Enzian Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 My gf has had two Pfizer and for herself would not get a booster, but she's 42 and I'm 83, so she says she is open to a booster so as to reduce the chance of giving the virus to me (I've had 5 shots, but still had a mild case after #4); is there anywhere she can go? Thanks, and sorry if this has already been covered, I wasn't sure where to look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Of course. Boosters are readily available at pretty much every hospital....not necessarily Pfizer but there can be an advantage to mixing vaccines. In Bankok tjere was a vacvine center at the Bang Sue station but I am not sure if it is still open. The varioys private hosputals fo it, Med Park is especially known ss easy place to walk on and get it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzian Posted December 31, 2022 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 10 hours ago, Sheryl said: Boosters are readily available And (I should have added) are what's available said to be the latest mRNA for the latest variants (which I got on doc's recommendation in the US in August) or the same as what's been available for a year or more? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereyougo Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 11 hours ago, Sheryl said: Of course. Boosters are readily available at pretty much every hospital....not necessarily Pfizer but there can be an advantage to mixing vaccines. In Bankok tjere was a vacvine center at the Bang Sue station but I am not sure if it is still open. The varioys private hosputals fo it, Med Park is especially known ss easy place to walk on and get it. You sure. I don't know about Bangkok but nothing available any where in Pattaya being widely reported in news and Facebook forums 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, whereyougo said: You sure. I don't know about Bangkok but nothing available any where in Pattaya being widely reported in news and Facebook forums My wife and her brother had pfizer boosters at the government hospital in Chonburi a couple of days ago. You would normally need to be registered at a government hospital to be eligible. There are only 2 in Pattaya and I have heard the one in Soi Bukhao is not very friendly, may be worth asking at Naklua. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Enzian said: And (I should have added) are what's available said to be the latest mRNA for the latest variants (which I got on doc's recommendation in the US in August) or the same as what's been available for a year or more? Thanks! The newer vaccines are not available. Only the same as before. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) On 12/30/2022 at 10:40 AM, Enzian said: so she says she is open to a booster so as to reduce the chance of giving the virus to me Did she explain to you how her "vaccinations prevent the transmission" of the virus from her to you? I thought vaccinations just, generally, mitigated the worst effects of covid for the person vaccinated. Which is the vaccine that now prevents the virus's transmission to others? Edited December 31, 2022 by Liverpool Lou 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sheryl Posted December 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: Did she explain to you how her "vaccinations prevent the transmission" of the virus from her to you? I thought vaccinations just, generally, mitigated the worst effects of covid for the person vaccinated. Which is the vaccine that now prevents the virus's transmission to others? Vaccines also shorten duration and severity of infection which does relate to extent and duration of infectivitu. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzian Posted December 31, 2022 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: Which is the vaccine that now prevents the virus's transmission to others? If a vaccine prevents the virus from taking hold in one's body during an encounter, then one may not pass it to another. You might disagree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, Enzian said: If a vaccine prevents the virus from taking hold in one's body during an encounter, then one may not pass it to another. You might disagree. Are you saying that a vaccinated person cannot transmit the virus...or that the chances of them transmitting the virus to others is lessened by virtue of their being vaccinated? Is this new science? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 18 minutes ago, Sheryl said: Vaccines also shorten duration and severity of infection which does relate to extent and duration of infectivitu. You're saying that being vaccinated prevents the transmission of the virus to others, as the OP's wife thinks, to which my comment related? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digbeth Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Just got Pfizer from Bangkok City run hospital, Asked and they said Moderna has all expired, must be the same lot as those the private hospitals were offering for a fee looks like newer generation vaccines aren't even being discussed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sheryl Posted December 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: You're saying that being vaccinated prevents the transmission of the virus to others, as the OP's wife thinks, to which my comment related? I am saying that being vaccinated reduces (but does not vompletely eliminate) the risk of transmitting ghe virus to others. In the first couple of months post vaccination. circulating antibodies will usually prevent the virus from taking hold. Risk of transmission to others at that point is very low (but not zero). After that antibodies gradually subside but cellular immunity remains. Infection can take hold but the body is able to mount a quicker and better defense than the unimmunuzed, which translates to a shorter duration of illness and lower peak viral levels. Which means less infectious (not non-infectious) and for a shorter period of time. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Sheryl said: 13 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: You're saying that being vaccinated prevents the transmission of the virus to others, as the OP's wife thinks, to which my comment related? I am saying that being vaccinated reduces (but does not vompletely eliminate) the risk of transmitting ghe virus to others. Ok, I'm saying that being vaccinated does not prevent the transmission of the virus also. We agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardandtubs Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 14 minutes ago, Sheryl said: I am saying that being vaccinated reduces (but does not vompletely eliminate) the risk of transmitting ghe virus to others. In the first couple of months post vaccination. circulating antibodies will usually prevent the virus from taking hold. Risk of transmission to others at that point is very low (but not zero). After that antibodies gradually subside but cellular immunity remains. Infection can take hold but the body is able to mount a quicker and better defense than the unimmunuzed, which translates to a shorter duration of illness and lower peak viral levels. Which means less infectious (not non-infectious) and for a shorter period of time. A booster does not provide long-lasting protection, according to this study: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.11.29.22282916v1 A breakthrough infection provides longer lasting protection. Bearing in mind the OP's wife has very likely had a breakthrough infection (maybe at the same time as the OP), there probably wouldn't be much real-world benefit to the OP if his wife got the booster. Some small benefit maybe, but not much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coops Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) Available at many district medical centres the wife says... We went for our booster (Pfizer) a couple of weeks ago at the Bangkok Youth Centre Thai-Japanese at Din Daeng as it's fairly close to us. Free and well organised - I think it's only weekends at that location google "Bangkok thai-japanese youth centre" and you'll get it if that's handy for you (Din Daeng and Rama 9) Edited December 31, 2022 by coops 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sandyf Posted December 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said: Ok, I'm saying that being vaccinated does not prevent the transmission of the virus also. We agree. It is not a question of agreeing with your statement. You have disagreed with this statement "so she says she is open to a booster so as to reduce the chance of giving the virus to me" Obviously the concept of "reduction" is outside your comprhension. