Brexit: thousands of Britons expelled from EU since end of transition period

[Scott]

More than 2,250 British citizens were ordered to leave EU member states between the end of the Brexit transition period and September last year, according to figures from the bloc’s statistical office.

Quarterly data published late last month by Eurostat shows a total of 2,285 UK nationals were expelled from 1 January 2021, when British citizens lost their free movement rights within the EU, until the third quarter of last year.

Experts cautioned that the data did not specify why people were ordered to leave so not all expulsions may have been related to residency rules, but said the figures amounted to “the starkest possible reminder” of the consequences of Brexit.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jan/06/brexit-thousands-britons-expelled-eu

[BacchusGPT]

  On 1/8/2023 at 2:55 PM, Scott said:

Experts cautioned that the data did not specify why people were ordered to leave so not all expulsions may have been related to residency rules, but said the figures amounted to “the starkest possible reminder” of the consequences of Brexit.

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We should be fine then, because a couple of thousand is a small number compared to the number of British people residing in the EU. They don't even say why these people were ejected. They could have been kicked out for reasons we all agree with.

[Chomper Higgot]

  On 1/8/2023 at 3:28 PM, BacchusGPT said:

We should be fine then, because a couple of thousand is a small number compared to the number of British people residing in the EU. They don't even say why these people were ejected. They could have been kicked out for reasons we all agree with.

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There again they could have been kicked out for any number of reason we all don’t agree with.

 

A but tough on people who were denied a vote on BREXIT despite BREXIT having such a direct impact on their lives.

 

Nevertheless, welcome brand new member.

 

It’s always nice to, at least have the possibility, of new voices and opinions.

[JonnyF]

2,250 is a miniscule number. We get far more illegal refugees from EU countries landing in the same period but the Guardian wouldn't mention that.

 

It doesn't even say they were expelled due to Brexit. It could have been due to criminal activity rather than residency rules.

 

The Guardian still appears angry at losing the vote ????. 

[Chomper Higgot]

  On 1/9/2023 at 1:38 AM, JonnyF said:

2,250 is a miniscule number. We get far more illegal refugees from EU countries landing in the same period but the Guardian wouldn't mention that.

 

It doesn't even say they were expelled due to Brexit. It could have been due to criminal activity rather than residency rules.

 

The Guardian still appears angry at losing the vote ????. 

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The Guardian frequently reports on illegal immigration, they don’t however conflate their reports on the matter with a report on Britons being expelled from EU nations.

 

The Guardian didn’t get to vote on Brexit, neither did Britons living in EU nations, despite being the British citizens most effected by the outcome.

 

[JonnyF]

  On 1/9/2023 at 2:27 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

The Guardian didn’t get to vote on Brexit

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Well The Guardian is a newspaper so no, it didn't vote. But we are all aware of the left wing Remainer stance of the organization and those that work for it. So it's no surprise they are still bleating about it 7 years after the vote.

 

At least they acknowledged that they didn't know the reason people were being asked to leave (hence it could be totally unrelated to Brexit).

[Chomper Higgot]

  On 1/9/2023 at 2:34 AM, JonnyF said:

Well The Guardian is a newspaper so no, it didn't vote. But we are all aware of the left wing Remainer stance of the organization and those that work for it. So it's no surprise they are still bleating about it 7 years after the vote.

 

At least they acknowledged that they didn't know the reason people were being asked to leave (hence it could be totally unrelated to Brexit).

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It’s totally unrelated to illegal immigration to the UK (inserted by you), but how you can claim it is not related BREXIT which removed from all British citizens the right to live and work in EU nations is a mystery.

 

 

[roquefort]

  On 1/9/2023 at 1:38 AM, JonnyF said:

It doesn't even say they were expelled due to Brexit. It could have been due to criminal activity rather than residency rules.

 

The Guardian still appears angry at losing the vote ????. 

