onthedarkside Posted April 14, 2023 Posted April 14, 2023 Florida Republicans are pushing forward a bill that seeks to ban drag shows from allowing someone under the age of 18 to be in attendance. But the bill is so vaguely worded, using the term “adult live performance,” that even Republican lawmakers have admitted it would prevent a high school kid from watching The Rocky Horror Picture Show or even the musical Hair. The bill also explicitly targets Pride parades and celebrations, by preventing a government entity from issuing permits to an organization that may put on such a performance. https://newrepublic.com/post/171638/floridas-anti-drag-bill-extreme-ban-rocky-horror-picture-show-hair-musical
bamnutsak Posted April 14, 2023 Posted April 14, 2023 I would think "Some Like It Hot" would be banned? And "As You Like It"? And all of these TV shows featuring drag competitions should be banned too? It's all about "protecting the children". Yo La Tengo Dress in Drag at Nashville Show to Protest Tennessee’s Law Restricting Drag Performances https://www.billboard.com/music/rock/yo-la-tengo-dress-drag-nashville-show-protest-tennessee-law-drag-performances-1235286414/ 1
heybruce Posted April 14, 2023 Posted April 14, 2023 I assume old videos of Milton Berle and Flip Wilson, comedians who frequently dressed in drag during their comedy sketches, would also be banned.
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted April 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 15, 2023 19 hours ago, bamnutsak said: It's all about "protecting the children". It seems some left radicals want drag shows for kids, inside schools. And lots of people, including lots of concerned parents, don't like that. And then the politicians on the right make laws to regulate this, and maybe they overdue it a little. Personally I am no fan of the radical right. But I am also no fan of the radical left. As far as I know there was a time when adults could look at drag shows, but people wouldn't take their kids to those events. And now it seems some schools force kids to attend those events - at least that is what I see on YouTube. Nobody should be surprised that there is a backlash against current radical left agenda. 6 1
Popular Post Skipalongcassidy Posted April 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 15, 2023 Let them have their drag shows... but stop forcing people (young students in this case) to accept them as "normal" or to attend them... the liberal left has no ethical or moral guidance system and are continuously confused when others reject their behavior... the conservative right only reacts instead of being proactive. 2 1 1
thaibeachlovers Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 19 hours ago, onthedarkside said: or even the musical Hair. I saw that but don't remember any "drag" show in it. Did it have such?
Popular Post Berkshire Posted April 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said: Let them have their drag shows... but stop forcing people (young students in this case) to accept them as "normal" or to attend them... the liberal left has no ethical or moral guidance system and are continuously confused when others reject their behavior... the conservative right only reacts instead of being proactive. I saw the Rocky Horror Picture Show as a young student. It didn't make me want to put on a dress, nor did it turn me gay. Just sayin..... 1 2 1
Popular Post bamnutsak Posted April 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 15, 2023 4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: And now it seems some schools force kids to attend those events - at least that is what I see on YouTube. Would be aswesome if you could share which schools in Florida have mandatory drag-show attendance. 4 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said: but stop forcing people (young students in this case) to accept them as "normal" or to attend them... Same for you. And if you can detail how "they" are "forcing" people to "accept them as normal", that would be awesome too. Florida already has laws protecting children from live, adult-oriented entertainment. This could be why you don't see a lot of kids in Florida's hundreds of strip clubs. As an aside, Florida strip-club owners are lobbying the legislature to lower the age for performers from 21 to 18. CS/HB 1423: Protection of Children GENERAL BILL by State Administration & Technology Appropriations Subcommittee ; Fine ; (CO-INTRODUCERS) Black ; Plakon ; Sirois Protection of Children; Prohibits governmental entity from issuing permit or otherwise authorizing person to conduct performance in violation