BREAKING: US base under attack by barrage of rockets after Biden launched series of retaliatory strikes

[farmerjo]

Can't those ISIS prisoners be transferred to American territory then leave?

[Dogsredrocket]

Oh fantastic! Surely the American vets on all the forums and facebook groups will be chomping at the bit to give us a run down on this and their involvement or lack thereof. Murricans love the opportunity to weave their service into a good yarn as if expats in Thailand care. 

 

This is genuine elder abuse. Joe should be comfortable in his own home <deleted>ting his britches instead of getting involved in such things.

[ThailandRyan]

9 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

What are you smoking? Biden sent us on this path to where they get the nukes. Biden has done so many things wrong since he has been in power, why can't you guys see this?

Did Trump close your eyes to what he was doing and did....you must have been asleep during his 4 years.

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Just now, vandeventer said:

What are you smoking? Biden sent us on this path to where they get the nukes. Biden has done so many things wrong since he has been in power, why can't you guys see this?

You clearly have no knowledge of the Iran nuclear deal framework. It was actually an amazing accomplishment of the Obama administration that got China and Russia on board as well as the EU.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_nuclear_deal_framework#:~:text=According to details of the,almost 20%2C000 centrifuges it possesses.

 

But then the Trump administration decided to withdraw from the agreement after at the urging of the Israelis and the Saudis and the UAE. And by the Trump administration I mean Jared Kushner. And not only did it decide to withdraw but it also made it virtually impossible for other countries to do business with Iran. So why wouldn't Iran push for nuclear weapons? As the situation in Ukraine has shown, nuclear weapons give a certain degree of security to a threatened nation.

 

 

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, farmerjo said:

Can't those ISIS prisoners be transferred to American territory then leave?

Yes but it was the Republicans who didn't want them on US territory, hence Guantanamo bay.

[Mac Mickmanus]

5 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Yes but it was the Republicans who didn't want them on US territory, hence Guantanamo bay.

What did Obama and Biden do to change that ?

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4 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

So Biden hasn't done anything to make the situation better ?

Like, did Biden send Kamala Harrris to Iran to find a peaceful solution or something ?

You must live in a some kind of information bubble not to know of the protracted and arduous attempts of the Biden administration to revive the agreement with the Iranians. Instead, all you've got to offer is baseless snark.

 

As I noted above, once the Trump administration withdrew from the agreement and waged economic warfare on the Iranians, it was a huge blessing for the Iranian hardliners who could point to the uselessness of negotiating. They raised their demands far beyond what they got in the original deal. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You must live in a some kind of information bubble not to know of the protracted and arduous attempts of the Biden administration to revive the agreement with the Iranians. Instead, all you've got to offer is baseless snark.

 

As I noted above, once the Trump administration withdrew from the agreement and waged economic warfare on the Iranians, it was a huge blessing for the Iranian hardliners who could point to the uselessness of negotiating. They raised their demands far beyond what they got in the original deal. 

So Biden hasn't managed to rectify the situation with Iran or come to any peace agreements with them ?

  (Naturally its all Trumps fault and the Iranians fault and nothing to do with Biden , that goes without saying )

[Dogsredrocket]

5 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Naturally its all Trumps fault and the Iranians fault and nothing to do with Biden , that goes without saying )

Orange man bad. So bad in fact he is living in heads rent free.

[ozimoron]

5 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

So Biden hasn't managed to rectify the situation with Iran or come to any peace agreements with them ?

  (Naturally its all Trumps fault and the Iranians fault and nothing to do with Biden , that goes without saying )

Biden doesn't want to reach a peace agreement with the Iranians. They are sending arms to Russia. It's notable that the far right is crickets on this issue. 

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6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

So Biden hasn't managed to rectify the situation with Iran or come to any peace agreements with them ?

  (Naturally its all Trumps fault and the Iranians fault and nothing to do with Biden , that goes without saying )

What do you suggest Biden do? Give in to the hardliners' demands? Do you think this is some kind of board game? Because of Trump, even worse people now have the upper hand in Iran. People who want nuclear weapons. Why should they seriously negotiate with the US? And given that Trump or someone very much like him could be the next president, who would truckle to the Israelis, Saudis, and the UAE, does it even make sense for them to negotiate?

