Bangkok Hospital Dental Care

[h90]

My usual dentist went to Bangkok Hospital.

I went on their webpage and it looks like out of a SciFi movie. I read the google reviews about the complete hospital (not only dentist) and they were pretty bad, many called them scam and money making.
Now I wonder if I should go there...it is just for a dental cleaning.

Anyone know their dental department? Good/Bad? Expensive?

[MJCM]

Withdrawn I guess he means the one in Bangkok

Edited May 16, 2023 by MJCM

[h90]

6 minutes ago, MJCM said:

Withdrawn I guess he means the one in Bangkok

Yes Bangkok...they gave me this:

BHQ Dental Center 

Dental Department (2nd Floor, N Building)

 

I didn't know that there is a Bangkok Hospital outside Bangkok....(But googled it, now I know)

[paddypower]

which of the 2 intl do you mean? i find it confusing; one is Bangkok Phuket Intl; the other is Bangkok Intl Hosp. weird that they have left the names so similar after Phuket Intl got taken over by the cookie monster, only experience with the BPI was aweful. after spending a lot of money on crowns and bridges and not being satisfied - we found out that the dental clinic is totally separate from the hospital (despite the billings using their name).  Our recommendation is the Mission hospital . Small, so maybe a bit of a wait. but worth it. IM sure you can book a time, these days. The male dentist there- he has a clinic in Talang. Excellent work by this fellow.

[The Fugitive]

1 minute ago, h90 said:

Yes Bangkok...they gave me this:

BHQ Dental Center 

Dental Department (2nd Floor, N Building)

 

I didn't know that there is a Bangkok Hospital outside Bangkok....(But googled it, now I know)

Very impressive! https://www.bangkokhospital.com/en/center-clinic/dental-care/bangkok-hospital-dental-center?info=overview

 

[Sheryl]

OP please indicate which "Bangkok Hospital" you mean. There are several.

 

People tend to only post online reviews when they are dissatisified...so you will find negative things posted for every possible source of care. In many cases the issue was due to one specific doctor or staff member.  All hospitals have both good and not-so-good doctors.  In other cases the issue is that people expected a lower cost than they got, and many foreigners have unrealistic ideas about health and dental care costs (both in Thailand and in general, i.e. they come from places where they don't pay anything at the point of care and wrongly assume therefore that it costs next to nothing to provide).

 

All that said, hospital dental departments typically charge more than dental clinics and unless you are having something done that needs (or you want) general anesthesia there is no particular advantage to a hospital vs a dental clinic.

 

 

[Sheryl]

Just now, paddypower said:

which of the 2 intl do you mean? i find it confusing; one is Bangkok Phuket Intl; the other is Bangkok Intl Hosp. weird that they have left the names so similar after Phuket Intl got taken over by the cookie monster, only experience with the BPI was aweful. after spending a lot of money on crowns and bridges and not being satisfied - we found out that the dental clinic is totally separate from the hospital (despite the billings using their name).  Our recommendation is the Mission hospital . Small, so maybe a bit of a wait. but worth it. IM sure you can book a time, these days. The male dentist there- he has a clinic in Talang. Excellent work by this fellow.

there are numerous "Bangkok Hospitals" in multiple provinces of which Phuket is just one.  But he seems to have clarified that he means Bangkok Hospital in Bangkok.

[MJCM]

6 minutes ago, paddypower said:

which of the 2 intl do you mean? i find it confusing; one is Bangkok Phuket Intl; the other is Bangkok Intl Hosp.

Or Bangkok Hospital Pattaya

or Bangkok Hospital Korat

or Bangkok Hospital Khon Kaen

 

etc etc etc 

[Sheryl]

@h90

 

Now that we know you are in Bangkok:

 

First of all, do not be put off by what you read online.  For the reasons i explained you'll find that for everyplace. If you have specific reasons for using that hospital (location, combining it with other visits etc) and are OK with the prices then carry on.

 

You can get a competent cleaning at BH.

 

You can also get it, probably at less cost, at many dental clinics. The ones most often recommended in Bangkok are (in no particular order):

 

https://bangkokdentalcenter.com/

http://www.dentalhospitalbangkok.com/

https://www.bangkoksmiledental.com

https://www.thantakit.com/

 

 

 

 

[h90]

8 minutes ago, The Fugitive said:

Very impressive! https://www.bangkokhospital.com/en/center-clinic/dental-care/bangkok-hospital-dental-center?info=overview

 

Kind of impressive until I thought that I pay for it and that they overcharge me, else they wouldn't have the money to build something like that. Than I read that people felt overcharged. But from other departments not dental....so I started to worry

[h90]

4 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

@h90

 

Now that we know you are in Bangkok:

 

First of all, do not be put off by what you read online.  For the reasons i explained you'll find that for everyplace. If you have specific reasons for using that hospital (location, combining it with other visits etc) and are OK with the prices then carry on.

 

You can get a competent cleaning at BH.

