bignok Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 People do what they think about. If you want to eat less get busy doing other stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayinThailand2much Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, save the frogs said: one doctor pointed out that if you are metabolically healthy, then insulin spikes will not cause problems. I was recently worried when my pee started to smell sweet. But I figure it was due to either, consuming fruit juice at the time, or using more sugar in my coffee... Things are back to normal now that I consume less of both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 30 minutes ago, ozimoron said: A good way to eat fruit is after a protein shake or high protein meal as the protein inhibits insulin spikes. Also, go for a walk immediately after consuming the fruit. And resistance training a couple of times a week all this extra protein people are eating these days is putting extra strain on your kidneys. Today I've had 6 different fruits and many different vegetables, great, all that fiber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Just now, scubascuba3 said: all this extra protein people are eating these days is putting extra strain on your kidneys. Today I've had 6 different fruits and many different vegetables, great, all that fiber Please stop. I provided a bunch of links previously which showed that modern medical advice is to eat more protein as you get older to prevent sarcopenia. And to reduce carbs. You have ignored and not addressed any of those links. At this point your advice is misinformation. The recommendation is 1g per kg of body weight. Protein can cause kidney damage if eaten in excess which is highly unlikely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 minute ago, ozimoron said: Please stop. I provided a bunch of links previously which showed that modern medical advice is to eat more protein as you get older to prevent sarcopenia. And to reduce carbs. You have ignored and not addressed any of those links. At this point your advice is misinformation. The recommendation is 1g per kg of body weight. Protein can cause kidney damage if eaten in excess which is highly unlikely. videos and links don't add much really as there is always contradictory ones out there and no i don't bother with your links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: videos and links don't add much really as there is always contradictory ones out there and no i don't bother with your links As I suspected, you are uninformed if you disdain links (and therefore evidence). Where do you get the science from that tells you sugar and high carbs are good for you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 minute ago, ozimoron said: As I suspected, you are uninformed if you disdain links (and therefore evidence). Where do you get the science from that tells you sugar and high carbs are good for you? Do some research yourself, a Mediterranean diet in Thailand is useless, never catch on. Ask vegetarians about high carb, they do ok, not many fat ones, unless they eat too much fat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: Do some research yourself, a Mediterranean diet in Thailand is useless, never catch on. Ask vegetarians about high carb, they do ok, not many fat ones, unless they eat too much fat Give it a rest. I eat a Mediterranean diet in Thailand. It's myth that eating fat makes you you fat. Sugar does, incl sugar from carbs. Nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, ozimoron said: If you want to make a point do please find someone a little less boring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) Am OMAD. lunch at work is 12.15 to 1.15, I eat then. Outside of that 1 hour eating period it is liquid only (coffee before work/water at work/beer after work). Edited June 17, 2023 by Ralf001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Give it a rest. I eat a Mediterranean diet in Thailand. It's myth that eating fat makes you you fat. Sugar does, incl sugar from carbs. Nothing else. Don't be silly, of course it's fat, worse is the fat\sugar combo foods, ice cream, chocolate, pastries etc. Eat extra chocolate bars every day and see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: Don't be silly, of course it's fat, worse is the fat\sugar combo foods, ice cream, chocolate, pastries etc. Eat extra chocolate bars every day and see what happens I lost weight eating bacon and cheese everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Just now, bignok said: I lost weight eating bacon and cheese everyday. yeah that's what confuses people with those Atkin type diets which are bad for you long term Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, Moonlover said: If you want to make a point do please find someone a little less boring. Any excuse to ignore science. That he's boring isn't a consideration for me. 13 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: Don't be silly, of course it's fat, worse is the fat\sugar combo foods, ice cream, chocolate, pastries etc. Eat extra chocolate bars every day and see what happens Link to evidence. All your dietary advice is the exact antithesis of expert dietary advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 3 hours ago, shackleton said: I have a couple of coffees in the ???? Toasted roll for lunch main meal in the evening fried chicken boiled potatoes gravy fried egg ect???? Wife is a good cook Now starting next week going on a diet put on to much weight have my hospital appointment in July need to lose a few kilos ???? I am out walking in the afternoon as well Vegetables? Fruits? Herbs.....? No? