American transwoman marries Thai woman, fueling hopes for future of same sex marriage (video)

[bignok]

16 minutes ago, PremiumLane said:

No, they are a female in terms of gender - sex and gender are not the same. Yes, some people's sex characteristics match their gender identify, some don't.

Wait till you find out that sex can also be bimodal, and how hormones affect people. 

Behaviour and sex are 2 different things.

[AndyFoxy]

21 minutes ago, PremiumLane said:

No, they are a female in terms of gender - sex and gender are not the same. Yes, some people's sex characteristics match their gender identify, some don't.

Wait till you find out that sex can also be bimodal, and how hormones affect people. 

Born with tackle = male. Born without tackle = female.

[Jingthing]

26 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

If I ever return to the USA, I'm identifying as a black, Asian, female, lesbian.  

 

I'll get preferential small business loans, job opportunities, housing, medical treatment, rent ... freebies for me ,,, in many states.

 

I was actually told when I applied for a small business loan, guaranteed by the government, denied by the way, that if I had a female or a minority partner, I would be approved no questions asked ... Mind-boggling.

No you won't. 

[PremiumLane]

9 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said:

Born with tackle = male. Born without tackle = female.

yeah, we get it, you don't understand sex vs gender, well done

[PremiumLane]

15 minutes ago, bignok said:

Behaviour and sex are 2 different things.

yes, sex and gender - that is what I said 

[Jingthing]

45 minutes ago, Myran said:

Why on Earth would that "fuel hope for same-sex marriage"? It's essentially a man marrying a woman.

Optics.

Thailand will have marriage equality EVENTUALLY regardless.

[Jingthing]

12 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said:

Born with tackle = male. Born without tackle = female.

Born with a brain.

Maybe uses it.

Maybe doesn't. 

[n00dle]

1 hour ago, quake said:

Maybe a sandwich with a reach-around. 

 

 

The reach around is never boring

[n00dle]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Born with a brain.

Maybe uses it.

Maybe doesn't. 

certainly doesnt use it to contemplate biological realities like male/female.

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, n00dle said:

certainly doesnt use it to contemplate biological realities like male/female.

It's not rocket science to learn about diversity. 

[NanLaew]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

2 hours ago, connda said:

This is only newsworthy if a man who is now a woman seeks to marry a Thai man, ie, a biological male marrying a biological male.

The laws as they stand now don't stop these two from marriage at all. 

If the Thai government recognizes gender reassignment in the future, I'm going to identify as a woman, my Thai wife will identify as a Thai man - and then we will revisit my immigration status given I'm now a foreign woman in a marriage with a Thai man.  I can't wait! 

So you plan on abusing the system by lying then, huh?

So self-identifying is the same as lying?

 

Or only if you do it in Thailand?

[n00dle]

Just now, Jingthing said:

diversity. 

diversity doesnt alter biology.

nothing you can say will change that.

even the most stunted penis is a male appendage.  

[Jingthing]

Just now, NanLaew said:

So self-identifying is the same as lying?

 

Or only if you do it in Thailand?

I would say that someone changing their legal gender to gain some kind of benefit when they are not actually a transgender person is indeed a big fat liar. Any country.

[AndyFoxy]

12 minutes ago, PremiumLane said:

yeah, we get it, you don't understand sex vs gender, well done

Yeah....we get it. You live in a fake world and don't understand that men can't be women and women can't be men.....well done. 

[AndyFoxy]

11 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Born with a brain.

Maybe uses it.

Maybe doesn't. 

Then trying using it.

[Jingthing]

Just now, n00dle said:

diversity doesnt alter biology.

nothing you can say will change that.

even the most stunted penis is a male appendage.  

You can obtain gender affirming medical care.

[Jingthing]

Just now, AndyFoxy said:

Then trying using it.

Back at ya Bubba

[n00dle]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

You can obtain gender affirming medical care.

And what does that change from a biological perspective? Does it alter chromosones? 

[Jingthing]

Some people are actually born sexually ambiguous biologically. Parents and doctors need to make a decision and quite often their decision turns out to be wrong.

[AndyFoxy]

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Back at ya Bubba

Right on Jingy

[djayz]

2 hours ago, h90 said:

That is so 1990

Ah, the good old days when you looked down and if you had a willie, you were a boy and if you didn't have one, you were a girl. 

Now we have people who don't know what they are.

[AndyFoxy]

2 minutes ago, djayz said:

Ah, the good old days when you looked down and if you had a willie, you were a boy and if you didn't have one, you were a girl. 

Now we have people who don't know what they are.

Just people living in denial. A lot of that these days.

[n00dle]

13 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Some people are actually born sexually ambiguous biologically. Parents and doctors need to make a decision and quite often their decision turns out to be wrong.

outliers. the rare exception nobody is denying.  

The number of births with ambiguous genitals is in the range of 1:4500–1:2000 (0.02%–0.05%).

 

A child is magnitudes more likely to be born with Down syndrome. (1:700)

[Jingthing]

Transgender people exist.

They existed in the 1950s too.

[Dazinoz]

I found out my dad was an invisible cross dresser.

 

He was a transparent.

 

[n00dle]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Accidentally I did. 

rather a telling slip.

[Jingthing]

Just now, Dazinoz said:

I found out my dad was an invisible cross dresser.

 

He was a transparent.

 

Many straight men are as a fetish.

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, n00dle said:

rather a telling slip.

If you say so.

[djayz]

6 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said:

Just people living in denial.

At least they kept that to themselves, in the closet, where it belongs. Nowadays they are proud to be confused and have no qualms about sharing it with the world. 

[daveAustin]

Both blokes, surely?