid his own way. R.I.P. 3 3
Popular Post Confuscious Posted November 25, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 25, 2022 The food delivery company should be made to pay all the damages. This way they may learn to hire ONLY delivery drivers who abide the traffic laws and not the cowboy drivers who makes the traffic a hell for everybody. I know that these drivers are trying to make a living, but this should not be at the risk of other road users. 3
hotchilli Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 16 hours ago, Gottfrid said: Darn! You must be a very unlucky guy. Time and time again. In reality, how many heads have you actually seen getting crushed under a big truck? None thankfully. 2
richard_smith237 Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 17 hours ago, Gottfrid said: 18 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: Very unlucky to fall directly under the wheels a truck - but we’ve seen it time and time again and it will continue to happen with very large vehicles and lots of motorcycles sharing the road while untrained on safety... Darn! You must be a very unlucky guy. As usual - in a rush to contradict you let your foot slip off the clutch too quickly and didn’t think about your comment.... .. my luck, or absence of, has nothing to do with reading reports of others getting hurt or killed on their motorcycles... 17 hours ago, Gottfrid said: Time and time again. In reality, how many heads have you actually seen getting crushed under a big truck? On this forum alone.... at 4 or so per year... Maybe ‘time and time again’ is phraseology you are un-familiar with - it means we’ve seen this plenty of times before... certainly in far more elevated numbers than we are used to in our home countries. There is also a Facebook group called ‘dangerous driving Thailand’ in which we see far more reports of accidents etc than we get on this forum.... a lot of those can be quite gory - motorcyclists getting caught under trucks.... 1
richard_smith237 Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 5 hours ago, FolkGuitar said: Sad when a such a young person dies on the roads, but not unexpected. In fact, I'm surprised we don't see more injured food delivery riders, based on the way they seem to need to cut inside of turning vehicles, weave in and out of traffic at high speeds, and make right turns from the left-hand lane. These riders are trying to make a living, but often doing it at the expense of the safety of others on the roads. In this case, the rider paid his own way. R.I.P. It's many motorcyclists in general who ride like this..... its just that the ‘many delivery riders’ with a big green box on the back of their bike are more identifiable and visible doing this...
PJ71 Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: On this forum alone.... at 4 or so per year... Would you consider that a high % based on the number of motorcycles driven in this country? or a low %?
Gottfrid Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 39 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: As usual - in a rush to contradict you let your foot slip off the clutch too quickly and didn’t think about your comment.... .. my luck, or absence of, has nothing to do with reading reports of others getting hurt or killed on their motorcycles... On this forum alone.... at 4 or so per year... Maybe ‘time and time again’ is phraseology you are un-familiar with - it means we’ve seen this plenty of times before... certainly in far more elevated numbers than we are used to in our home countries. There is also a Facebook group called ‘dangerous driving Thailand’ in which we see far more reports of accidents etc than we get on this forum.... a lot of those can be quite gory - motorcyclists getting caught under trucks.... Ok, you meant you read about it many times, but wrote seen it. Maybe you should connect the clutch, instead of dealing with others transmission of understanding what you wrote. ???? 2
Gottfrid Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, hotchilli said: None thankfully. No, not he too. he wrote wrong. ????
KannikaP Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 6 hours ago, Aussieroaming said: and neither are vehicle drivers What? All of us!
richard_smith237 Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 55 minutes ago, PJ71 said: Would you consider that a high % based on the number of motorcycles driven in this country? or a low %? Interesting question.... clearly the high numbers of road accidents in Thailand are a result of the high numbers of motorcyclists in Thailand... We’d need to work out the number of motorcyclists and number of motorcycle KM’s ridden... and then incidents of ‘crushed head’ per motorcycle KM’s ridden to secure and accurate statistic. Thats going to be pretty difficult to achieve... So, all I have to go by is this ‘crushed by a truck’ news is not wholly uncommon in Thailand... I’d hazard a guess and suggest that this incidence occurs proportionately more in thailand than it does in the developed nations with safer roads, better rider training etc... but when getting down to specific gory incidents such as this its difficult to prove without factual data. I’m sure it also happens elsewhere - but it seems to happen a lot here as a high or low % compared to other area’s - thats too difficult to tell with any accuracy.
richard_smith237 Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 26 minutes ago, Gottfrid said: Ok, you meant you read about it many times, but wrote seen it. Maybe you should connect the clutch, instead of dealing with others transmission of understanding what you wrote. ???? You have taken the comment literally, thats OK, its an understandable mistake as english is not your first language... but try not to be cute... you’re too far off the mark and not sharp enough. Observed on / in the news... read in the news... = 'we’ve seen’.... We’ve seen Harry Kane score 26 premier league goals last season... it doesnt mean I’ve seen each individual goal in person....
