UK; Girl,7, in a critical condition after shooting outside funeral injures six people

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A 7-year-old girl is in a 'life threatening' condition in hospital after being injured in a suspected drive-by shooting in London.

Six people were injured in the event, which occurred near Euston station in the north of the city.

Met Police officers said they were called to Phoenix Road at 1.30pm on Saturday to reports of a shooting.

The incident happened near a church where a funeral was taking place, leaving six people injured.

Three women – aged 48, 54 and 41 – required hospital treatment, with their injuries assessed as non-life threatening, though the 48-year-old may have life-changing injuries.

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[SunnyinBangrak]

Heartbreaking, but how are Brits supposed to protect their families when only criminals carry shooters? Seems almost daily I'm reading about firearm toting criminals over there. Do Brits feel safe over there? No wonder I see so many in Thailand

[Kwasaki]

55 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Heartbreaking, but how are Brits supposed to protect their families when only criminals carry shooters? Seems almost daily I'm reading about firearm toting criminals over there. Do Brits feel safe over there? No wonder I see so many in Thailand

London is large and in many area's has never been safe. 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Heartbreaking, but how are Brits supposed to protect their families when only criminals carry shooters? Seems almost daily I'm reading about firearm toting criminals over there. Do Brits feel safe over there? No wonder I see so many in Thailand

People aren’t living in fear of their lives in the UK.

 

Don’t draw too many conclusions about life in the UK from the Brits you meet in Thailand.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Kwasaki said:

London is large and in many area's has never been safe. 

Nonsense.

 

London is large, crime is a problem in all large cities, but ‘many areas unsafe ‘ nah!

[RuamRudy]

3 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Heartbreaking, but how are Brits supposed to protect their families when only criminals carry shooters? Seems almost daily I'm reading about firearm toting criminals over there. Do Brits feel safe over there? No wonder I see so many in Thailand

I would much rather the UK approach to gun laws than some sort of free for all where there are next to no controls over who gets guns, the government is beholden to the gun lobby and mass shootings are an almost daily occurrence the length and breadth of the country.

Edited January 15, 2023 by RuamRudy

[brianthainess]

3 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Heartbreaking, but how are Brits supposed to protect their families when only criminals carry shooters? Seems almost daily I'm reading about firearm toting criminals over there. Do Brits feel safe over there? No wonder I see so many in Thailand

So I guess you're an American.

[2009]

I am interested to know the nationality and immigration status for the shooter.

[richard_smith237]

5 minutes ago, 2009 said:

I am interested to know the nationality and immigration status for the shooter.

What confirmation bias are you looking for ?

 

Drive by shooting... Columbian hit ?

Edited January 15, 2023 by richard_smith237

[2009]

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

What confirmation bias are you looking for ?

If it is a new arrival to the kingdom, then that's a failure of the immigration system, OBVIOUSLY.

[Chomper Higgot]

15 minutes ago, 2009 said:

If it is a new arrival to the kingdom, then that's a failure of the immigration system, OBVIOUSLY.

So you want to make this about immigration.

 

It seems it isn’t only the gun that has a trigger.

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Nonsense.

 

London is large, crime is a problem in all large cities, but ‘many areas unsafe ‘ nah!

As usual you put down things having not been to many of the areas that frequency have had trouble for many years. 

[2009]

12 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So you want to make this about immigration.

 

It seems it isn’t only the gun that has a trigger.

Just curious as to the shooter is.

 

Are you denying that immigrants commit serious crimes in the UK?

 

Don't you think there should be a zero tolerance policy on that?

 

Don't you think they should be careful about who is allowed in?

 

Do you even care about Britain and the British?

[Bkk Brian]

5 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Heartbreaking, but how are Brits supposed to protect their families when only criminals carry shooters? Seems almost daily I'm reading about firearm toting criminals over there. Do Brits feel safe over there? No wonder I see so many in Thailand

Yep, my family there feels very safe, the UK has one of the lowest rates of deaths from gun violence in the world. In 2019, the country had only about .04 deaths per 100,000 people. That’s compared to 3.96 for the U.S. in the same year.

[richard_smith237]

1 hour ago, 2009 said:

Just curious as to the shooter is.

Why are you trying to force this into being an immigration issue ?

 

 

1 hour ago, 2009 said:

Are you denying that immigrants commit serious crimes in the UK?

Your question is dumbed down and over simplified - No, no one suggests immigrants do not commit serious crimes.. they clearly do, so do British nationals - is there any proportionate difference ?? 

 

1 hour ago, 2009 said:

Don't you think there should be a zero tolerance policy on that?

There should be a zero tolerance policy on any serious crime.

 

 

1 hour ago, 2009 said:

Don't you think they should be careful about who is allowed in?

The British Authorities should be careful about who is allowed in... i.e. those with existing criminal records of serious crime should not be permitted entry to the UK and those who have been caught committing serious crime jailed then deported. 

Authorities should also be careful to monitor existing British criminals found to have committed serious crime in the past. 

 

1 hour ago, 2009 said:

Do you even care about Britain and the British?

 

Yes, which I why don’t like to see thinly veiled bigotry and racism, most immigrants come to the UK, work hard, fit in, contribute to a cosmopolitan society.