of certain provisions; authorizes Division of Hotels & Restaurants of DBPR to fine, suspend, or revoke license of any public lodging establishment or public food service establishment if establishment admits child to adult live performance; provides violation constitutes immediate serious danger to public health, safety, or welfare; authorizes division to impose specified fines for violations; specifies division may revoke or suspend license of person found to be maintaining licensed premises that admits child to adult live performance; prohibits person from knowingly admitting child to adult live performance. https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2023/1423/BillText/c1/PDF 2 hours ago, Berkshire said: I saw the Rocky Horror Picture Show as a young student. It didn't make me want to put on a dress, nor did it turn me gay. Just sayin..... The larger issue with RHPS would be the audience participation, and not having any men dressed as Dr. Frank-N-Furter. 4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: Nobody should be surprised that there is a backlash against current radical left agenda. So drag-shows are part of the radical left "agenda"? I honestly was not aware of this factoid. How did you learn about this "agenda"? Can you share more details? 4 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said: the liberal left has no ethical or moral guidance system and are continuously confused when others reject their behavior This is a bold opinion. Is the "liberal left" the same as the "radical left"? And any examples of this "continuous confusuion"? It is interesting that the radical right-wing is so supportive of the government telling citizens what freedoms are allowed. Not so long ago they would be fighting for less government intervention, and more personal responsibility.. If only we could figure out a way to protect children from the number one cause of death. Hint: it's not drag-show story hour. 2 2 4 1
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted April 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 15, 2023 13 minutes ago, bamnutsak said: Would be aswesome if you could share which schools in Florida have mandatory drag-show attendance. I am sure you can go to YouTube and enter the words in the search field. Just do it! I know that normal people have difficulties to believe what happens, I also had difficulties to believe it. But it seems it does happen. 2 1 1 2
Popular Post ozimoron Posted April 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: I am sure you can go to YouTube and enter the words in the search field. Just do it! I know that normal people have difficulties to believe what happens, I also had difficulties to believe it. But it seems it does happen. I did better than that. I asked our very own ChatGPT service using exactly your words and this is what it said: As far as I know, there are no schools in Florida that have mandatory drag-show attendance. However, some universities in Florida, such as the University of South Florida and Florida International University, offer drag shows as a part of their campus culture and entertainment events. These shows are usually optional and open to all students who wish to attend. 4 1
Popular Post placeholder Posted April 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 15, 2023 5 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: It seems some left radicals want drag shows for kids, inside schools. And lots of people, including lots of concerned parents, don't like that. And then the politicians on the right make laws to regulate this, and maybe they overdue it a little. Personally I am no fan of the radical right. But I am also no fan of the radical left. As far as I know there was a time when adults could look at drag shows, but people wouldn't take their kids to those events. And now it seems some schools force kids to attend those events - at least that is what I see on YouTube. Nobody should be surprised that there is a backlash against current radical left agenda. "at least that is what I see on YouTube." Is that all you've got? And you think the state should decide whether parents can take kids to those events? 3 1 1
Skipalongcassidy Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 On 4/14/2023 at 11:53 AM, heybruce said: I assume old videos of Milton Berle and Flip Wilson, comedians who frequently dressed in drag during their comedy sketches, would also be banned. From schools... I would hope so 2 1
placeholder Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said: From schools... I would hope so Is that because you think that they are too risqué?
