Retirement visa, can you apply the year you turn 50 even if before birthday?

[TheLaughingMan]

Heard this rumour several times, that you can apply for retirement visa in the year you turn 50 even if its before your actual birthday.  Any truth this?

[Salerno]

19 minutes ago, TheLaughingMan said:

Any truth this?

I would say no, sounds like a barstool myth. Everything I have ever seen states 50+.

[markeewan]

No truth apparently.

 

1.1 Applicant must be aged 50 years and over (on the day of submitting application).

 

https://www.mfa.go.th/en/page/non-immigrant-visa-o-a?menu=5e1ff71bc4281a00c812e8e2

[marioc]

Around 12 years ago, I applied the same day of my birthday. They told me to come back the day after which I did and everything went fine. I could get my retirement visa 2 months later. This happened in Chiang Mai Immigration Office.
Regards.

[LivinLOS]

1 hour ago, marioc said:

Around 12 years ago, I applied the same day of my birthday. They told me to come back the day after which I did and everything went fine. I could get my retirement visa 2 months later. This happened in Chiang Mai Immigration Office.
Regards.

I thought retirement, unlike marriage, had no under review period ??? 

[DrJack54]

27 minutes ago, LivinLOS said:

I thought retirement, unlike marriage, had no under review period ??? 

He is just misusing few terms.

He obtained a non O retirement shortly after his 50 birthday and 2 months later obtained the 12 month extension.

 

Calling the 12 month extension "retirement visa" 

[marioc]

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

He is just misusing few terms.

He obtained a non O retirement shortly after his 50 birthday and 2 months later obtained the 12 month extension.

 

Calling the 12 month extension "retirement visa" 

Yes, sorry about that.
It went exactly as you described.

[JBChiangRai]

I applied on the Friday, my 50th birthday was on the Saturday.

 

I got my extension and a couple of hours later got a call from immigration telling me to come back for it to be canceled, they kept the money of course.  This was Jomtien, a good few years ago.

[DrJack54]

2 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

I applied on the Friday, my 50th birthday was on the Saturday.

 

I got my extension and a couple of hours later got a call from immigration telling me to come back for it to be canceled, they kept the money of course.  This was Jomtien, a good few years ago.

You would not have been obtaining an extension approx date of 50th birthday.

You would have been applying for non O retirement. 

[JBChiangRai]

23 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

You would not have been obtaining an extension approx date of 50th birthday.

You would have been applying for non O retirement. 

semantics

 

 

[DrJack54]

2 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

semantics

 

 

Not at all.

Folk ask about the process to non O and subsequent extension based on retirement or marriage from visa exempt/tourist visa daily.

Your post was not even close. 

 

Hardly semantics. 

[Lemsta69]

18 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

semantics

ignorance 

[BritTim]

6 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

You would not have been obtaining an extension approx date of 50th birthday.

You would have been applying for non O retirement. 

I was also suspicious of the post. However, it could be accurate. If previously on a Non Immigrant permission to stay for another reasons (such as marriage or working) it would be possible, albeit very rare, to apply for the retirement extension on your 50th birthday.

 

(Yes, applying for the "conversion" visa from a tourist (or visa exempt) entry would be more likely.)

[JBChiangRai]

12 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

I applied on the Friday, my 50th birthday was on the Saturday.

 

I got my extension and a couple of hours later got a call from immigration telling me to come back for it to be canceled, they kept the money of course.  This was Jomtien, a good few years ago.

From the Thai Immigration Government website

 

22. Visa Extension in the case of retirement

etc etc etc

 

I was previously on a non-immigrant visa issued by the Royal Thai Embassy in Hull (UK).

 

Actually, I went the Elite route (20 yr) almost 5 years ago because.

[novster]

Yes I am currently in Thailand on a Non Immigrant permission to stay based on education and turn 50 in May and so will look to convert immediately to a permission based on retirement (maybe not on my birthday mind). 
 

Whist here can I check my understanding that as it’s an extension I am applying for immigration will not want to see evidence that the THB800,000 came from overseas☺️?

[DrJack54]

1 hour ago, novster said:

Whist here can I check my understanding that as it’s an extension I am applying for immigration will not want to see evidence that the THB800,000 came from overseas☺️?

Extensions do not require proof funds came from abroad.

Only the non O retirement obtained in Thailand has that requirement. 

[novster]

Thank you Dr Jack 

[schvonsky1]

On 3/21/2023 at 2:42 AM, Salerno said:

I would say no, sounds like a barstool myth. Everything I have ever seen states 50+.

Nope not barstool <deleted> can apply once your 50 

[schvonsky1]

On 3/22/2023 at 6:12 AM, JBChiangRai said:

From the Thai Immigration Government website

 

22. Visa Extension in the case of retirement

etc etc etc

 

I was previously on a non-immigrant visa issued by the Royal Thai Embassy in Hull (UK).

 

Actually, I went the Elite route (20 yr) almost 5 years ago because.

Do you find the elite route was a good call 2mill for 20yrs quite steep 

if buy a condo in north Pattaya can get 20 yr for 600k baht ????

[JBChiangRai]

32 minutes ago, schvonsky1 said:

Do you find the elite route was a good call 2mill for 20yrs quite steep 

if buy a condo in north Pattaya can get 20 yr for 600k baht ????

It was 1 million for 20 years.

 

It's priceless for the peace of mind.  I don't have to worry about the overdue increase from the 65k/800k retirement method, or the turning up at immigration to find the rules have changed and I don't have the right papers or hadn't buried them in peat and recycled them as firelighters.

[DrJack54]

22 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

It was 1 million for 20 years.

Stick to the OP 

He did not ask about PE visa etc

[JBChiangRai]

9 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Stick to the OP 

He did not ask about PE visa etc

Oh dear…

 

I was answering a specific question which I quoted, as you well know. Are you trolling me? 

 

 

[FritsSikkink]

15 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

It was 1 million for 20 years.

 

It's priceless for the peace of mind.  I don't have to worry about the overdue increase from the 65k/800k retirement method, or the turning up at immigration to find the rules have changed and I don't have the right papers or hadn't buried them in peat and recycled them as firelighters.

You probably paid for 4 times 5 years. If the law changes during that time you might not get a couple extensions. 

[brianthainess]

On 3/21/2023 at 3:55 PM, LivinLOS said:

I thought retirement, unlike marriage, had no under review period ??? 

That is dependent on what province you live, they all have different quite legal rules.

[JBChiangRai]

57 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

You probably paid for 4 times 5 years. If the law changes during that time you might not get a couple extensions. 

Correct, it was for 4 lots of 5 years.