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, ozimoron said: All your dietary advice is the exact antithesis of expert dietary advice Guff again, so these experts recommend eating lots of junk food? such as ice cream, chocolate, pastries, cakes, biscuits, crisps? it's just common sense, what happens when you eat this stuff, guess what, you put weight on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 26 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: yeah that's what confuses people with those Atkin type diets which are bad for you long term Baseless claim No link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: Guff again, so these experts recommend eating lots of junk food? such as ice cream, chocolate, pastries, cakes, biscuits, crisps? it's just common sense, what happens when you eat this stuff, guess what, you put weight on All high carb foods. It isn't hard to work out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, bignok said: Baseless claim No link research it, not many nutritionists would recommend Atkins fat diet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, bignok said: All high carb foods. It isn't hard to work out all high fat. Not the same as carbs alone like rice, potatoes, fruit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayinThailand2much Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 39 minutes ago, bignok said: I lost weight eating bacon and cheese everyday. Reverse effect here... Started to eat less red meat and cheese, actually gaining weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 31 minutes ago, ozimoron said: 49 minutes ago, Moonlover said: If you want to make a point do please find someone a little less boring. 31 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Any excuse to ignore science. That he's boring isn't a consideration for me. My 'excuse' is that I feel just fine on my TRF routine and have been doing so for the last 2 years at least. That's enough 'evidence' for me thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said: Reverse effect here... Started to eat less red meat and cheese, actually gaining weight. I've heard that when people switch away from keto they put weight back on + extra 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: I've heard that when people switch away from keto they put weight back on + extra Quality of food, less quantity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3NUMBAS Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 gut bacteria badly out of wack can give you terrible hunger which cant be solved some years ago i had it really bad ,no matter whatever i ate i was always hungry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetT Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Mbolo said: I actually don’t know what it means to be hungry. All in my family have a nerve missing in the stomach which is meant to send a message to the brain that it’s hungry. So, I can go days without eating and feel nothing, I only eat because I know I should eat. I’m 10 stone….same as I was in 1968. Despite your missing nerve, dont your energy levels drop telling you to eat something to keep your blood sugar up? I sometimes used to go all day eating next to nothing if not hungry, but as I get older if I dont eat reasonably regularly I feel drained mentally as well as physically and I can actually feel quite unwell, e.g., late morning after a light breakfast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
save the frogs Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, ozimoron said: Please stop. I provided a bunch of links previously which showed that modern medical advice is to eat more protein as you get older to prevent sarcopenia. And to reduce carbs. You have ignored and not addressed any of those links. At this point your advice is misinformation. I agree that you need to keep protein levels high, especially as you get older. I also agree that scubascuba's health advice is mostly misinformation. I would recommend to stop debating with this individual. Edited June 17, 2023 by save the frogs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
save the frogs Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 hours ago, ozimoron said: As I suspected, you are uninformed if you disdain links (and therefore evidence). Where do you get the science from that tells you sugar and high carbs are good for you? You clearly read a lot of scientific studies. And that's highly commendable. But by debating with folks on here, you are diminishing your efforts. Most people on here will just plant seeds of doubt about what you've learned. And most people don't know what they're talking about. I suggest you continue reading the scientific articles and always bear in mind that there is a lot of conflicting information out there. And get off the internet. People will detract you more than anything else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Pastries, chocolate and ice cream is a demon for many of us. I like to think I'm not alone. I try to avoid all, so I can have a few beers a day. My main staple which I really cant do without is bread, butter and cheese in the morning, mix it up with cottage cheese and fruit when I have it. Dinner is usually salmon, baked chicken or sometimes meatballs or steak with mashed potatoes or rice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said: all high fat. Not the same as carbs alone like rice, potatoes, fruit Not true. Lots of junk food are low fat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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