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The Guardian, most of the MSM and the entire civil service in the UK are extremely angry at losing the vote and doing their best to sabotage Brexit. Three years on and we're still struggling to get masses of unnecessary EU laws off the statute book. Rishi need to get a grip, particularly on illegal immigration.

[vinny41]

In total, according to Eurostat, more than a million non-EU citizens were ordered to leave the EU between January 2020 and September 2022

Of the 681,200 non-EU citizens found to be illegally present in the EU in 2021, only 590 (less than 1 percent) were British. Some 110 cases were due to overstays, 90 to illegal entry and 210 for “other reasons”

https://www.thelocal.se/20230104/revealed-more-than-1000-brits-ordered-to-leave-sweden-since-brexit/

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Enforcement_of_immigration_legislation_statistics#Latest_developments_in_enforcement_statistics

[JonnyF]

  On 1/9/2023 at 2:52 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s totally unrelated to illegal immigration to the UK (inserted by you), but how you can claim it is not related BREXIT which removed from all British citizens the right to live and work in EU nations is a mystery.

 

 

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The data does not specify why they were ordered to leave. Could have been any number of reasons e.g. criminal offenses.

 

How do you know it is related to Brexit? It may as well have said x,xxx Britons expelled from the EU since Covid 19 spread.

[Doctor Tom]

  On 1/8/2023 at 3:28 PM, BacchusGPT said:

We should be fine then, because a couple of thousand is a small number compared to the number of British people residing in the EU. They don't even say why these people were ejected. They could have been kicked out for reasons we all agree with.

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I imagine that the small figure is almost totally criminals and otherwise undesirables. Maybe a dozen or so who didn't get their residency paperwork in order, in time, who will no doubt return when they have done so.  A none report.  

[JonnyF]

Tomorrow's headline from The Guardian. "60% more typhoons in Phillipines since 2016 Brexit vote".

 

They really do try and pin everything on Brexit ????.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

  On 1/9/2023 at 3:34 AM, JonnyF said:

Tomorrow's headline from The Guardian. "60% more typhoons in Phillipines since 2016 Brexit vote".

 

They really do try and pin everything on Brexit ????.

 

 

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Because I read the article.

 

Refer above and follow the link.

[Chomper Higgot]

  On 1/9/2023 at 3:07 AM, roquefort said:

The Guardian, most of the MSM and the entire civil service in the UK are extremely angry at losing the vote and doing their best to sabotage Brexit. Three years on and we're still struggling to get masses of unnecessary EU laws off the statute book. Rishi need to get a grip, particularly on illegal immigration.

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There zero EU laws on the UK statute books.

 

Laws on the UK statute books are by definition UK laws, they were put there by the UK parliament.

They cover a number of important issues, including workers rights, rights to equality in au and retirement benefits, through product safety to the protection of individual privacy.

 

All the stuff the extremists in the ERG would rather was not in the way of their plans to make more money for themselves and their chums.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

  On 1/9/2023 at 3:31 AM, Doctor Tom said:

I imagine that the small figure is almost totally criminals and otherwise undesirables. Maybe a dozen or so who didn't get their residency paperwork in order, in time, who will no doubt return when they have done so.  A none report.  

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One can imagine lots of things.

[Chomper Higgot]

  On 1/9/2023 at 3:34 AM, JonnyF said:

Tomorrow's headline from The Guardian. "60% more typhoons in Phillipines since 2016 Brexit vote".

 

They really do try and pin everything on Brexit ????.

 

 

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You could counter it with some tangible BREXIT benefits.

[roquefort]

  On 1/9/2023 at 4:01 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

There zero EU laws on the UK statute books.

 

 

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Nonsense. There's a committee going through 11,000 pieces of legislation imposed on the UK by the EU to decide which are no longer required and can be removed. My guess is it's about 99.5% of them.

[Doctor Tom]

  On 1/9/2023 at 4:03 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

One can imagine lots of things.

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Isn't that what public, anonymous forums are for? 