 

 

 

That said - none of this shooting above has anything to do with immigration...  It was a drive by shooting... it could equally have been british born nationals as it is immigrants or even someone who’d travelled into the UK for the ’specific task’ [shooting].....   

 

Making this an ‘immigration issue’ without any further information is simply highlighting a bias. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 15, 2023 by richard_smith237

[RayC]

Another tragedy. Hopefully, those who did this will be brought to justice.

 

Re the argument about gun control. Imo the data says it all: In 2021, 35 people died in the UK from gun-related crimes. In the US, the figure was 14,000 (2018 figures; latest available). I doubt that anything like 14,000 people were "saved" as a result of them owning a gun.

[Chomper Higgot]

4 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

As usual you put down things having not been to many of the areas that frequency have had trouble for many years. 

I’ll bet I was in London more recently than you.

 

Yesterday even, less than half a mile away from this shooting incident.

 

When was the last time you were in London, anywhere in London at all?

[candide]

11 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Heartbreaking, but how are Brits supposed to protect their families when only criminals carry shooters? Seems almost daily I'm reading about firearm toting criminals over there. Do Brits feel safe over there? No wonder I see so many in Thailand

Seriously?

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/(i-(/United-States/Crime/Violent-crime

[ozimoron]

9 hours ago, 2009 said:

I am interested to know the nationality and immigration status for the shooter.

Better to take a free kick now in case you don't get a chance later?

[still kicking]

10 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

People aren’t living in fear of their lives in the UK.

 

Don’t draw too many conclusions about life in the UK from the Brits you meet in Thailand.

 

 

If anybody should live in fear that would be the American 

[Mac Mickmanus]

16 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Well it's not being reported on the BBCs main news page right now (no doubt buried somewhere) so it's safe to say

Although it is headline news on SKY and they are searching for the perpetrators at the moment . (Posted on Sky a few minutes ago)

 

 

 https://news.sky.com/story/euston-shooting-suspects-fired-shotgun-at-funeral-mourners-from-moving-car-12787191

[Bkk Brian]

25 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Well it's not being reported on the BBCs main news page right now (no doubt buried somewhere) so it's safe to say this involves ethnic minorities. It's a drive by shooting so let's all take a wild guess about what happened. 

 

There's a link to Shamima Begum's podcast "I'm not a monster" there though.

 

RIP to all the victims. And sympathy to decent London residents who haven't relocated yet. Maybe Sadiq can arrange a diversity fireworks display to help those affected?

BBC UK main news headline. You mention RIP to all the victims?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk

Edited January 15, 2023 by Bkk Brian

[Mac Mickmanus]

24 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Well it's not being reported on the BBCs main news page right now (no doubt buried somewhere) so it's safe to say this involves ethnic minorities.

Second main story on the BBC news homepage , second behind the Nepal plane crash .

   Police are looking for  Black car , a Toyota 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news

[still kicking]

8 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yep, my family there feels very safe, the UK has one of the lowest rates of deaths from gun violence in the world. In 2019, the country had only about .04 deaths per 100,000 people. That’s compared to 3.96 for the U.S. in the same year.

Which country has the most gun deaths in the world?

Half of all firearm-related deaths  occurred in just six countries – all in the Americas – according to a study. Brazil had the largest gun deaths toll, with over 43,000 people killed that year. The US was next with 37,200. It was followed by Mexico, Colombia, Venezuela and Guatemala.

[richard_smith237]

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

27 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Well it's not being reported on the BBCs main news page right now (no doubt buried somewhere) so it's safe to say this involves ethnic minorities. It's a drive by shooting so let's all take a wild guess about what happened. 

 

There's a link to Shamima Begum's podcast "I'm not a monster" there though.

 

RIP to all the victims. And sympathy to decent London residents who haven't relocated yet. Maybe Sadiq can arrange a diversity fireworks display to help those affected?

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BBC UK main news headline. You mention RIP to all the victims?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk

Edited 1 minute ago by Bkk Brian

I think me means the suspected nationality of the shooters is not being reported on the BBC main news page...

... most likely because its completely unknown....  This ‘immigration / ethnic minority’ discussion is completely moot until more is know and only points to the negative bias of some of the posters making such comments. 

[richard_smith237]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Second main story on the BBC news homepage , second behind the Nepal plane crash .

   Police are looking for  Black car , a Toyota 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Well, that should appease some of the posters even if the black colour is only associated with a vehicle.... 

[JonnyF]

3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Second main story on the BBC news homepage , second behind the Nepal plane crash .

   Police are looking for  Black car , a Toyota 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Not on mine. The Nepal plane crash and china covid deaths. Plus something about Indian farmers.

 

 

[JonnyF]

4 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

I think me means the suspected nationality of the shooters is not being reported on the BBC main news page...

... most likely because its completely unknown....  This ‘immigration / ethnic minority’ discussion is completely moot until more is know and only points to the negative bias of some of the posters making such comments. 

Let's revisit this when they release the details. 

 

I suspect any "bias" will end up being 100% correct. 

[Bluespunk]

13 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Heartbreaking, but how are Brits supposed to protect their families when only criminals carry shooters? Seems almost daily I'm reading about firearm toting criminals over there. Do Brits feel safe over there? No wonder I see so many in Thailand

Daily?

 

Really?

 

Daily?

 

Don’t think so…