New passport and renewal of permission of stay due

[RafPinto]

Hi guys,

 

Another question.

 

Received a new passport as my old one is only valid until end of may. Same day, my Non-immigrant OA also expires.
Should I go first go to immigration and transfer visa from old to new passport or can this be done on the same day.

If I am not wrong, Non O-A renewal can be processed 6 weeks before expiry.

Can transfer of visa from old to new passport and renewal of O-A be done on the same day.

 

Thanks

[brianthainess]

8 minutes ago, RafPinto said:

If I am not wrong, Non O-A renewal can be processed 6 weeks before expiry.

Some only 4week before. As with all immigration questions WHAT OFFICE !

Edited April 12, 2023 by brianthainess

[RafPinto]

1 minute ago, brianthainess said:

Some only 4week before. As with all immigration questions WHAT OFFICE !

CW

[Lucky Bones]

3 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

Some only 4week before. As with all immigration questions WHAT OFFICE !

....or what officer on any given day?????????

[brianthainess]

I wouldn't leave it to the same day, you might be asked for more documents then you'd be stuffed. You could ring CW IO if its 6week or 4.

[brianthainess]

6 minutes ago, Lucky Bones said:

....or what officer on any given day?????????

I do like posting this from Trat office.

up to them init.

Edited April 12, 2023 by brianthainess

[Lucky Bones]

3 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

I do like posting this from Trat office.

up to them init.

Nailed it.????????

[DrJack54]

1 hour ago, RafPinto said:

Should I go first go to immigration and transfer visa from old to new passport or can this be done on the same day.

You can have Stamps transferred same visit as obtaining extension.

 

CW you can apply for extension up to 45 days early..

 

Pretty sure the transfer of stamps etc is done at the extension desks (L desks) so you can make an appointment for extension and they will do it same desk.

Don't forget letter from embassy, if your embassy provides one.

Also notify your bank of change of pp number. 

 

BTW:if you had valid non O-A you could exit and reenter and be given a 12 month stamp.

Thinking you are on extensions.

 

Regarding the transfer, the visa will not be transferred just information regarding the visa is transferred. 

Edited April 12, 2023 by DrJack54

[expat_4_life]

3 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Pretty sure the transfer of stamps etc is done at the extension desks (L desks) so you can make an appointment for extension and they will do it same desk.

 

This is how I remember it several years ago, in 2019. Had renewed passport as extension was due, got extension/stamp transfer done by the same IO at the "L" desk in Chaeng Wattana at the same time.

Edited April 12, 2023 by expat_4_life

[lungbing]

I did my passport change just two days ago.  The only thing that caught me out was I need a copy of every page of the old passport.  Straightforward and no fee.  Ten years ago 200 baht was asked for.

[DrJack54]

27 minutes ago, lungbing said:

The only thing that caught me out was I need a copy of every page of the old passport.

Which immigration office? 

[CMBob]

12 hours ago, lungbing said:

I did my passport change just two days ago.  The only thing that caught me out was I need a copy of every page of the old passport.  Straightforward and no fee.  Ten years ago 200 baht was asked for.

Had stamps transferred to a new passport 3 months ago here in Chiangmai.  Besides a copy of the new passport photo page and a filled-out "Transfer Stamp to New Passport Form", they also wanted a copy of every page of the old passport (in my case, every page including stamps from other countries).  Was quick and easy and there was no fee.

[CapraIbex]

19 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

You can have Stamps transferred same visit as obtaining extension.

Pretty sure the transfer of stamps etc is done at the extension desks

I am expecting a new Australian passport early/mid May '23.

My Non-Immigrant 'O' visa extension based on retirement is due to be renewed 20 October 2023 at the Jomtien Immigration Office.  IIRC, the officers at counter #8 are in charge for renewal of visa extensions. I generally apply for a new extension 4 weeks before due date.

Considering the time span, is it advisable for having the relevant visa details transferred from the cancelled passport to the new one before applying for a new extension and, if so, which is the appropriate counter to go to and what paperwork/form needs to be completed?

Or is it okay to wait (4 months) until 20 September '23 requesting the immigration officer at counter #8 to transfer the visa details from cancelled to new p/port at the same time when submitting my application for a new visa extension.

 

[DrJack54]

@CapraIbex

First up there is no time limit apart from doing the transfer of stamps prior to immigration doing the extension.

Can be done on same visit.

 

However in the past sometimes Jomtien made you come back at certain time such as "come back after 3pm" or " come back tomorrow"

 

My advice would be to do the transfer early doors as to not complicate the extension process. 

Edited April 13, 2023 by DrJack54

[CapraIbex]

2 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

@CapraIbex

First up there is no time limit apart from doing the transfer of stamps prior to immigration doing the extension.

Can be done on same visit.