[Chomper Higgot]

  On 1/9/2023 at 4:11 AM, roquefort said:

Nonsense. There's a committee going through 11,000 pieces of legislation imposed on the UK by the EU to decide which are no longer required and can be removed. My guess is it's about 99.5% of them.

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The laws were not ‘imposed on the UK’ the UK was actively involved in their drafting, had an absolute right to veto and passed the laws in the UK Parliament.

 

[roquefort]

  On 1/9/2023 at 4:16 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

The laws were not ‘imposed on the UK’ the UK was actively involved in their drafting, had an absolute right to veto and passed the laws in the UK Parliament.

 

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Of course they did.

[sammieuk1]

Brexit the gift that keeps taking but not for Boris a million quid for 4 speeches the only tangible benefit so far ???? 

[Purdey]

Looking at what happened in Spain, foreigners were told they should register to get residence but a lot of people didn't and were asked to leave.

Make same same but different. 

[Chomper Higgot]

  On 1/9/2023 at 4:37 AM, roquefort said:

Of course they did.

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Meaningless comment 

[Phoenix Rising]

  On 1/9/2023 at 3:34 AM, JonnyF said:

Tomorrow's headline from The Guardian. "60% more typhoons in Phillipines since 2016 Brexit vote".

 

They really do try and pin everything on Brexit ????.

 

 

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There's really no need to "pin everything" on Brexit. It's more than enough to point out that Brexit causes (and will continue to cause until reentry) enormous economic hardship and turns the UK into an economic and political has-been.

[RayC]

  On 1/9/2023 at 4:11 AM, roquefort said:

Nonsense. There's a committee going through 11,000 pieces of legislation imposed on the UK by the EU to decide which are no longer required and can be removed. My guess is it's about 99.5% of them.

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Looks like your estimate of 99.5% is way off the mark according to this government minister

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/01/05/uk-may-scrap-hundreds-not-thousands-eu-laws/

 

[roquefort]

  On 1/9/2023 at 6:08 AM, RayC said:

 

Looks like your estimate of 99.5% is way off the mark according to this government minister

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/01/05/uk-may-scrap-hundreds-not-thousands-eu-laws/

 

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So they're only focusing on the top 10% of useless laws to avoid wasting parliamentary time (not because they're not useless laws). Sounds like a sensible approach.

[Chomper Higgot]

  On 1/9/2023 at 7:54 AM, roquefort said:

So they're only focusing on the top 10% of useless laws to avoid wasting parliamentary time (not because they're not useless laws). Sounds like a sensible approach.

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What Sunak is doing is kicking the can down the road.

 

The ERG want full deregulation of the UK, which like the Lettuce’s ripping up ‘economic orthodoxy’ will result in extreme damage to the UK economy.

 

It certainly will not deliver benefits for ordinary citizens.

 

A battle is due, between the madness of the ERG and Conservative prudence.

 

 

 

 

[roquefort]

  On 1/9/2023 at 8:01 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

What Sunak is doing is kicking the can down the road.

 

What all governments do.

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  On 1/9/2023 at 8:01 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

The ERG want full deregulation of the UK, which like the Lettuce’s ripping up ‘economic orthodoxy’ will result in extreme damage to the UK economy

 

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Exactly what damage to the UK economy could be worse than 10% inflation, negative growth, strikes on a scale not seen since the 1970s and total collapse of the NHS?

[nauseus]

  On 1/9/2023 at 4:16 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

The laws were not ‘imposed on the UK’ the UK was actively involved in their drafting, had an absolute right to veto and passed the laws in the UK Parliament.

 

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I wish we had tried to veto them - then we would have been kicked out decades ago and a referendum would have not been necessary.

[Chomper Higgot]

  On 1/9/2023 at 9:12 AM, nauseus said:

I wish we had tried to veto them - then we would have been kicked out decades ago and a referendum would have not been necessary.

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Why would the UK veto laws and regulations that the UK had an active role in drafting?