Mr Derek Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 On 7/11/2023 at 9:28 PM, Chomper Higgot said: I think the BBC, as an employer, should have made a police report as soon as allegations were made. I believe that The Sun, as a newspaper, should have made a police report as soon as they came into possession of evidence and if they have evidence that should have been presented to the police. I think they should both have laughed and said 'come back when you have evidence of an actual crime'. Those who want to escalate these things and concoct outrage are a bigger problem. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RuamRudy Posted July 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, BritManToo said: I'd be more concerned that a married 'heterosexual' BBC presenter was using gay dating sites. Why should it concern you at all? If he isn't breaking the law, is he not allowed a private life? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolkandchance Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 NHS or Private hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 On 7/9/2023 at 5:00 PM, Chelseafan said: I assume that the minor is male. All the articles I've read have been careful not to name the sex. Why make that assumption? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 21 minutes ago, RuamRudy said: I disagree that it's off topic but feel free to report it again. I haven't reported it. Nor will I. No point. 21 minutes ago, RuamRudy said: The discussion is about allegations of sexual impropriety by public figures. You are convinced that there is a conspiracy to protect the one who has been publicly named - the correlation with the allegations against Osborne are possibly inconvenient for the hard right, but they are totally on topic. My posts about a certain man in a shell suit who could "fix it" for children were deemed off topic so if I assume some level of consistency then yours must be as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 20 minutes ago, RuamRudy said: Who is the victim? Claims against BBC presenter are ‘rubbish’, says letter from young person’s lawyer, BBC reports https://www.theguardian.com/media/live/2023/jul/10/bbc-investigation-suspended-presenter-police-latest-updates?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other The victim hasn't been named but the BBC has verified the existence of the messages. https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-66165766 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 1 minute ago, JonnyF said: I haven't reported it. Nor will I. No point. My posts about a certain man in a shell suit who could "fix it" for children were deemed off topic so if I assume some level of consistency then yours must be as well. My point is a lot more recent than yours - in fact both stories emerged last week, but the more serious allegation seems to have been entirely ignored by the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 1 minute ago, JonnyF said: The victim hasn't been named but the BBC has verified the existence of the messages. https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-66165766 Your assertion of this person as a victim seems at odds with their own assessment of their situation. I assume that you are unaware of their identity. Would it also be fair to assume that they were in a better position to determine their victimhood than you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, RuamRudy said: Why should it concern you at all? If he isn't breaking the law, is he not allowed a private life? Maybe you should read the mission statement and core values of the BBC again. "We're kind" (except when someone is going to expose our deviant behaviour and then we threaten them). "We're accountable" (except when our leacherous behaviour is called out). "We respect each other" (except when abusing our power with subordinates). And yes, threatening people via SMS, messaging apps etc. is illegal. https://www.claims.co.uk/knowledge-base/offences/sending-threatening-emails#:~:text=Sending Threatening Emails-,What's the law%3F,as well as other legislation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, RuamRudy said: My point is a lot more recent than yours - in fact both stories emerged last week, but the more serious allegation seems to have been entirely ignored by the media. My point is a lot more relevant i.e. the BBC covering up allegations of abuse from within the organization. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, RuamRudy said: Your assertion of this person as a victim seems at odds with their own assessment of their situation. How so? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12292635/Now-Huw-Edwards-faces-fresh-allegations-inappropriate-behaviour-BBC-colleagues.html 2 minutes ago, RuamRudy said: I assume that you are unaware of their identity. Would it also be fair to assume that they were in a better position to determine their victimhood than you? They are aware that thay are victims. https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-66165766 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vinny41 Posted July 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, RuamRudy said: Why should it concern you at all? If he isn't breaking the law, is he not allowed a private life? BBC weren't bothered about Cliff Richard right to privacy were they And it was the BBC that decided to name Cliff Richard not South Yorkshire police force 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, JonnyF said: How so? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12292635/Now-Huw-Edwards-faces-fresh-allegations-inappropriate-behaviour-BBC-colleagues.html They are aware that thay are victims. https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-66165766 This is a different case to the Scum's story, I think? In this particular case, it seems that the young person threatened Edwards with public exposure, to which he responded with anger. How is the young person a victim here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, vinny41 said: BBC weren't bothered about Cliff Richard right to privacy were they And it was the BBC that decided to name Cliff Richard not South Yorkshire police force I agree - but two wrongs don't make a right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Just now, RuamRudy said: This is a different case to the Scum's story, I think? Who cares who reported it? It is the actions of Edwards that are being discussed, not The Sun newspaper (and once again referring to them as The Scum is against forum rules but well, you know...). Just now, RuamRudy said: In this particular case, it seems that the young person threatened Edwards with public exposure, to which he responded with anger. How is the young person a victim here? Edwards was harrassing the young person for a date, the person refused and tried to make him stop by saying he'd expose his poor behaviour so Edwards threatened them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, RuamRudy said: I agree - but two wrongs don't make a right. The BBC covering for their own. Not for the first time either (Now then Now then). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Sun has 'no plans' to publish further allegations The Sun has no plans to publish further allegations. We must also re-emphasise that The Sun at no point in our original story alleged criminality and also took the decision neither to name Mr Edwards nor the young person involved in the allegations. https://news.sky.com/story/huw-edwards-bbc-presenter-latest-police-teenager-explicit-pictures-12917955 The sun has the same get out of jail clause that the BBC and other media outlets use on a regular basis the article is published in the public interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastBayRay Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 50 minutes ago, BritManToo said: I'd be more concerned that someone professing to be a devout Christian married 'heterosexual' BBC presenter was using gay dating sites. hypocrisy is commonplace within The BBC, especially amongst high profile presenters like Edwards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted July 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2023 Just now, EastBayRay said: hypocrisy is commonplace within The BBC, especially amongst high profile presenters like Edwards. Why are they always chasing young boys though? It seems to be a problem unique to the BBC. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, vinny41 said: Sun has 'no plans' to publish further allegations The Sun has no plans to publish further allegations. We must also re-emphasise that The Sun at no point in our original story alleged criminality and also took the decision neither to name Mr Edwards nor the young person involved in the allegations. https://news.sky.com/story/huw-edwards-bbc-presenter-latest-police-teenager-explicit-pictures-12917955 The sun has the same get out of jail clause that the BBC and other media outlets use on a regular basis the article is published in the public interested I'd say it's absolutely in the public interest when someone paid a huge salary with public money is found to be breaking the guidelines of the tax payer funded public service broadcaster that employs him (and professes to hold themselves to such lofty standards). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 1 minute ago, BritManToo said: Why are they always chasing young boys though? It does seem to be a deep rooted problem, prevalent over many decades. They just don't seem to be able to "fix it". 1 minute ago, BritManToo said: It seems to be a problem unique to the BBC. ITV are also doing pretty well lately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Felton Jarvis Posted July 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2023 How can public figures be this stupid? BBC presenters make far too much money to risk it over sex charges. Pure stupidity. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KannikaP Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, Seppius said: Hypocritically, The Sun regularly had topless 16yo's on its famous Page 3 a few years ago No, they had to be were supposed to be over 18. Linda Lusardi, Sam Fox, Melinda Messenger etc. Lovely girls. Edited July 13, 2023 by KannikaP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KannikaP Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 37 minutes ago, RuamRudy said: This is a different case to the Scum's story, I think? In this particular case, it seems that the young person threatened Edwards with public exposure, to which he responded with anger. How is the young person a victim here? The 'young person' played his cards perfectly and got loads of money for simply sending photos. Agreed, he allegedly, from his Mum, spent it on Crack. I am amazed that someone like Huw could hide this from his Mrs, withdraw money from his accounts to send to the man, and his wife suspected nothing, except that he was severely depressed, probably cos he couldn't get his end away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, KannikaP said: The 'young person' played his cards perfectly and got loads of money for simply sending photos. Agreed, he allegedly, from his Mum, spent it on Crack. I am amazed that someone like Huw could hide this from his Mrs, withdraw money from his accounts to send to the man, and his wife suspected nothing, except that he was severely depressed, probably cos he couldn't get his end away. Why would you expect it difficult to hide from his wife? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, KannikaP said: The 'young person' played his cards perfectly and got loads of money for simply sending photos. Agreed, he allegedly, from his Mum, spent it on Crack. I am amazed that someone like Huw could hide this from his Mrs, withdraw money from his accounts to send to the man, and his wife suspected nothing, except that he was severely depressed, probably cos he couldn't get his end away. His wife is also ex-BBC so possibly familiar with the culture of ignoring poor behaviour and sweeping things under the carpet in the hope that this day would never arrive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 2 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said: It appears not! The Sun is likely to be in BIG trouble! Hopefully it will go the same way as the News of the World.???? Unlikely "Suggestions about possible criminality were first made at a later date by other media outlets, including the BBC. https://news.sky.com/story/huw-edwards-bbc-presenter-latest-police-teenager-explicit-pictures-12917955 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 On 7/10/2023 at 3:00 PM, Seppius said: Yeah, name is just about confirmed, he is odds on fav lol, they will have to say today, or he will have to denie it, bit of a "hue and cry" i think It will certainly"make the news"! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 15 minutes ago, KannikaP said: The 'young person' played his cards perfectly and got loads of money for simply sending photos. Agreed, he allegedly, from his Mum, spent it on Crack. I am amazed that someone like Huw could hide this from his Mrs, withdraw money from his accounts to send to the man, and his wife suspected nothing, except that he was severely depressed, probably cos he couldn't get his end away. Huw Edwards' final TV appearance cancelled in last minute change BBC News at Ten presenter Huw Edwards was due to appear on The One Show last week but was dropped from the programme in a last minute change https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/huw-edwards-final-tv-appearance-30454037 To be clear Huw was first told that there were allegations being made against him last Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 33 minutes ago, Felton Jarvis said: How can public figures be this stupid? BBC presenters make far too much money to risk it over sex charges. Pure stupidity. I suspect that the prevalence of risky behaviour amongst successful and high profile men is high. I don't know if it's related to the pressure they feel under or a sense of arrogance and entitlement, but Max Clifford, himself a risk taker, had an extensive list of secrets of the stars. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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