 

You can also get it, probably at less cost, at many dental clinics. The ones most often recommended in Bangkok are (in no particular order):

 

https://bangkokdentalcenter.com/

http://www.dentalhospitalbangkok.com/

https://www.bangkoksmiledental.com

https://www.thantakit.com/

 

 

 

 

Thanks....my wife just had a deep cleaning, which resulted in massive pain in one teeth and a loose other one (that may had an issue before) and afterwards the doctor told her best is to take all teeth out (beside these 2 all others are healthy) and replace them with implants as it is more beautiful......
That experience prevents me from going to some random place and want to go to a doc that I know already.
Before I was at Asavanant and always happy there.

[Sheryl]

3 minutes ago, h90 said:

Thanks....my wife just had a deep cleaning, which resulted in massive pain in one teeth and a loose other one (that may had an issue before) and afterwards the doctor told her best is to take all teeth out (beside these 2 all others are healthy) and replace them with implants as it is more beautiful......
That experience prevents me from going to some random place and want to go to a doc that I know already.
Before I was at Asavanant and always happy there.

Asavanant also has been recommended by many.

 

Obviously anytime a drastic recommendation is made, should seek second opinions.

 

Your wife may have misunderstiod what she was told. Almost never recommended to remove all teeth and whole mouth implants are rarely done.

[Lemsta69]

24 minutes ago, h90 said:

I didn't know that there is a Bangkok Hospital outside Bangkok....(But googled it, now I know)

Yeah they're the 7-Eleven of hospitals only not quite so reasonably priced ????

[paddypower]

33 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

there are numerous "Bangkok Hospitals" in multiple provinces of which Phuket is just one.  But he seems to have clarified that he means Bangkok Hospital in Bangkok.

Excuse that I didnt recognise hes in Bangkok. ???? ) .????

Edited May 16, 2023 by paddypower
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[MJCM]

14 minutes ago, paddypower said:

Excuse that I didnt recognise hes in Bangkok. ???? ) .????

What is even more confusing, the official brand name is 

 

Bangkok Dusit Medical Services (BDMS)

https://www.bdms.co.th

 

 

 

Edited May 16, 2023 by MJCM

[Sheryl]

Just now, MJCM said:

What is even more confusing, the official brand name is 

 

Bangkok Dusit Medical Services (BDMS)

https://www.bdms.co.th

 

 

BDMS is not another name for Bangkok Hospital. Rather it is the corporation which owns them.

 

Also owns Bumrungrad, Samitivej Hospitals,  BNH, Paolo Hospitals, Phyathai Hospitals  and others .

 

In other words, a mega corporation which owns most of the large private hospitals.

 

Notwithstanding which there are pronounced differences among these hospitals, their costs and their primary clientele.

[h90]

27 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

Asavanant also has been recommended by many.

 

Obviously anytime a drastic recommendation is made, should seek second opinions.

 

Your wife may have misunderstiod what she was told. Almost never recommended to remove all teeth and whole mouth implants are rarely done.

No no no....missunderstanding

I was before at Asavanant, always happy there. My dentist there changed to Bangkok Hospital and I want to keep the person not the place.

 

My wife was at a local place here which was strange and bad.....but her bad experience enforced my idea to keep the dentist (person not place) I know and trust and don't try a new person.

Asavanant was always good...no complain there

[h90]

9 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

BDMS is not another name for Bangkok Hospital. Rather it is the corporation which owns them.

 

Also owns Bumrungrad, Samitivej Hospitals,  BNH, Paolo Hospitals, Phyathai Hospitals  and others .

 

In other words, a mega corporation which owns most of the large private hospitals.

 

Notwithstanding which there are pronounced differences among these hospitals, their costs and their primary clientele.

Wow....that is a big thing.....

[MJCM]

11 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

BDMS is not another name for Bangkok Hospital. Rather it is the corporation which owns them.

 

Also owns Bumrungrad, Samitivej Hospitals,  BNH, Paolo Hospitals, Phyathai Hospitals  and others .

 

In other words, a mega corporation which owns most of the large private hospitals.

 

Notwithstanding which there are pronounced differences among these hospitals, their costs and their primary clientele.

Can be compared almost to CP ???? 

[paddypower]

16 minutes ago, MJCM said:

What is even more confusing, the official brand name is 

 

Bangkok Dusit Medical Services (BDMS)

https://www.bdms.co.th

 

 

 

I liked the one who wrote 711 . there are benefits to the private hospital cookie monster. we've had a hip replacement, in Phuket, with a specialist who came down  from Bangkok for the op. also, when we both had cateract/surgery for floaters, the ENT dept has just received the latest equipment from the States. The downside is those dental clinics which operate under the pretense that they are part of the hospital group.

[jaywalker2]

I had one experience at Bankok Hospital in Bangkok -- that was enough for me. I went in with a simple bladder infection. They immediately wanted to run a battery of tests (blood, liver, kidney and dengue fever tests) and give me an ultransound and tried to pressure me into staying overnight for observation.  They then ended up prescribing me the wrong medicine. I would never go back there.

