snoop1130 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 The Thai Constitution Court is due to meet this Wednesday to consider whether to accept the Election Commission’s petition for the court to rule on the parliamentary status of Move Forward party leader Pita Limjaroenrat, vis a vis the iTV shareholding controversy. Pita is accused of holding 42,000 shares in iTV, a media company, at the time he registered his electoral candidacy, which is a violation Sections 82, 101(6) and 98(3) of the Constitution. According to procedure, if the Constitutional Court agrees to accept the case, after being convinced that the accusation has grounds, it can issue an injunction to stop Pita from performing his duty as an MP until it rules on the case. Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/charter-court-to-consider-accepting-pitas-itv-shareholding-case-on-wednesday/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2023-07-17 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mark131v Posted July 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2023 All the dirty tricks are coming to the surface, very predictable considering they are a bunch of grasping hypocrites who are running scared A blind man can see there is nothing to prosecute from a dead none trading company but we all know they will drag it out and use every dirty trick in the book The sneaky ruses to try and doctor the iTV meeting minutes by the establishment stooges and portray a different outcome surely proves that but I bet that won't be investigated... 12 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted July 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2023 I know this sounds unbelievable but the constitutional court is looking more pathetically stupid by the hour ???? 7 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted July 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2023 Just another arm of junta to protect the generals and their power and wealth. 7 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ikke1959 Posted July 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2023 again a day before voting for Pm. Hopefully the CC will do their job and don't accept it and make the way free for a modern Thailand 5 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mark131v Posted July 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ikke1959 said: again a day before voting for Pm. Hopefully the CC will do their job and don't accept it and make the way free for a modern Thailand Unfortunately that is wishful thinking, the CC like the EC as previously mentioned are just another arm of the junta and they will never do the right or honourable thing it's just not in their nature... Edited July 17, 2023 by mark131v 7 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post puck2 Posted July 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) Thailands democracy at its best: Holding shares of a media company is nearly like a crime, if you want to be elected as a PM. In the eyes/mind of the junta and it minions this is unforgivabel. But making a coup by the military junta is no problem for the Thai democracy, because the Junta-Leader made a law to make him free of a juristical prosecution. In their minds, this seems not to be a problem for a so called "democracy". Democratic states have 3 criteria: "Legal equality, political freedom and rule of law are often identified as foundational characteristics for a well-functioning democracy." (google) Thailand has a 4th criteria: military forces!! Edited July 17, 2023 by puck2 3 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post neeray Posted July 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2023 I hope that the Thai people are being made well aware, in understandable simple Thai language, that the Prayut gang rigged the system in the first place and is now pulling dirty tricks out of their back pocket in order to hold onto power, a power that the majority of Thais don't want them to have anymore. This is no time for naivete or complacency. Thais need to fight for what they voted for. 2 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted July 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2023 9 hours ago, snoop1130 said: According to procedure, if the Constitutional Court agrees to accept the case, It will rid the country of any credible opposition... nice legacy Prayut. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted July 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2023 7 hours ago, ikke1959 said: again a day before voting for Pm. Hopefully the CC will do their job and don't accept it and make the way free for a modern Thailand The EC and CC are the left and right arms of the self elected Prayut. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ben Zioner Posted July 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, puck2 said: Thailands democracy at its best: Holding shares of a media company is nearly like a crime, if you want to be elected as a PM. In the eyes/mind of the junta and it minions this is unforgivabel. But making a coup by the military junta is no problem for the Thai democracy, because the Junta-Leader made a law to make him free of a juristical prosecution. In their minds, this seems not to be a problem for a so called "democracy". Democratic states have 3 criteria: "Legal equality, political freedom and rule of law are often identified as foundational characteristics for a well-functioning democracy." (google) Thailand has a 4th criteria: military forces!! There is even an unelected senator claiming that the reform of section 112 would be antidemocratic. But honestly why our governments so silent? A bit of a colonial stance IMHO. Edited July 18, 2023 by Ben Zioner 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said: There is even an unelected senator claiming that the reform of section 112 would be antidemocratic. But honestly why our governments so silent. A bit of a colonial stance IMHO. It got edited. Edited July 18, 2023 by jacko45k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolkarl Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 What a waste of time. Part of the dog and pony show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post h90 Posted July 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2023 10 hours ago, dinsdale said: Just another arm of junta to protect the generals and their power and wealth. What is the constitution court doing wrong? They didn't write the laws/constitution they only follow it 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post neeray Posted July 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, h90 said: What is the constitution court doing wrong? They didn't write the laws/constitution they only follow it They don't "follow it". They "bend it" to whatever way the junta party says to bend it. 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jesimps Posted July 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2023 16 minutes ago, h90 said: What is the constitution court doing wrong? They didn't write the laws/constitution they only follow it .......and we all know who wrote the latest constitution. Saying that, and I've said it several times before, I still can't figure why Pita didn't bin those shares before the election. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamnutsak Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 I'd say Pita is done. He'll be lucky to dodge a 112 or 116 charge. 