Alcoholics with co-exisiting sex addiction

[Andy F]

I was over 20 years sober in AA when I succumbed to sex addiction. Thankfully, I didnt drink but I went on a massive dry drunk. I became so unwell acting out with sex addiction that I had to redo the 12 steps again in the SLAA program

 

https://slaafws.org/

 

I hope you like the blog about this aspect of the spiritual illness

 

https://aaforagnostics.com/blog/sex-addiction/

 

[KhunLA]

Been a sex addict ever since my first BJ ... may I never be cured ????

 

If I was single, I'd go to 'rehab / SA' meeting, just to hook up with other sex addicts.

Edited January 26, 2023 by KhunLA

[ignore it]

Well on the bright side  you've come to the right country.

[Luuk Chaai]

Addicted To Love 

[HappyExpat57]

It's all about learning your limit. Anything in moderation, buddy.

[Andy F]

27 minutes ago, ignore it said:

Well on the bright side  you've come to the right country.

It was in Thailand I had my rock bottom. Got recovery in London. Now retired in Thailand with the same (age appropriate) lady for almost a decade ????????????

[Andy F]

5 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

It's all about learning your limit. Anything in moderation, buddy.

As an addict and alcoholic, the word "limit" wasn't a part of my vocabulary. I am forever grateful for the 12 steps ????????????

[2baht]

Get councelling! ????

[hotchilli]

3 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Been a sex addict ever since my first BJ ... may I never be cured ????

 

If I was single, I'd go to 'rehab / SA' meeting, just to hook up with other sex addicts.

Thailand has Pattaya, open air consultancy.

[Tazmo]

Addiction is a disease that needs treatment, then with rehabilitation you can live without suffering.

Similar to a Diabetic having to make readjustments.

” Rock Bottom “ is when most seek help. Treatment usually involves relatives and education.

Cross Addictions often occur, one may stop opiates but switch to alcohol and Vice versa, or switch to sex; gambling; internet;  All related to dopamine levels in our brain, eg increases with exercise, a more acceptable option. Levels are said to be low in addicts, whereas Others may overindulge and get away with it. May not hit rock bottom but end up with cirrhosis of the liver. Liver Units in the UK are full. Or syphillis  In the case of sex addiction.

[Bangkok Barry]

I thought this was going to be a thread about bar-girls.

[kidneyw]

1 hour ago, Bangkok Barry said:

I thought this was going to be a thread about bar-girls.

It is now.

[digger70]

It's all in the head ,Soft in the head I call that. It ain't will power

Won't power  it is ,,,,, I won't do this and I won't do that. 

Addiction ,Soft in the head .Control  that ,,,,,,Won't power it is.

I have tried a few things ,Different Drugs /women/Smoking/few Other things. 

I liked some off the drugs /women. But one got to say Enough is enough if one can't do that that means ,no won't power /soft in the head. 

Some people don't like the Truth, but this is it.

 Don't start on me about addiction  I won't go there . Let it be  

 

 

[Andy F]

3 hours ago, Tazmo said:

Addiction is a disease that needs treatment, then with rehabilitation you can live without suffering.

Similar to a Diabetic having to make readjustments.

” Rock Bottom “ is when most seek help. Treatment usually involves relatives and education.

Cross Addictions often occur, one may stop opiates but switch to alcohol and Vice versa, or switch to sex; gambling; internet;  All related to dopamine levels in our brain, eg increases with exercise, a more acceptable option. Levels are said to be low in addicts, whereas Others may overindulge and get away with it. May not hit rock bottom but end up with cirrhosis of the liver. Liver Units in the UK are full. Or syphillis  In the case of sex addiction.

Thanks for sharing that. I really liked what you had to say! ????????????

[Jimjim1]

On 1/26/2023 at 12:11 PM, KhunLA said:

Been a sex addict ever since my first BJ ... may I never be cured 

Sadlyyou will be, age will take over just when you least expect it, so enjoy all you can as often as you can.

There will come a time when you can ride all night but passing the finishing post is a sometime event.

[Neeranam]

On 1/26/2023 at 2:45 PM, HappyExpat57 said:

It's all about learning your limit. Anything in moderation, buddy.

We're talking about addiction here. The very definition of addiction is that you can't control the amount. 

[Neeranam]

What disturbs me more with recovering alkies is when they cheat on their spouse. AA is all about honesty, IMHO.

[Andy F]

On 1/26/2023 at 4:12 PM, Tazmo said:

Addiction is a disease that needs treatment, then with rehabilitation you can live without suffering.

