Tesla in Thaiand

[Nepal4me]

Tesla received 5,000 orders in the first 3 days (if media reports are to be believed).

 

I looked at the pricing.  From 1.6m bt to 2.5m bt.  The lower end is Camry price range.  This should sell like hotcakes in Thailand.

 

Anybody know if plans for superchargers up and down the country?

[dj230]

i remember reading tesla getting into the thai market, i agree it'll sell well, probably end up taking over the other ev's

maybe in 5-10 years there will be enough chargers for ev's to be practical for everyone

[KhunLA]

"Anybody know if plans for superchargers up and down the country?"

 

Yes, plans already been reported. 

"Tesla will also be opening its first supercharger by Q1 of 2023"

https://www.prestigeonline.com/th/pursuits/motors/tesla-has-officially-launched-in-thailand/

 

Nice addition to all the under used Charging Stations now.  Hopefully Tesla will encourage more to shop for EVs.  1.6 mill may be a stretch for some, but luckily a few priced less than 1 million baht already.  With more available next year.

 

Maybe in a few years, there will actually be enough EVs on the road to actually start using all the empty Charging Stations available now.  Not that I'm in a hurry to have that happen.

 

We did a few short trip and used about 7 CSs already, and yet to see another vehicle at them.  Quite the pleasant experience and by the time we're done stretching our legs, lite munch and a look around, the car is topped up.

 

Not much difference time wise when out & about with the ICEs before having the EV.  The short breaks are nice when on the road.

Edited December 14, 2022 by KhunLA

[digbeth]

the current DC fast charger along the highways by all providers in Thailand is 1 per spot, this has lead to queues and fighting at the charger, which will only get worse during the Holidays and as more EVs get delivered

 

If Tesla show up with their supercharger with 5-10 spot, it'll be a game changer 

[RayWright]

3 hours ago, KhunLA said:

"Anybody know if plans for superchargers up and down the country?"

 

I believe Musky has that covered:-

[OneMoreFarang]

6 hours ago, digbeth said:

the current DC fast charger along the highways by all providers in Thailand is 1 per spot, this has lead to queues and fighting at the charger, which will only get worse during the Holidays and as more EVs get delivered

 

If Tesla show up with their supercharger with 5-10 spot, it'll be a game changer 

Or in other words: They have to come with lots of chargers. Otherwise there will be a lot of unhappy owners.

[macahoom]

6 hours ago, digbeth said:

the current DC fast charger along the highways by all providers in Thailand is 1 per spot, this has lead to queues and fighting at the charger,

Ha! What a load of old codswallop, made-up nonsense.

 

I have charged at countless DC chargers in Thailand. I have only once had to wait (for 10 minutes) for someone else to finish charging.

 

I have never seen a queue. 

 

And as for "fighting at the charger": You're a funny guy!

 

P.S. There are plenty of stations with two separate chargers. 

Edited December 15, 2022 by macahoom

[phetphet]

Tesla had a stand in Siam Paragon last week. It was packed, with Thais and their families all getting in the display models to try them out.

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, macahoom said:

Ha! What a load of old codswallop, made-up nonsense.

 

P.S. There are plenty of stations with two separate chargers. 

That's why he/she/it is on my ignore list ...

... EV troll ... ????

 

That's just sad ????

[kwak250]

For now I would still prefer the camry but maybe in a few years we won't have a choice.

Saying that I am looking at buying an electric scooter for the mil.

[KhunLA]

45 minutes ago, kwak250 said:

Saying that I am looking at buying an electric scooter for the mil.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1183238-electric-motorbike-any-opinions/page/2/#comment-17784792

 

[unheard]

4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Or in other words: They have to come with lots of chargers. Otherwise there will be a lot of unhappy owners.

They would also have to come with lots of extra electricity and the grid that will be able to handle the added load.

Otherwise there'll be even more of unhappy owners.

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, unheard said:

They would also have to come with lots of extra electricity and the grid that will be able to handle the added load.

Otherwise there'll be even more of unhappy owners.

Don't worry, in Bangkok the electricity comes out of those sockets in the walls.

As far as I know they have them all over Thailand, even up country. ????

 

 

[Nepal4me]

9 hours ago, kwak250 said:

For now I would still prefer the camry but maybe in a few years we won't have a choice.

Saying that I am looking at buying an electric scooter for the mil.

You prefer a Camry to a Tesla???

 

I'm guessing you've never driven a Tesla.  They make gas cars look like a Nokia flip.  

[OneMoreFarang]

2 hours ago, Nepal4me said:

You prefer a Camry to a Tesla???

 

I'm guessing you've never driven a Tesla.  They make gas cars look like a Nokia flip.  

I remember the battery on those Nokia phones was good for several days. And the batteries could easily be replaceable with a spare battery by the user. I am sure lots of users would be delighted to have those features on modern phones...

Tesla cars are not bad. But they are far away from perfect and they and other EVs have lots of bad properties.

[DavisH]

19 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I remember the battery on those Nokia phones was good for several days. And the batteries could easily be replaceable with a spare battery by the user. I am sure lots of users would be delighted to have those features on modern phones...