[asf6]

Biden should instruct the uninvited, unwelcome, occupying US troops to leave Syria. 

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10 minutes ago, asf6 said:

Biden should instruct the uninvited, unwelcome, occupying US troops to leave Syria. 

You think they're unwelcome to the Kurds?

[asf6]

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You think they're unwelcome to the Kurds?

That's not really important. The Kurds do not represent the Syrian government. The American troops are there illegally. They should leave. 

Edited March 25, 2023 by asf6

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1 minute ago, asf6 said:

The Kurds do not represent the Syrian government. 

So we agree that the US forces aren't welcome to the Syrian govt.

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, asf6 said:

The Kurds do not represent the Syrian government. 

The Kurds fought with the US against ISIS. Trump betrayed them by leaving Syria. Obviously that situation has been reversed. 

[asf6]

Just now, ozimoron said:

The Kurds fought with the US against ISIS. Trump betrayed them by leaving Syria. Obviously that situation has been reversed. 

Did the Americans actually leave Syria 100%? 

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, asf6 said:

Did the Americans actually leave Syria 100%? 

I don't know if they all actually left but that's what the traitor in chief wanted.

 

Amid growing chaos in Syria, Donald Trump has ordered all US troops to withdraw from the country’s north to avoid a bloody conflict between Turkey and formerly US-backed Kurdish fighters that “gets worse by the hour”, the defense secretary, Mark Esper, said on Sunday.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/13/trump-us-troops-northern-syria-turkish-assault-kurds

 

 

[The Theory]

2 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

now you trying to sand bag us

Why I do that ? I have nothing  against nobody. This is politics. If you can see it. That's all. 
Game (war) of Middle East began in 70s, however it was really started after WWII. And things are not really the way people see. 
 

 

Edited March 25, 2023 by The Theory

[asf6]

10 minutes ago, The Theory said:

Why I do that ? I have nothing  against nobody. This is politics. If you can see it. That's all. 
Game (war) of Middle East began in 70s, however it was really started after WWII. 

The games in the Middle East started well before WWII. Think of the British and French mandates and the partition of the Ottoman Empire.

 

And of course, there was plenty of politics going on there before that. 

 

 

 

Edited March 25, 2023 by asf6

[KhunLA]

4 hours ago, The Theory said:

Another game begins:

staring: USA

co-star: Iran hard liners

More than 40 years of games since president "Carter" brought this gift to people of Iran and it continued by president "Reagan" , Bush , Obama and now, Biden. 

 

Need to go back a little be further .... and surprise surprise.

 

Another failed regime change orchestrated by UK & USA ... oops

And once again ... all about the oil

 

From, 'Shah of Iran' - wiki ...

" Following the 1950 Iranian legislative election, Mohammad Mosaddegh was appointed prime minister in 1951. He was committed to nationalising the Iranian petroleum industry controlled by the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC) (as Anglo-Persian Oil Company, or APOC, had become).[84] Under the leadership of Mosaddegh and his nationalist movement, the Iranian parliament unanimously voted to nationalise the oil industry—thus shutting out the immensely profitable AIOC, which was a pillar of Britain's economy and provided it political clout in the region.

 

At the start of the confrontation, American political sympathy was forthcoming from the Truman Administration.[86] In particular, Mosaddegh was buoyed by the advice and counsel he was receiving from the American Ambassador in Tehran, Henry F. Grady. However, eventually American decision-makers lost their patience, and by the time the Republican administration of President Dwight D. Eisenhower entered office, fears that communists were poised to overthrow the government became an all-consuming concern; these concerns were later dismissed as "paranoid" in retrospective commentary on the coup from U.S. government officials.

 

Shortly prior to the 1952 presidential election in the United States, the British government invited Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) officer Kermit Roosevelt Jr., to London to propose collaboration on a secret plan to force Mosaddegh from office. This would be the first of three "regime change" operations led by Allen Dulles (the other two being the successful CIA-instigated 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état and the failed Bay of Pigs Invasion of Cuba). ????

 

Under the direction of Kermit Roosevelt Jr., a senior CIA officer and grandson of former U.S. President Theodore Roosevelt, the American CIA and British Secret Intelligence Service (SIS) funded and led a covert operation to depose Mosaddegh with the help of military forces disloyal to the government. Referred to as Operation Ajax, the plot hinged on orders signed by Mohammad Reza to dismiss Mosaddegh as prime minister and replace him with General Fazlollah Zahedi, a choice agreed on by the British and Americans.

