Russia insists American Boeing aircraft flying to Thailand are safely maintained despite blowout

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(Left) Photos of the plane’s engine after it appeared to explode on Saturday afternoon while attempting to take off at Phuket International Airport. (Right) The head of the Russian Federal Agency for Air Transport, Alexander Neradko, has insisted that American-made aircraft operated by Russian airlines are safe and well-maintained despite sanctions imposed by Washington and other states worldwide due to the ongoing Russian war with Ukraine.

 

by James Morris and Son Nguyen

Azur Air flight passengers were given food, refreshments and hotel accommodation before being flown home to Moscow on Sunday as technical experts looked at the Boeing jetliner which had ‘malfunctioned’ as it took off from Phuket on Saturday afternoon with 321 passengers aboard bound for Moscow. The aircraft’s captain was lucky to be alerted to the engine fire by the traffic controller at the airport.

Russia has denied that its aircraft ferrying tourists between the motherland and Thailand are anything but safe after a scare on Saturday when a Boeing jetliner developed a fire in its right engine as it took off from Phuket International Airport. The incident left the damaged aircraft, a 26-year-old Boeing 767-300ER, blocking traffic on the runway for over 40 minutes disrupting 47 flights at the international airport, some of which had to be diverted to Suvarnabhumi Airport and local airports in Hua Hin and Ko Samui.

 

A top official in Russia has denied that a shortage of parts and lack of maintenance of Russian aircraft may have been one of the reasons for a passenger jet engine catching fire on a Russian flight that attempted to take off from Phuket Airport on Saturday afternoon but which had to be aborted in a dramatic fashion.

 

Full story: https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2023/02/07/russia-insists-american-aircraft-phuket-are-safe-air-azur-alexander-neradko/

 

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[Northstar1]

Could have been a tragedy, it’s a matter of time till it happens again!

[edwinchester]

I wonder how easy it will be for a Russian aircraft to obtain Boeing spare parts in Thailand?

[sungod]

quite a dashing uniform

[apetley]

25 minutes ago, edwinchester said:

I wonder how easy it will be for a Russian aircraft to obtain Boeing spare parts in Thailand?

Maybe Aeroflot can go along to Somchais Used Aero Parts in Suphanburi. They have plenty of barely used Boeing parts an Austrian gentleman donated years ago.

[phetphet]

They will probably strip parts from other similar aircraft left behind when all the foreign companies left Russia.

[Cake Monster]

36 minutes ago, edwinchester said:

I wonder how easy it will be for a Russian aircraft to obtain Boeing spare parts in Thailand?

For sure the thing wont just sit waiting for repair.

Sanctions ????

[LosLobo]

41 minutes ago, phetphet said:

They will probably strip parts from other similar aircraft left behind when all the foreign companies left Russia.

"Left behind" is an understatement"!

 

Putin effectively stole leased aircraft worth billions.

 

"Putin seizes planes".

 

"President Vladimir Putin earlier this month signed a law allowing Russian airlines to continue flying the foreign-owned airplanes domestically".

 

Aircraft leasing giant casts doubt on renting to Russian airlines again (cnbc.com)

Edited February 7, 2023 by LosLobo

[cncltd1973]

this reads like an endorsement to American built quality- jets built so well that they are safe even without proper maintenance!

[Tropicalevo]

2 hours ago, sungod said:

quite a dashing uniform

But we cannot take his words seriously.

He only has one row of badges on his uniform.

[CatCage]

Line from the above article:

Russia has denied that its aircraft ferrying tourists between the motherland and Thailand are anything but safe...........

 

Really!!!

[Hook]

Hard to say but the way it looks with that motor turn in burn 'in its going to take more than a few spare parts to fix. 

 

[NativeBob]

Worst case of content re-writing: 

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aircraft ferrying tourists

 

[Bkk Brian]

According to these reports even China banned Russia's Boeing from their airspace.

 

China Bans Stolen Russian Planes from Entering its Airspace

China’s civil aviation authority has banned from its airspace Airbuses and Boeings which Russia has stolen from international lessors shortly after it invaded Ukraine back in February.

https://www.occrp.org/en/daily/16397-china-bans-stolen-russian-planes-from-entering-its-airspace

 

Russian Airbus and Boeing aircraft banned from Chinese airspace – reports

Additionally, in March and May Russian aviation laws were overhauled, getting rid of numerous safety regulations relating to maintenance and certification. With sanctions also affecting maintenance and parts of non-Russian-made aircraft, Russian airlines are facing an upcoming struggle to keep the aircraft airworthy. 

https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/31154-china-blocks-russian-airbus-boeing-aircraft

[Banana7]

The storey says the Captain was alerted by air traffic control. The cockpit contains an "engine fire" alarm system which would have been blaring loudly with a flashing bright light indicating an engine fire, highly visable to both Captain and co-pilot. Either the cockpit crew were doing something other than attending to their duties, or the aircraft had not been maintained properly to ensure the alarm system was working properly. Either way flyers beware of Russian operated flights.

 

 

Edited February 7, 2023 by Banana7

[Banana7]

Thailand personnel could face imprisonment, fines, loss of export privileges and other restricting steps if Thailand provides spare parts, fuel and other services for the U.S.-made planes that are being used for flights to and from Russia. 

 

U.S. Trade and Development Agency has notified foreign companies about the U.S. export restrictions in regard to Russian, Belarussian and Iranian transport companies.