Popular Post MrJ2U Posted April 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 15, 2023 The US Republicans have turned into a modern Spanish Inquisition. 1 3
Popular Post Skipalongcassidy Posted April 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 15, 2023 1 minute ago, placeholder said: Is that because you think that they are too risqué? No... it's that the schools are lacking in appropriate means to insure that what is presented to and taken in by young people is relevant to their ability to discern ALL aspects of it. 3
Skipalongcassidy Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 1 hour ago, placeholder said: "at least that is what I see on YouTube." Is that all you've got? And you think the state should decide whether parents can take kids to those events? If the parents and schools are failing... which they are 1
placeholder Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 Just now, Skipalongcassidy said: If the parents and schools are failing... which they are Are they? Got some evidence for that? It is true that Florida does have a shortage of teachers but that's because they pay them so little. I believe 48th in the nation. 2
Skipalongcassidy Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, placeholder said: Are they? Got some evidence for that? It is true that Florida does have a shortage of teachers but that's because they pay them so little. I believe 48th in the nation. Had the opportunity to play a game of trivial pursuit recently that was hosted by a young lady with a brand new diploma from our local high school... she could not even read coherently from the boxtop. 1
Popular Post candide Posted April 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 15, 2023 2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: I am sure you can go to YouTube and enter the words in the search field. Just do it! I know that normal people have difficulties to believe what happens, I also had difficulties to believe it. But it seems it does happen. I just had a look, and the only thing I found was a drag queen reading children books in libraries. Nothing offending in reading books. And of course, children were surely not compelled to attend, contrary to some poster's lame claims. 2 1
still kicking Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 5 hours ago, Berkshire said: I saw the Rocky Horror Picture Show as a young student. It didn't make me want to put on a dress, nor did it turn me gay. Just sayin..... Yes, I got sexually abused twice when I was young, and I did not become a rapist either.
Popular Post placeholder Posted April 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 15, 2023 5 hours ago, Berkshire said: I saw the Rocky Horror Picture Show as a young student. It didn't make me want to put on a dress, nor did it turn me gay. Just sayin..... I actually watched the Rocky Horror Picture Show 3 times in the hope that it would turn me gay. I want my money back. 5
Popular Post ozimoron Posted April 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 15, 2023 18 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: Depends on who reads those books. Is it not good enough if normal male or female people read those books? Is it somehow better if a freak reads them? Sexuality has been a spectrum since Adam and Eve. As such they are "normal" and not "freaks". Don't make homophobic comments. 3
heybruce Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said: From schools... I would hope so Really? Old Milton Berle comedy routines should be banned from schools? It seems what was considered family entertainment and good fun in the 1950's is too radical for modern conservatives. 1
placeholder Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 28 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: I mentioned earlier already, I won't look them up for you. And if I would look for them, I would certainly not publish them. From the landing page of the World News forum. "Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source." And you wouldn't publish them here? Do you thinkk the members of aseannow.com need protection also?
onthedarkside Posted April 15, 2023 Author Posted April 15, 2023 Reported post and replies removed: 15. You will not discriminate or post slurs, degrading or overly negative comments on the basis of race, gender, age, religion, ethnicity, nationality, disability, medical history, marriage, civil partnership, pregnancy, maternity, paternity, gender identity, sexual orientation or any other irrelevant factor.
Emster23 Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 2 hours ago, MrJ2U said: The US Republicans have turned into a modern Spanish Inquisition. Which led me to thought "there goes Monty Python"..... 1 1
Popular Post placeholder Posted April 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said: No... it's that the schools are lacking in appropriate means to insure that what is presented to and taken in by young people is relevant to their ability to discern ALL aspects of it. You mean what was once family entertainment in the 50's and 60's is now too risqué for these chaste times? Are you living in an alternative universe? 4 2
bamnutsak Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 A Florida Republican who sponsored an anti-drag bill 'can't answer' whether his wife's charity event featuring 'sultry performers' would be criminalized under his own law A Florida Republican couldn't say whether his wife's charity event would flout his anti-drag bill. The wife of Rep. Randy Fine is hosting a gala featuring "sultry performers," and kids have attended in the past. Rep. Fine told Insider that he doesn't believe children should be invited to such events. https://www.businessinsider.com/florida-republicans-wifes-charity-event-flout-anti-drag-law-2023-4
Berkshire Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 16 hours ago, still kicking said: Yes, I got sexually abused twice when I was young, and I did not become a rapist either. Are you equating a drag show with being sexually abused? I doubt that you intended to minimize what happened to you, but that's exactly what you're doing. 1 1
bamnutsak Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 There are public nude beaches in Florida, where parents can, and do, bring their children. Strange that this hasn't been banned, I mean, you know, to "protect the children". 1
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