 

Despite the high-level coordination and planning, the coup initially failed, causing the Shah to flee to Baghdad, and then to Rome. "

[mania]

5 hours ago, Tug said:

You remember isis don’t you those are the religious nutters that kill and rape anyone who doesn’t belive exactly as they do hope that helps to jog your memory 

Classic warmongering

Ah right...So if another country wants to set up a base in the USA because they know for certain there are terrorist living there (even have WMD's ???? ) & they want to bomb them out of existence that is fine then right?

 

[tgw]

17 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Classic armchair remark.

but still correct.

Quote

barrage (military) : the firing of artillery to saturate an area, either to protect against an attack or to support an advance.

can't achieve that with 7 rockets.

 

the meaning of words is important.

social media will be the death of language.

[heybruce]

8 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Why is USA still there ... or anywhere ?

Because the first half of the 20th century taught the US that isolationism doesn't work.

[heybruce]

6 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

What has Biden done to change that ?

Trump taught Iran and the rest of the world that the US can't be trusted.  Fixing that takes time.

[Mac Mickmanus]

47 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Trump taught Iran and the rest of the world that the US can't be trusted.  Fixing that takes time.

Once again, its Trumps fault that Biden has failed in his tasks.

So basically, Biden is absolutely  perfect in everything he does and anytime Biden isn't absolutely perfect, its Trumps fault   

[heybruce]

51 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Once again, its Trumps fault that Biden has failed in his tasks.

So basically, Biden is absolutely  perfect in everything he does and anytime Biden isn't absolutely perfect, its Trumps fault   

How has Biden failed?  Relations with Iran are no worse than when Trump left office, and relations with most of the world are much better.

 

I merely pointed out the obvious fact that the trust Trump destroyed will take a long time to repair.

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, heybruce said:

How has Biden failed?  Relations with Iran are no worse than when Trump left office, and relations with most of the world are much better.

 

I merely pointed out the obvious fact that the trust Trump destroyed will take a long time to repair.

Yeah , Trump destroyed that close loving relationship the USA and Iran had prior to him being President................................... 

[vandeventer]

8 hours ago, placeholder said:

You clearly have no knowledge of the Iran nuclear deal framework. It was actually an amazing accomplishment of the Obama administration that got China and Russia on board as well as the EU.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_nuclear_deal_framework#:~:text=According to details of the,almost 20%2C000 centrifuges it possesses.

 

But then the Trump administration decided to withdraw from the agreement after at the urging of the Israelis and the Saudis and the UAE. And by the Trump administration I mean Jared Kushner. And not only did it decide to withdraw but it also made it virtually impossible for other countries to do business with Iran. So why wouldn't Iran push for nuclear weapons? As the situation in Ukraine has shown, nuclear weapons give a certain degree of security to a threatened nation.

 

 

Trump put a end to this crazy deal Obama made because it was going nowhere. And look at Iran now, days away from having the nukes. Some countries you just can't trust with deals. Like the Russian USA, UK deal, when Ukraine gave it's nukes to Russia not to invade Ukraine? Down the same rabbit hole. 

[SunnyinBangrak]

1 hour ago, heybruce said:

How has Biden failed?  Relations with Iran are no worse than when Trump left office, and relations with most of the world are much better.

 

I merely pointed out the obvious fact that the trust Trump destroyed will take a long time to repair.

Relations of much of the world are better? What??

 

 Trump was a master at negotiating with America's enemies and ending the spats that existed for generations. Do you not remember when he walked with Kim across the Korean border like old friends? You may have been busy with the online bullying and mass pile on with the "he'll be in jail tomorrow" narrative that the MSM were going all in with at the time - likely trying to distract from and diminish his accomplishments. But it was an absolutely incredible achievement - worthy of a dozen Nobel peace prizes. And the Middle east, their export ISIS seemingly about to conquer Europe. How many days after Trump's Presidency started did we stop hearing about those thugs?

 Now we are teetering on the precipice of a nuclear world war 3. War with Russia is not an achievement! I think you will also remember when you guys spent years accusing peace-monger Trump of probably starting World War 3. How did that work out for you?