Tesla cars are not bad. But they are far away from perfect and they and other EVs have lots of bad properties.

US tesla reliability is poor. Hopefully Chinese made ones are better. Toyota destroys tesla for reliability. 

 

[kwak250]

4 hours ago, Nepal4me said:

You prefer a Camry to a Tesla???

 

I'm guessing you've never driven a Tesla.  They make gas cars look like a Nokia flip.  

Love the Nokia flip as well

 

Never driven a Tesla but then I thought they drove you ?

Edited December 15, 2022 by kwak250

[kwak250]

4 hours ago, Nepal4me said:

You prefer a Camry to a Tesla???

 

I'm guessing you've never driven a Tesla.  They make gas cars look like a Nokia flip.  

Love the Nokia flip as well

 

Never driven a Tesla but then I thought they drove you ?

Edited December 15, 2022 by kwak250

[Nepal4me]

4 hours ago, kwak250 said:

Love the Nokia flip as well

 

Sure in the day Nokia was great.  But that day is gone.  Nokia tech is yesterday.  BEV are doing to ICE what Apple did to Nokia.

 

I've driven a 2021 Model S Plaid.  0-60 in 2 seconds.  Unreal.

[Nepal4me]

6 hours ago, DavisH said:

US tesla reliability is poor. Hopefully Chinese made ones are better. Toyota destroys tesla for reliability. 

 

Tesla has upped their quality and reliability.  They are as good as anybody now.  Chinese cars are still poor quality today.

[KhunLA]

8 hours ago, DavisH said:

US tesla reliability is poor. Hopefully Chinese made ones are better. Toyota destroys tesla for reliability. 

 

Toyota ... having a problem simply keeping the wheels on their EVs.

 

Subaru should have picked SAIC to make their EVs.

[kwak250]

2 hours ago, Nepal4me said:

 

I've driven a 2021 Model S Plaid.  0-60 in 2 seconds.  Unreal.

Comparing Tesla 0-60 times to real performance cars is like comparing a microwave to a bbq grill.

It may cook faster but nobody ever wished for a microwaved burger ???? 

[Lacessit]

22 hours ago, KhunLA said:

That's why he/she/it is on my ignore list ...

... EV troll ... ????

 

That's just sad ????

Teslas have had all kinds of quality issues.

 

When it gets to posters putting other posters on ignore because they are stating unpalatable facts about EV's, it becomes fanaticism.

 

Damn right it's sad.

[KhunLA]

10 minutes ago, kwak250 said:

Comparing Tesla 0-60 times to real performance cars is like comparing a microwave to a bbq grill.

It may cook faster but nobody ever wished for a microwaved burger ???? 

I would hope we're all adults by this point in time. 

 

Maybe 0-60 mph impresses teenagers, but if I can not spend a half million baht extra by taking 9 seconds to get to 100 kph, instead of less the 4 seconds, which I don't need to do or be at ... then I'm pretty damn happy about that.

 

That extra half million baht could pay for say ... a solar system larger than we need, and an electric scooter to play with when it's not rainy ... hmm.

 

Then that would be like free electric for house & EV, with never needing to use PEA ... 

... you kids play with fast cars, I'll spend the extra pocket money we have doing other things we enjoy ????

 

Economics 101 .... finance yourself to the grave, or retire early 

[DavisH]

3 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Toyota ... having a problem simply keeping the wheels on their EVs.

 

Subaru should have picked SAIC to make their EVs.

Keep dreaming ...lol Tesla is at the bottom. 

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-placed-bottom-consumer-reports-reliability-rankings/?utm_campaign=gs-2020-11-23&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign&gclid=Cj0KCQiAqOucBhDrARIsAPCQL1aUOdiHiuHqcPHfjb-Ik-LX2fgtBpESZIQZUz36RN-etIXIgMs4rFMaArrTEALw_wcB

[KhunLA]

16 minutes ago, DavisH said:

Keep dreaming ...lol Tesla is at the bottom. 

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-placed-bottom-consumer-reports-reliability-rankings/?utm_campaign=gs-2020-11-23&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign&gclid=Cj0KCQiAqOucBhDrARIsAPCQL1aUOdiHiuHqcPHfjb-Ik-LX2fgtBpESZIQZUz36RN-etIXIgMs4rFMaArrTEALw_wcB

Also consider CR is a USA based mag, and the Tesla being sold here, will be coming out of CH, not the USA or EU.  Where I suspect most of the CR / Tesla customers based.

 

Don't just read the headline, other tidbits from that link:

 

"Tesla scored a reliability score of 40/100, while electric vehicles overall scored 36/100. It isn’t all bad news for Tesla; its score matches the average for domestic automakers, the company was able to improve its ranking by four places compared to last year"

 

Also, and why I'm not a big fan of extra options, especially electronics, as most complaints from customers are about the 'extras' not the drivetrains.

 

So yea, if I paid 40-50k for a car, I'd be frustrated also when sh!t didn't work.

