Bangkok -- 8,000+ tons a day of garbage!

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8 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I think Bangkok has about 2.24 times the population of Berlin, and generates about 2.16 times as much garbage...

So more or less the same....And Germany pretending to be world champion in avoiding trash...

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

23 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I think New York City has about 2.4 times the population of Bangkok and generates about 5 times as much garbage...

The BMA has a population of about 11 million and at 8,000 tons per day, that would mean about 29 million tons of garbage per year. So 2.6 tons per person per year on average.

 

New York City, with a population of 8.8 million, says it generates about 14 million tons of garbage per year. So about 1.7 tons per person per year on average.

 

https://www.nyc.gov/site/sustainability/codes/waste.page

 

But a lot of that waste isn't only generated from households, but instead, also comes from commercial and industrial sources, including things like the rubble created when demolishing old buildings to develop new ones.

 

I'm not sure if there's a good, accurate way of measuring strictly household waste production from one place to another.

 

Edited May 8, 2023 by TallGuyJohninBKK

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1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

The BMA has a population of about 11 million and at 8,000 tons per day, that would mean about 29 million tons of garbage per year. So 2.6 tons per person per year on average.

 

New York City, with a population of 8.8 million, says it generates about 14 million tons of garbage per year. So about 1.7 tons per person per year on average.

 

https://www.nyc.gov/site/sustainability/codes/waste.page

 

But a lot of that waste isn't only generated from households, but instead, also comes from commercial and industrials sources, including things like the rubble created when demolishing old buildings to develop new ones.

 

 

 

And no one really knows how many people are there really in Bangkok

[stoner]

we need a carbon nanotube elevator into earths orbit. then we can ship all the garbage and nuclear waste into space. load it onto rockets and shoot it into the sun. 

 

problem solved. 

 

could start mining space and polluting our solar system as well. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

8 minutes ago, stoner said:

we need a carbon nanotube elevator into earths orbit. then we can ship all the garbage and nuclear waste into space. load it onto rockets and shoot it into the sun. 

 

problem solved. 

 

could start mining space and polluting our solar system as well. 

 

Thailand needs some trash solutions for the future... Their preliminary efforts at environmentally safe garbage incineration haven't gone very well, just like they have problems maintaining and running sophisticated sewage treatment plans without ending up a mess.

 

According to some past studies on the topic, much of the garbage disposal in Thailand simply involves dumping it into huge open pits at locales throughout the country without any environmental controls or safeguards.

 

 

 

Edited May 8, 2023 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[stoner]

8 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

According to some past studies on the topic, much of the garbage disposal in Thailand simply involves dumping it into huge open pits at locales throughout the country without any environmental controls or safeguards.

don't forget the daily burning. it must account for a good percentage. would be difficult to measure.  

[Yellowtail]

55 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

The BMA has a population of about 11 million and at 8,000 tons per day, that would mean about 29 million tons of garbage per year. So 2.6 tons per person per year on average.

 

New York City, with a population of 8.8 million, says it generates about 14 million tons of garbage per year. So about 1.7 tons per person per year on average.

 

https://www.nyc.gov/site/sustainability/codes/waste.page

 

But a lot of that waste isn't only generated from households, but instead, also comes from commercial and industrial sources, including things like the rubble created when demolishing old buildings to develop new ones.

 

I'm not sure if there's a good, accurate way of measuring strictly household waste production from one place to another.

 

 

 

NYC Needs Common Sense Waste Management Now - New York League of Conservation Voters (nylcv.org)

[Polar Bear]

I lived in Hino, Japan for a while. The recycling system there was insane. Everything was colour-coded, and there was a corresponding calendar showing what was to be put out each day, but the calendar was black and white and the print was tiny, so it was near impossible to know what everything was. There were collections 4 or 5 days a week. Garbage was once a week. All the others were recycling. One day would be one type of paper. the following week a different type of paper, light cardboard, heavy cardboard, different types of plastic, different types of glass, different types of metal, different types of lightbulbs. They all got collected on different days, and they had to go out on the right day in the right coloured bag (which had to be bought specifically, and they were priced according to size.) 

The block manager would go through everything that was put out, garbage, recycling, everything. If you got something wrong, he would dump everything back on your doorstep. If he couldn't tell whose it was, he emptied it into a box, and left it out with a note. If you didn't claim it in 24 hours he checked the CCTV and tracked you down that way instead. 

After a few months of getting it wrong most of the time, it got so that I would only leave out garbage and plastic bottles. Everything else I took out with me and left in the bins outside 7-11 or Watson. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Remembered reading this from Bloomberg late last year -- a good reminder that even recycling in Thailand has its own risks and hazards:

 

Thailand Is Tired of the Noxious Fumes From Recycling Your Trash

The plastic industry says recycling is the solution to reducing waste. But in Thailand, where much of the world’s trash ends up, it’s created a new set of problems.

...

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In its general outlines the process sounds harmless, even virtuous, putting plastic waste to good use instead of sending it to one of Thailand’s many landfills. 

 

Beginning in late 2020, Jiaramankong learned that the truth was more complicated. He and his wife noticed an acrid smell that drifted across their front yard and into the house, infiltrating every room. They started to get headaches and felt their skin getting irritated, with Jiaramankong developing a red, itchy patch just below his nostrils. In the mornings, he would sometimes find pigeons lying immobile outside, dead or obviously very ill."

 

(more)

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2022-thailand-plastic-waste-recycling-import-ban/

 

[thailand49]

Like most things and departments this case BMA,  guy most likely was in his office picked up a magazine or playing with his phone saw these colorful bins aside from ordering them didn't really have a clue other than that.  As noted by another poster it seems to only be for show in main area particular where there is a lot of tourist, then you got picks up not everyday, when they do undo the sorting by the bins by mixing it up during pick,  then goes to an area just a big <deleted> hole no recycle center. It is all smoke and mirrors. 

[Cake Monster]

20 hours ago, steven100 said:

has anyone ever had the terrible misfortune of walking behind a Soi garbage truck for couple of hundred meters?    they are the most disgusting smelly trucks you could ever encounter .... 

We will all have to start putting some Perfume in our Trash for your benefit.

Would anybody expect anything other than smelly Trash collection Trucks in 30 Deg Heat ?

[Will B Good]

19 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

BMA claims to do a pretty good job of collecting most of the garbage generated here.... I'm guessing, a far greater percentage than most other provinces...

 

To be fair the refuse collectors seem to work extremely hard in BKK.......but they are totally up against it with burst bags, rubbish tipped loose, bins overflowing.

Edited May 9, 2023 by Will B Good

[Yellowtail]

2 hours ago, Will B Good said:

To be fair the refuse collectors seem to work extremely hard in BKK.......but they are totally up against it with burst bags, rubbish tipped loose, bins overflowing.

They do a great job for us.

[UKJASE]

our recycling business near us will take glass bottles, metal, plastic bottles, and has now started accepting plastic bags to recycle

 

we even get a little bit of money for collecting it all together and taking it to them.  plus they give us large sacks to collect everything in, each time we drop off

 

luckily our house has a laundry room so we can use that as a recycle collction area, and drop stuff off every month or two

 

we also compost all our veg and fruit peel into the garden

 

it has helped cut down our waste by a fair bit, but we still must dump a fair bit of refuse every day

[JimTripper]

Where I am I don’t even bother to separate the recyclables. Whatever i put in the bin is rummaged through each night. I can hear someone taking the glass and plastic out each night.