 

Assistant Secretary of Commerce Thea Rozman Kendler may impose sanctions on Thailand if it continues to provide spare parts, fuel and other services for the U.S.-made planes that are being used for flights to and from Russia and Belarus. She has already served notice to Turkey.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/us-puts-pressure-turkey-end-172100422.html

 

 

 

 

Edited February 7, 2023 by Banana7

[bamnutsak]

33 minutes ago, Banana7 said:

or the aircraft had not been maintained properly to ensure the alarm system was working properly

Yellow INOP stickers.

 

https://twitter.com/galcpmedia/status/1571420764384919558?lang=en

 

 

The aircraft Azur and Aeroflot are flying to Thailand are owned by Russian companies. I think many of Aeroflot's 767s were leased but recently purchased. Other leased aircraft, aka "stolen" (777/A350), are only used on domestic routes.

 

These Azur aircraft are flying to a lot of places besides THL. MLE, CMB.

 

40 minutes ago, Banana7 said:

Either way flyers beware of Russian operated flights.

Yes, I would think those 309 pax on the aborted flight will be extra lubricated for their flight home, with resounding applause once the flight lifts off.

[BusyB]

I don't think they'll get it repaired. It'll need an engine change - that sounds like a compressor stall (not in itself particularly dangerous if the engine is shut down and extinguished which is what happened).

 

There's not only fire damage, some of the compressor blades will be bent out of shape and the engine is useless for all intents and purposes.

 

So where's the replacement coming from? Who's gonna fit it? Who'll sign off on it? I suspect it may well be abandoned.

 

Fact is that any spares for Russian registered planes are being stripped off other planes, or from  unregistered sanctions busters or are naked forgeries which don't match specifications, especially with regard to material quality.

 

You would not get my bum on a Russian carrier's seat for the foreseeable future.

[herfiehandbag]

11 hours ago, sungod said:

quite a dashing uniform

And he's only the security bloke in the car park!

[Woof999]

https://www.lazada.co.th/catalog/?q=boeing+engine&_keyori=ss&from=input&spm=a2o4m.searchlist.search.go.67354cc38Hwd0A

 

Just did a search on Lazada for Boeing engine and got a few hits.

[herfiehandbag]

4 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

, I would think those 309 pax on the aborted flight will be extra lubricated for their flight home, with resounding applause once the flight lifts of

Thinking back to my days of flying on Aeroflot and Uzbekistan Air, the applause was mainly kept for when they got on the ground.

 

Air Uzbekistan was " interesting". A platoon of paratroopers surrounded the aircraft when it landed at Tashkent, and the bus to the terminal was escorted by BTR armoured cars. Each transit passenger was accompanied by his own secret policeman!

 

Aeroflot was less intense security wise, but I do remember during a bout of turbulence over India, a chap who insisted on moving around was returned to his seat in a headlock by a (male) flight attendant. The food was <deleted>. 

 

Bizarrely with both airlines, just about every Russian or Uzbek passenger boarded carrying one of those big cardboard drums of laundry detergent. Presumably you couldn't get it in Russia. Explains the smell on a crowded aircraft!

[Denim]

1 minute ago, herfiehandbag said:

Thinking back to my days of flying on Aeroflot and Uzbekistan Air, the applause was mainly kept for when they got on the ground.

Wow. That was really slumming it.

 

I always spent the extra 5 quid and flew Tarom !!

 

With Aeroflot , the brick shothouse hostesses were so fat that they blocked the aisle just when you wanted to spend a penny.

 

Faces carved in stone to resemble the back of a bus.

To make love to one you would have needed a ladder and crampons.

[Tug]

I for one am happy that a tragedy was avoided but I doubt the crew was unaware of the problem just the Thais trying to make themselves look good.that beeing said I’m sure they are having major problems keeping their stolen aircraft flying they are probably going to lose one soon unfortunately 

[bangon04]

11 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

But we cannot take his words seriously.

He only has one row of badges on his uniform.

and no paratrooper wings......

[bangon04]

Don't we miss the good old days - the Tupolev 154..... "If there is a loss of cabin pressure, you can ask the hostess for a loan of the oxygen mask"

Lucky the hostess was plenty strong enough to drag the oxygen bottle down the aisle....

and the animal legs hanging down from the overhead baggage nets......

[bamnutsak]

Rosaviatsia Approves Aircraft Cannibalization

 

LONDON – Rosaviatsia, The Federal Air Transport Agency, has given the green light for aircraft cannibalization to go ahead as sanctions continue to bite Russia.

 

As per Aviation Week, this approval from Rosaviatsia means that parts from grounded aircraft can be re-installed on aircraft that are still in service.

 

These parts would become spare parts in effect, which allows the installation of non-original spare parts on Russian-operated foreign-made commercial aircraft without approval needed.

 

https://aviationsourcenews.com/analysis/rosaviatsia-approves-aircraft-cannibalization/

 

 

Punished By Western Sanctions, Russia's Airlines Are Showing More Cracks And More Problems

 

On January 9, a 4-year-old Airbus A320 operated by the Russian airline S7 was flying from the Siberian city of Bratsk to Moscow when it encountered a problem: Its toilet system malfunctioned. The flight was forced to divert to the city of Kazan for an unscheduled landing.

 

"If spare parts are used, but with resources and with a verifiable history, that’s also no big deal," he said. "We take a plane somewhere in Bolivia, Uganda, or [Burma], disassemble it, remove the necessary components, carefully pack it up and deliver it.

 

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-aviation-industry-problems-western-sanctions/32244641.html

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 8, 2023 by bamnutsak