 

"At the same time, as Tesla attempts to offer the bleeding edge of software innovation, they undoubtedly encounter more software issues than have been typically seen in the automotive space. And while these problems are typically fixed through updates and technical support quickly, they could easily contribute to Tesla’s poor performance."

 

"Consumer Reports’ results lead to one central question, what influenced Tesla (and electric vehicles generally) in scoring so low compared to the competition? This question becomes especially confounding when the prevailing narrative is that “electric vehicles are generally more reliable than their gas counterparts.”

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Edited December 16, 2022 by KhunLA

[mistral53]

29 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Also consider CR is a USA based mag, and the Tesla being sold here, will be coming out of CH, not the USA or EU.  Where I suspect most of the CR / Tesla customers based.

 

Don't just read the headline, other tidbits from that link:

 

"Tesla scored a reliability score of 40/100, while electric vehicles overall scored 36/100. It isn’t all bad news for Tesla; its score matches the average for domestic automakers, the company was able to improve its ranking by four places compared to last year"

 

Also, and why I'm not a big fan of extra options, especially electronics, as most complaints from customers are about the 'extras' not the drivetrains.

 

So yea, if I paid 40-50k for a car, I'd be frustrated also when sh!t didn't work.

 

"At the same time, as Tesla attempts to offer the bleeding edge of software innovation, they undoubtedly encounter more software issues than have been typically seen in the automotive space. And while these problems are typically fixed through updates and technical support quickly, they could easily contribute to Tesla’s poor performance."

 

"Consumer Reports’ results lead to one central question, what influenced Tesla (and electric vehicles generally) in scoring so low compared to the competition? This question becomes especially confounding when the prevailing narrative is that “electric vehicles are generally more reliable than their gas counterparts.”

"

Sometimes the verbal diarrhea coming out of these rags probably has more to do with word counts and fiction, then actual reality - case in point: ' Tesla attempts to offer the bleeding edge of software innovation......' has a fantastic ring to it, but is hardly factual. Tesla still does not have a 360 camera view that is quite common in many vehicles, which everybody who has it in a vehicle will attest is much more useful than the ability to make a fart noise. Or self parking - a really useful feature available in many cars - Tesla is woefully lacking with their laughable attempt......and the list goes on.

 

Tesla is unsurpassed in some of the technologies they put in their cars, but they are not nearly as god-like as the Tesla-fanboys want to believe.

 

For context: I am one of the many thousands that have a Tesla on order - but only because the BYD Seal has no delivery date for Thailand.

Edited December 16, 2022 by mistral53

[KhunLA]

2 hours ago, mistral53 said:

Sometimes the verbal diarrhea coming out of these rags probably has more to do with word counts and fiction, then actual reality - case in point: ' Tesla attempts to offer the bleeding edge of software innovation......' has a fantastic ring to it, but is hardly factual. Tesla still does not have a 360 camera view that is quite common in many vehicles, which everybody who has it in a vehicle will attest is much more useful than the ability to make a fart noise. Or self parking - a really useful feature available in many cars - Tesla is woefully lacking with their laughable attempt......and the list goes on.

 

Tesla is unsurpassed in some of the technologies they put in their cars, but they are not nearly as god-like as the Tesla-fanboys want to believe.

 

For context: I am one of the many thousands that have a Tesla on order - but only because the BYD Seal has no delivery date for Thailand.

Got to take all with a grain of salt ... although ... I wouldn't call CR a rag, since a subscriber based magazine/site, company, doing consumer product testing & review from yearly subscriber surveys.

 

Gives CR quite a bit more credibility over advertiser funded rags & sites.  I was a subscriber for many years in the USA, and based my many, most expensive purchases from their recommendations, and all very accurate.

Edited December 16, 2022 by KhunLA

[Lacessit]

7 hours ago, mistral53 said:

Sometimes the verbal diarrhea coming out of these rags probably has more to do with word counts and fiction, then actual reality - case in point: ' Tesla attempts to offer the bleeding edge of software innovation......' has a fantastic ring to it, but is hardly factual. Tesla still does not have a 360 camera view that is quite common in many vehicles, which everybody who has it in a vehicle will attest is much more useful than the ability to make a fart noise. Or self parking - a really useful feature available in many cars - Tesla is woefully lacking with their laughable attempt......and the list goes on.

 

Tesla is unsurpassed in some of the technologies they put in their cars, but they are not nearly as god-like as the Tesla-fanboys want to believe.

 

For context: I am one of the many thousands that have a Tesla on order - but only because the BYD Seal has no delivery date for Thailand.

When motoring journalists write reviews of any new vehicle, one has to ask whether the lily is being gilded.

There are two drivers of favorable comment. The first is the car magazine, which depends on advertising revenue to stay in business. If too many car manufacturers pull their advertisements due to unfavorable comment, they don't.

The second driver are the journalists themselves, who don't get to test-drive new models, or go on junkets funded by manufacturers if they tell it like it is. And can even get fired if they are too scathing.

There's every incentive to gloss over failings, and none for honesty.

[Nepal4me]

Better than CR and other mag's reports, which generally have an agenda.  Look at customer satisfaction ratings.  Tesla consistently has highest customer ratings.