11 hours ago, snoop1130 said: which is a violation Sections 82, 101(6) and 98(3) of the Constitution. 82 (part) Upon receipt of the matter for consideration, if it appears that there are reasonable grounds to suspect that the case of the member against whom the complaint is lodged is founded, the Constitutional Court shall order such member to cease the performance of his or her duties until the Constitutional Court makes a decision. When the Constitutional Court has made a decision, it shall notify the President of the House to which the complaint is lodged under paragraph one of such decision. In the case where the Constitutional Court decides that the membership of the member against whom a complaint has been lodged is terminated, such person shall vacate office as from the date of cessation of the performance of duties, but this shall not affect any act done by such person prior to the vacation of his or her office. 98.3 being the owner of, or a shareholder in any newspaper or mass media business; 101.6 being under any prohibition under section 98; 98.3 seems pretty "flexible", so the CC will probably say that the glove fits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, jesimps said: .......and we all know who wrote the latest constitution. Saying that, and I've said it several times before, I still can't figure why Pita didn't bin those shares before the election. yes but you can't bin the flaws of the constitution court...they didn't write it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Cool Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 10 hours ago, dinsdale said: Just another arm of junta to protect the generals and their power and wealth. The generals and........???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 14 minutes ago, neeray said: They don't "follow it". They "bend it" to whatever way the junta party says to bend it. I can't see that........Do you have any examples of where they bent it? I have more the impression that they follow the law to the letter. But I am not following them in detail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shackleton Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 I am afraid Pita knows things are not going for him in a positive way The senate don't want change and no doubt this will be followed up by the Court disagreeing with Pita and his party ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzupnow Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 typically double standards policy here if you are not 1 off prayut s gready dinosaur maffia you need to be a perfect virgin not having lived a life before not made any money to survive in short a newborn clone i would love to see all the gready moneygrabbing stuff from these senators to be publiced this book would be bigger than any bible or koran 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertson468 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 If the Senators must stay, there should be an amendment regarding the conduct of their duties. They should not be allowed to abstain from a vote and if they do so, it should be considered that they are guilty of treason and should be charged accordingly. I must admit that Pita is his own worst enemy. He should have ensured that he was whiter than white before becoming an MP. He should have also known that the opposition would use whatever tool is available to him to negate his bid to become PM, which in reality is very fair in the dirty game called politics. A sharp learning curve for the young pretenders! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabradelmar Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Pita does not stand a chance... even "if" the full assembly seats him as PM (that's a big if), he will be ousted by this EC/CC conspired iTV shares situation. Sadly, they have a good case against him. The shares are in a media company (it makes no difference if the company is currently not operating). The company clearly still has assets as the shares are worth nearly $3,000. Pita's own carelessness could ultimately be his undoing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamnutsak Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 22 minutes ago, robertson468 said: I must admit that Pita is his own worst enemy. He should have ensured that he was whiter than white before becoming an MP. He has bigger enemies than himself. The biggest. And I think he will be subject to criminal charges, 112/116, along with scrutiny on land deals/holdings. Criticism of the Institution must be nipped in the bud, and an example must be made to discourage future criticisms. But I do agree that he should have had two separate legal/financial reviews of his holdings. Especially given Thanatorn's travails with an in-flight magazine. I think he thought, assuming he was aware of all the details of his late father's holdings, that iTV shares were worthless paper. Most people would think that too. But the CC can rule however they want, and they'll rule he violated 98.3 FWIW he was, however briefly, an MP in 2019/2020, until Future Forward was run out of town. I'd like to see all MPs and Senators subject to a similar financial forensic review. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surasak Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 12 hours ago, ikke1959 said: again a day before voting for Pm. Hopefully the CC will do their job and don't accept it and make the way free for a modern Thailand Funny how it just came over very cloudy, and I swear that's a flock of pigs up there.???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 36 minutes ago, robertson468 said: If the Senators must stay, there should be an amendment regarding the conduct of their duties. They should not be allowed to abstain from a vote and if they do so, it should be considered that they are guilty of treason and should be charged accordingly. I must admit that Pita is his own worst enemy. He should have ensured that he was whiter than white before becoming an MP. He should have also known that the opposition would use whatever tool is available to him to negate his bid to become PM, which in reality is very fair in the dirty game called politics. A sharp learning curve for the young pretenders! what difference does it make if they vote no or abstain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 14 hours ago, snoop1130 said: The Thai Constitution Court is due to meet this Wednesday to consider whether to accept the Election Commission’s petition for the court to rule on the parliamentary status of Move Forward party leader Pita Limjaroenrat, vis a vis the iTV shareholding controversy. If they go by the Book then Pita won't be the next PM . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Election_Commission_of_Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ54 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Croc-O-<deleted> should have been addressed when Pita was a MP. Guess someone put it in their back pocket to use at a later date… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithkarmann Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 4 hours ago, Ben Zioner said: There is even an unelected senator claiming that the reform of section 112 would be antidemocratic. But honestly why our governments so silent? A bit of a colonial stance IMHO. Thailand-Insignificant on the World stage as they do not supply oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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