PJ71 Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said: I’d hazard a guess and suggest that this incidence occurs proportionately more in thailand than it does in the developed nations with safer roads But most developed countries do not have the most common mode of transport as motorbikes, i think that comparison would not be accurate.
PJ71 Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said: We’ve seen Harry Kane score 26 premier league goals last season How did you manage that, he only scored 17. As much as you like to think so Richard, you can't be right and know everything all of the time.
richard_smith237 Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, PJ71 said: 1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said: I’d hazard a guess and suggest that this incidence occurs proportionately more in thailand than it does in the developed nations with safer roads But most developed countries do not have the most common mode of transport as motorbikes, i think that comparison would not be accurate. Agreed... its a difficult one to call and can only be measured by a comparison of ‘motorcycle KMs’ ridden per-accident... For example: UK 2020 Cars were driven 209.6 Billion vehicle miles - There were 669 deaths in cars. Motorcyclists rode 2.5252 Billion vehicle miles - There were 291 deaths on motorcycles. Cars - 313.303 Million Miles per death Motorcycles - 8.64 Million Miles per death Motorcycles 36x more deadly than cars in the UK... But if you ride 10,000 miles per year you’d need to ride 863 years before facing death (statistically that is). ------------- Thailand doesnt seem to collect stats at this detail - it would be an interesting comparison to draw. How many deadly accidents per motorcycle mile / KM are there in Thailand ?? It would also be worth comparing for cars too...
richard_smith237 Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, PJ71 said: 1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said: We’ve seen Harry Kane score 26 premier league goals last season How did you manage that, he only scored 17. As much as you like to think so Richard, you can't be right and know everything all of the time. Was just a guess... I think in your eagerness to argue the comment you missed the point of the comment....
Gottfrid Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said: You have taken the comment literally, thats OK, its an understandable mistake as english is not your first language... but try not to be cute... you’re too far off the mark and not sharp enough. Observed on / in the news... read in the news... = 'we’ve seen’.... We’ve seen Harry Kane score 26 premier league goals last season... it doesnt mean I’ve seen each individual goal in person.... No, it doesn´t mean that, because you changed to, We, instead of I. That was your way to in a cute way trying to put your mistake under the rug. Beeep! Wrong Try! Looks like you totally missed the mark, and then about the sharp thing, I just don´t know. ????
richard_smith237 Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 33 minutes ago, Gottfrid said: No, it doesn´t mean that, because you changed to, We, instead of I. That was your way to in a cute way trying to put your mistake under the rug. Beeep! Wrong Try! No.. I used ‘we’ in the original comment you failed to understand. Thus, its best you don’t go down that road and argue the meaning of ’seen’ in this context... because you clearly do not understand. ‘We’ve seen it time and time again’ - means its happened time and time again... IF you don’t understand that context, thats on you, your misunderstanding for missing the nuance of the language used and taking the phrase very literally... I’ve no issues with anyone misunderstanding because English is nuanced and complicated - I’m happy to explain... but, if you want to argue the meaning of the language I have used you are doing so from a position of misunderstanding - its ok to accept you made a mistake and jump to the wrong conclusion in your haste to throw criticism... 21 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: Very unlucky to fall directly under the wheels a truck - but we’ve seen it time and time again and it will continue to happen with very large vehicles and lots of motorcycles sharing the road while untrained on safety...
PJ71 Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said: Thailand doesnt seem to collect stats at this detail - it would be an interesting comparison to draw. It would be an amazing comparison.
PJ71 Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said: Was just a guess... I think in your eagerness to argue the comment you missed the point of the comment.... I know exactly the point i'm making.
Gottfrid Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: No.. I used ‘we’ in the original comment you failed to understand. Thus, its best you don’t go down that road and argue the meaning of ’seen’ in this context... because you clearly do not understand. ‘We’ve seen it time and time again’ - means its happened time and time again... IF you don’t understand that context, thats on you, your misunderstanding for missing the nuance of the language used and taking the phrase very literally... I’ve no issues with anyone misunderstanding because English is nuanced and complicated - I’m happy to explain... but, if you want to argue the meaning of the language I have used you are doing so from a position of misunderstanding - its ok to accept you made a mistake and jump to the wrong conclusion in your haste to throw criticism... Doesn´t matter as you haven´t seen it and only read about it. Go have you tutoring explanation with someone else. The only thing that is nuanced and complicated is to read your replies. You know that´s a Brit thing, right?
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now