[mstevens]

8 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

I had one experience at Bankok Hospital in Bangkok -- that was enough for me. I went in with a simple bladder infection. They immediately wanted to run a battery of tests (blood, liver, kidney and dengue fever tests) and give me an ultransound and tried to pressure me into staying overnight for observation.  They then ended up prescribing me the wrong medicine. I would never go back there.

Sounds to me like they were simply being thorough. It's the complete opposite in my part of the world where if you were to go to see the doctor with a simple bladder infection then they would take a piss sample, test it and if it was ok they would declare you fit and send you home - without having made  the necessary investigation to establish the problem. Comparing your experience at Bangkok Hospital and what I have experienced with doctors at home, I'd much rather have gone to Bangkok Hospital!

[h90]

7 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

I had one experience at Bankok Hospital in Bangkok -- that was enough for me. I went in with a simple bladder infection. They immediately wanted to run a battery of tests (blood, liver, kidney and dengue fever tests) and give me an ultransound and tried to pressure me into staying overnight for observation.  They then ended up prescribing me the wrong medicine. I would never go back there.

When I was in a other hospital (not Bangkok H) for my work permit health thing, they tried to sell me something as well. Wanted too much to sell me blood pressure medicine.....that seems to be possible to sale on everyone >50. But I do endurance sports and my blood pressure is like out of the medical guidebook. If this did not work, they tried to sell me vaccine. It get a bit too commercial...

[Sheryl]

27 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

I had one experience at Bankok Hospital in Bangkok -- that was enough for me. I went in with a simple bladder infection. They immediately wanted to run a battery of tests (blood, liver, kidney and dengue fever tests) and give me an ultransound and tried to pressure me into staying overnight for observation.  They then ended up prescribing me the wrong medicine. I would never go back there.

"They" were specific doctors.

 

Every hospital has doctors of widely varying caliber.

 

One should always carefully pre-select the doctor.

 

I have been  an inpatient at that hospital twice and outpatient countless times. Always  after carefully pre-selecting the doctor. Care ranged from excellent to acceptable.

 

 

[h90]

15 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

"They" were specific doctors.

 

Every hospital has doctors of widely varying caliber.

 

One should always carefully  pre-select the doctor.

 

I have been  an inpatient at that hospital twice and outpatient countless times. Always  after carefully pre-selecting the doctor. Care ranged from excellent to acceptable.

 

But how can you select the doctors? I can read where they have studied, but that doesn't mean much for a simple easy dental thing. Google reviews shows the hospital not a specific doc. And might brake the law in Thailand if claim some doc did wrong.

[Sheryl]

8 minutes ago, h90 said:

But how can you select the doctors? I can read where they have studied, but that doesn't mean much for a simple easy dental thing. Google reviews shows the hospital not a specific doc. And might brake the law in Thailand if claim some doc did wrong.

Sorry, I was not referring to dentistry but responding to a post about medical care.

 

Indeed for simple dentistry you cannot really pre-select and no real reason to.

 

I get all my cleanings at the Dental hospital http://www.dentalhospitalbangkok.com/

and find them very good. But going there as a new patient for first time, they may insist on a complete check up first. As you already have records at Asavanant might make more sense to go there. Or else stick with BH.

[The Fugitive]

46 minutes ago, mstevens said:

Sounds to me like they were simply being thorough. It's the complete opposite in my part of the world where if you were to go to see the doctor with a simple bladder infection then they would take a piss sample, test it and if it was ok they would declare you fit and send you home - without having made  the necessary investigation to establish the problem. Comparing your experience at Bangkok Hospital and what I have experienced with doctors at home, I'd much rather have gone to Bangkok Hospital!

Agree! The pass/fail limit is built into the analysing laboratory software. Your doctor would have zero input. The limit wouldn't be tailored to you in any way. Would probably be the doctors receptionist reading the result and 'sacking you off'.   

[Stocky]

There's also a Bangkok Hospital in Hat Yai, and their dental clinic is excellent.

[h90]

7 minutes ago, The Fugitive said:

Agree! The pass/fail limit is built into the analysing laboratory software. Your doctor would have zero input. The limit wouldn't be tailored to you in any way. Would probably be the doctors receptionist reading the result and 'sacking you off'.   

I was almost never at a doctor all my life, so I have no experience, but if I pay (different than with the healthcare in my country which is state organized) wouldn't I have to agree on what is done and what not? I couldn't tell anything for a heart surgery, but at a bladder infection I know that I don't have dengue....and don't need the test....But I always wonder why they take my blood pressure when I have some metal part in my foot (had that recently and couldn't see it to pull it out)

[xylophone]

1 minute ago, Stocky said:

There's also a Bangkok Hospital in Hat Yai, and their dental clinic is excellent.

I have to say the same about the Bangkok Hospital Phuket dental department, which is an integral part of the hospital, and the dentist I saw there, Dr Supachai was very good indeed, although the whole procedure was expensive, and painful at times (as I hate deep injections) but he did a good job, so far anyway!

 

As others have said, there are good, average and indifferent doctors and practitioners throughout Thailand, and as far as dentists go, I've been fairly lucky, whereas urologists, not so much.