 

However in the past sometimes Jomtien made you come back at certain time such as "come back after 3pm" or " come back tomorrow"

 

My advice would be to do the transfer early doors as to not complicate the extension process. 

Thanks Dr Jack,

I'll be guided accordingly.

[daejung]

23 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Don't forget letter from embassy, if your embassy provides one.

What about if you got your new passport in your country and not at your embassy in Bangkok ? I your country they will not give you any letter.

[DrJack54]

14 minutes ago, daejung said:

What about if you got your new passport in your country and not at your embassy in Bangkok ? I your country they will not give you any letter.

Pretty sure only required if you obtain pp renewal in Thailand. 

There is also a form from immigration available.

Think it's #22

 

 https://www.immigration.go.th/en/?page_id=3202 

 

 

Edited April 13, 2023 by DrJack54

[CapraIbex]

20 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Pretty sure only required if you obtain pp renewal in Thailand.

I'm sure reading somewhere in this forum that the Australian Embassy in Bangkok don't issue a 'letter' anymore - they now will stamp one of the (new) passport pages requesting the Immigration office to transfer relevant visa details from the cancelled passport to the new one. Can you confirm this, please.

[DrJack54]

21 minutes ago, CapraIbex said:

I'm sure reading somewhere in this forum that the Australian Embassy in Bangkok don't issue a 'letter' anymore - they now will stamp one of the (new) passport pages requesting the Immigration office to transfer relevant visa details from the cancelled passport to the new one. Can you confirm this, please.

That is correct.

That is basically what I have posted in earlier threads.

No sure when they stopped.

 

There is current thread just started now stating that USA will also stop providing the letter.

 

Unrelated but be aware that Oz embassy in Bangkok also do not provide letter that can be used in lieu of certificate of residence. 

 

 

Edited April 13, 2023 by DrJack54

[Lucky Bones]

3 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

That is correct.

 

The Aus embassy no longer issues these letters.

It certainly was not known by the IO 12 months ago.

Has it now been understood?????????

 

[ripstanley]

I renewed my Aus passport in 2016 at the embassy and received a stamp in the passport.  I had to complete the details when my new passport arrived.

[DrJack54]

2 minutes ago, Lucky Bones said:

The Aus embassy no longer issues these letters.

It certainly was not known by the IO 12 months ago.

Has it now been understood?????????

 

The immigration office/officer was wrong.

Oz embassy has not issued letter for several years. 

[Lucky Bones]

Just now, ripstanley said:

I renewed my Aus passport in 2016 at the embassy and received a stamp in the passport.  I had to complete the details when my new passport arrived.

Correct. But not sure if IO's know this.

They love to see a letter which they can immediately photocopy 3 times and ask you to sign.????????

[ripstanley]

2 minutes ago, Lucky Bones said:

The Aus embassy no longer issues these letters.

It certainly was not known by the IO 12 months ago.

Has it now been understood?????????

 

I took my new passport and old passport with the stamp in it to Chiang Rai in 2016 and they had no problem transferring the details over.

[Lucky Bones]

1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

The immigration office/officer was wrong.

Oz embassy has not issued letter for several years. 

Yes. Totally agreed. But who is going to win any discussion/argument that arises in a IO? Certainly not you or me.

Treated as criminals every year.????????

[DrJack54]

4 minutes ago, Lucky Bones said:

 

Treated as criminals every year.????????

Sadly often that's true.

I'm Oz and embassy will not be providing "letter".

I am obtaining new pp this year.

This link has a form that I will take along as a back up.

It's #22 on the immigration list of forms 

 

https://www.immigration.go.th/en/?page_id=3202

 

Edited April 13, 2023 by DrJack54

[Lucky Bones]

8 minutes ago, ripstanley said:

I took my new passport and old passport with the stamp in it to Chiang Rai in 2016 and they had no problem transferring the details over.

Yup. As I say, it all depends on the day.

I always attend sober, dressed well and am polite.

But they just make the rules up.

First issue/problems in 10 years.

Guess he had a bad day.

Never take anything for granted at the IO.????????

[Lucky Bones]

4 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Sadly often that's true.

Sigh????????

[Lucky Bones]

11 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Sadly often that's true.

I'm Oz and embassy will not be providing "letter".

I am obtaining new pp this year.

This link has a form that I will take along as a back up.

It's #22 on the immigration list of forms 

 

https://www.immigration.go.th/en/?page_id=3202

 

Don't forget to photograph/or photocopy the Embassy receipt.

It may or may not help.????????

Edited April 13, 2023 by Lucky Bones

[norbra]

2 hours ago, daejung said:

What about if you got your new passport in your country and not at your embassy in Bangkok ? I your country they will not give you any letter.

You will have an arrival stamp in your new passport, all that is needed.