Similar to a Diabetic having to make readjustments.

” Rock Bottom “ is when most seek help. Treatment usually involves relatives and education.

Cross Addictions often occur, one may stop opiates but switch to alcohol and Vice versa, or switch to sex; gambling; internet;  All related to dopamine levels in our brain, eg increases with exercise, a more acceptable option. Levels are said to be low in addicts, whereas Others may overindulge and get away with it. May not hit rock bottom but end up with cirrhosis of the liver. Liver Units in the UK are full. Or syphillis  In the case of sex addiction.

So true! Thanks for sharing

[Andy F]

11 hours ago, Neeranam said:

What disturbs me more with recovering alkies is when they cheat on their spouse. AA is all about honesty, IMHO.

Exactly Neeranam. If alcoholics admit that rigorous honesty is the only thing thats going to help them get well, then sadly, they wont be making much progress with the "spiritual malady" acting out on sex and love addicition

[Andy F]

11 hours ago, Neeranam said:

We're talking about addiction here. The very definition of addiction is that you can't control the amount. 

Agreed! Addiction is an illness that is progressive due to a total loss of control over the addictive behaviour 

[KhunLA]

On 1/30/2023 at 5:19 PM, Jimjim1 said:

Sadlyyou will be, age will take over just when you least expect it, so enjoy all you can as often as you can.

There will come a time when you can ride all night but passing the finishing post is a sometime event.

I'm 68 already ... if & when, doesn't matter much really at this point.  Just have take up a new hobby ????

[Neeranam]

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

I'm 68 already ... if & when, doesn't matter much really at this point.  Just have take up a new hobby ????

If you are indeed a sex addict, it might not be that easy. Have you ever sought help?

[KhunLA]

37 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

If you are indeed a sex addict, it might not be that easy. Have you ever sought help?

Why would I seek help ?  Maybe if it was  harmful addiction.  

[Neeranam]

4 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Why would I seek help ?  Maybe if it was  harmful addiction.  

Are you trolling or trying to be funny? 

 

If neither, here's a link to where you can get help.

 

I'm amazed SA isn't bigger in Thailand, especially Pattaya.

 

https://saa-recovery.org/

 

 

[Neeranam]

14 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Why would I seek help ?  Maybe if it was  harmful addiction.  

Out of interest, are you still drinking? 

If so, do you need more or less sex when drunk?

[KhunLA]

16 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Are you trolling or trying to be funny? 

 

If neither, here's a link to where you can get help.

 

I'm amazed SA isn't bigger in Thailand, especially Pattaya.

 

https://saa-recovery.org/

 

 

Neither, myself & wife enjoy our sex life, why would change anything.  Days past as a youngin', I definitely, probably, maybe, made the wrong choices to satisfy the addiction. 

 

No harm or major regrets because of, and suspect consenting partners had the same addiction.  Fun, funny & embarrassing, when looking back, but safe & harmless.

 

Amazingly escaped all those years of, STD free ... ????????????

Knock on 'wood' ... ????

[Neeranam]

On 1/26/2023 at 12:11 PM, KhunLA said:

If I was single, I'd go to 'rehab / SA' meeting, just to hook up with other sex addicts.

This surely is a wind up. 

This is the same as a heroin dealer going to a Narcotics Anonymous meeting to get new clients. 

[Neeranam]

2 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Neither, myself & wife enjoy our sex life, why would change anything.  Days past as a youngin', I definitely, probably, maybe, made the wrong choices to satisfy the addiction. 

 

No harm or major regrets because of, and suspect consenting partners had the same addiction.  Fun, funny & embarrassing, when looking back, but safe & harmless.

 

Amazingly escaped all those years of, STD free ... ????????????

Knock on 'wood' ... ????

So you have no problem with sex, yet want to come on a serious thread for those with a drinking problem/sex addiction and tell us all that you have no problem with either?  Come on dude.

[KhunLA]

21 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Out of interest, are you still drinking? 

If so, do you need more or less sex when drunk?

Drinking, rarely open a 2nd beer (490ml), the past 15 ish years.  Drinking was never a major problem, as just a hobbyist vs lifestyle.

 

Days past, when had a few, that's when choice to fill the SA addiction may have not been the best.  As stated, lucky & unscathed.

Edited February 2, 2023 by KhunLA

[KhunLA]

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

This surely is a wind up. 

This is the same as a heroin dealer going to a Narcotics Anonymous meeting to get new clients. 

Completely different.  Terrible comparison.