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Please keep it civil. And stay on topic. Which is: where to get a booster, not whether to get a booster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaichina Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Hi, Anyone knows where to get a bosster in Sathorn area. I went to 2 hospitals, BNH and another one, both didn t offer a booster and didn t know where to get one. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 On 12/31/2022 at 10:51 AM, Sheryl said: The newer vaccines are not available. Only the same as before. This certainly the case as of now and to be clear we are talking about the bivalent vaccines which are highly recommended for vulnerable groups as boosters.I haven't looked up the reference but I certainly remember several months ago Government spokesmen undertaking that these would be available in Thailand in due course. What's puzzling to me (perhaps it shouldn't be) is the total lack of information on the subject from sources that should be up to date on it.Specifically when very approximately will these vaccines be available in Thailand? Nobody seems to know.Perhaps there's a feeling that Covid is done and dusted.Who knows? Incidentally congratulations to Greg Watkins of the British Chamber who has been awarded the MBE specifically for services to British nationals in Thailand during the Covid-19 epidemic. Some will remember the unhelpful and actually rather lazy position taken by the departing British Ambassador on the question of vaccines.He seemed to think that "getting assurances" from the Thai authorities was all that was needed.The situation was saved by a more vigorous and empathetic new Ambassador, Mark Gooding, in concert with the British Chamber in obtaining vaccinations for those who could not get them elsewhere. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 3 hours ago, jayboy said: This certainly the case as of now and to be clear we are talking about the bivalent vaccines which are highly recommended for vulnerable groups as boosters.I haven't looked up the reference but I certainly remember several months ago Government spokesmen undertaking that these would be available in Thailand in due course. What's puzzling to me (perhaps it shouldn't be) is the total lack of information on the subject from sources that should be up to date on it.Specifically when very approximately will these vaccines be available in Thailand? Nobody seems to know.Perhaps there's a feeling that Covid is done and dusted.Who knows? Government has decided not to order any additional foreign vaccines. It is nto yet clear if they will permit private hospitals to order them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 26 minutes ago, Sheryl said: Government has decided not to order any additional foreign vaccines. It is nto yet clear if they will permit private hospitals to order them. Thank you.Existing stocks will presumably shortly be exhausted or time barred.Going forward, is Government going to require all vaccines (and improved vaccines) to be produced in Thailand and is there a domestic capacity to do so? If an awareness develops - as it has in the USA and Europe - that vulnerable groups need bivalent vaccines, it will be hard to resist pressure to import. Anyway it will be interesting to see exactly what the official confirmation says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y Chang Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 On 1/2/2023 at 3:37 PM, thaichina said: Hi, Anyone knows where to get a bosster in Sathorn area. I went to 2 hospitals, BNH and another one, both didn t offer a booster and didn t know where to get one. Thanks MedPark Hospital offers Pfizer (the original version, not the bivalent). Here is the link where you can sign-up: https://medparkhospital.jotform.com/itmedpark/MedparkPfizerGroup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Y Chang said: MedPark Hospital offers Pfizer (the original version, not the bivalent). Here is the link where you can sign-up: https://medparkhospital.jotform.com/itmedpark/MedparkPfizerGroup MedConsult Asia has Moderna if that is preferred. https://www.medconsultasia.com/ Walk ins are accepted but call first to make sure they still have in stock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaichina Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 21 hours ago, Sheryl said: MedConsult Asia has Moderna if that is preferred. https://www.medconsultasia.com/ Walk ins are accepted but call first to make sure they still have in stock Hello, Called them today, they do not have any vaccine available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaichina Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 On 1/4/2023 at 4:38 PM, Y Chang said: MedPark Hospital offers Pfizer (the original version, not the bivalent). Here is the link where you can sign-up: https://medparkhospital.jotform.com/itmedpark/MedparkPfizerGroup Thank for the link! As I understand, my mother in law who is not thai and on retirement visa doesn t qualify to get the vaccine based on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJoy Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 On 12/30/2022 at 10:40 AM, Enzian said: I wasn't sure where to look Try the QueQ app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 hour ago, thaichina said: Thank for the link! As I understand, my mother in law who is not thai and on retirement visa doesn t qualify to get the vaccine based on the list. What on earth gives you that impression? The page specifically refers to ID card OR passport and expat is one of the categories of persons on the list. Many, many retired expats (including me) have been vaccinated at MedPark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y Chang Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 hours ago, thaichina said: Thank for the link! As I understand, my mother in law who is not thai and on retirement visa doesn t qualify to get the vaccine based on the list. The Pfizer vaccines at MedPark is available to foreigners. I just got mine there. Please try again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaichina Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 39 minutes ago, Sheryl said: What on earth gives you that impression? The page specifically refers to ID card OR passport and expat is one of the categories of persons on the list. Many, many retired expats (including me) have been vaccinated at MedPark. When I click on Expat, it is requitred to provide corporate name which she doesn t have as she retired. I saw you can use passport number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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