Popular Post snoop1130 Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 The following are statements from various Thai student groups urging Thais to rise and fight to defend democracy after Pita Limjaroenrat’s bid to become the next Thai Prime Minister failed. Their opinions are entirely their own, notes TPN media. By Adam Judd Full Story: https://thepattayanews.com/2023/07/20/thai-student-groups-urge-thais-to-rise-and-fight-to-uphold-democracy/ -- © Copyright The Pattaya News 2023-07-20 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 No comment. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Good sign. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mavideol Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 easy to understand their reaction, their future it's in jeopardy 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayinThailand2much Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) They are a tiny minority. I very much doubt that they could even encourage 150,000 people (or approx. 1% of people who voted for just Move Forward) to "rise and fight". And even such a number of demonstrators (if they could get 150,000 at a time) would easily be dealt with by the military... Edited July 20, 2023 by StayinThailand2much 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmaxdan Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Civil war pending. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 I wonder if they will target those senators of just make a general nuisance for the sake of their own agenda? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenStark Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 42 minutes ago, Mavideol said: easy to understand their reaction, their future it's in jeopardy You have stolen my dreams and my future How dare you 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, MrJ2U said: No comment. Why bother to post then? 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 22 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said: They are a tiny minority. I very much doubt that they could even encourage 150,000 people (or approx. 1% of people who voted for just Move Forward) to "rise and fight". And even such a number of demonstrators (if they could get 150,000 at a time) would easily be dealt with by the military... But it IS their future and NOT that of the dinosaurs. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steven100 Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 What democracy ? Thailand needs a PM with authority and power, it doesn't need students beating the democratic drum. They can beat their drum until the cows come home ..... Thailand can't work as a normal democracy, it needs someone to control the people and someone with power who can control the internal politics. Thailand has too much in-house political fighting to be anywhere near a democracy .... it'll never happen, it hasn't happened in the past 100 yrs and unlikely to for another 100.. Anyone who thinks otherwise is dreaming. 1 3 1 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BenStark Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, steven100 said: Thailand needs a PM with authority and power, You have someone specific in mind Steven? 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, billd766 said: Why bother to post then? Why bother to reply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayinThailand2much Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, billd766 said: But it IS their future and NOT that of the dinosaurs. Yes, sure. But what will they (this generation, not just a few students) do for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said: Yes, sure. But what will they (this generation, not just a few students) do for it? Freedom for all is earned by the few at a price. It does not come free of charge. Military coups and dictators come at a much higher price to the people. The actions of a few can give a better future for the many, as long as they don't lead to coups. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2baht Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Dmaxdan said: Civil war pending. Rubbish! Scare monger! Edited July 20, 2023 by 2baht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2baht Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 10 hours ago, steven100 said: Thailand needs a PM with authority and power, Thailand needs an ADULT! Pity they are in short supply! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasabi Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, 2baht said: Rubbish! Yes Edited July 20, 2023 by wasabi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 12 hours ago, snoop1130 said: The following are statements from various Thai student groups urging Thais to rise and fight to defend democracy after Pita Limjaroenrat’s bid to become the next Thai Prime Minister failed. Their opinions are entirely their own, Defend democracy,Thailand has no democracy as this latest fiasco has shown 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post herfiehandbag Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, steven100 said: What democracy ? Thailand needs a PM with authority and power, it doesn't need students beating the democratic drum. They can beat their drum until the cows come home ..... Thailand can't work as a normal democracy, it needs someone to control the people and someone with power who can control the internal politics. Thailand has too much in-house political fighting to be anywhere near a democracy .... it'll never happen, it hasn't happened in the past 100 yrs and unlikely to for another 100.. Anyone who thinks otherwise is dreaming. Ah, 'tis a while since we have heard from the "Thailand is not ready for democracy, the people cannot handle it" school of thought! Deep in the undergrowth the slumbering fascists stirred, their tight starched uniforms ready in their closets! Edited July 20, 2023 by herfiehandbag 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Said it before, keep it going, my wife will soon have a genuine asylum claim for the UK ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 13 hours ago, Dmaxdan said: Civil war pending. Nope. For a civil war you need two well armed groups with opposing views. Thailand only has the one armed group For a civil war to kick off in earnest you would need a disaffected unit of the Thai army to make a drive on Bangkok with a view to bringing democracy to Thailand. A pretty unlikely scenario.............................sadly. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKKBike09 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Unless MFP have the financial backers to mobilise and support long-term street protests, nothing much will happen. MFP / Pita have been naive in banging on about reform of Section 112. Students in Bangkok might like the sound of it, but many, many average Thai voters see it as inappropriate or worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 6 hours ago, Denim said: Nope. For a civil war you need two well armed groups with opposing views. Thailand only has the one armed group For a civil war to kick off in earnest you would need a disaffected unit of the Thai army to make a drive on Bangkok with a view to bringing democracy to Thailand. A pretty unlikely scenario.............................sadly. And where do most of the RTA's recruits & conscripts come from? From Isaan, which has consistently voted PTP for many years, and in May split with MFP. (Why from Isaan? Because they're not rich enough or educated enough to pull the right strings to evade conscription. Suits the RTA just fine.) And are these Isaan lads aware of which side is up? Oh yes. As I have recounted in the past, my partner was a young conscript back around 2010. He tells me that the officers told them all to vote Yellow at the relevant election. But the lads all voted red. Which is suggestive of a course of action in the present circumstances ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie999 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 It never stops surprising me how a military turns against its own mother, father, brothers, sisters, extended family friends etc, I guess it takes one good man, which seems hard to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeMachine Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 If the uprising didnt happen the moment pita was first rejected . its never going to happen. Things are going to continue as they are. Peacefully. Ok, maybe a few broken windows. Thats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 20 hours ago, StayinThailand2much said: They are a tiny minority. I very much doubt that they could even encourage 150,000 people (or approx. 1% of people who voted for just Move Forward) to "rise and fight". And even such a number of demonstrators (if they could get 150,000 at a time) would easily be dealt with by the military... Rise and fight ,resulting in protests, riots and massacres! Grow up , get educated, become representatives !Change the rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, steven100 said: What democracy ? Thailand needs a PM with authority and power, it doesn't need students beating the democratic drum. They can beat their drum until the cows come home ..... Thailand can't work as a normal democracy, it needs someone to control the people and someone with power who can control the internal politics. Thailand has too much in-house political fighting to be anywhere near a democracy .... it'll never happen, it hasn't happened in the past 100 yrs and unlikely to for another 100.. Anyone who thinks otherwise is dreaming. Still in mourning over Prayuth’s humiliating defeat are we? Edited July 21, 2023 by MrMojoRisin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdey Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Brilliant. Just what the generals need, a provocation to take over the country for another 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 hour ago, mfd101 said: And where do most of the RTA's recruits & conscripts come from? From Isaan, which has consistently voted PTP for many years, and in May split with MFP. (Why from Isaan? Because they're not rich enough or educated enough to pull the right strings to evade conscription. Suits the RTA just fine.) And are these Isaan lads aware of which side is up? Oh yes. As I have recounted in the past, my partner was a young conscript back around 2010. He tells me that the officers told them all to vote Yellow at the relevant election. But the lads all voted red. Which is suggestive of a course of action in the present circumstances ... Unfortunately , recruits do not have access to weapons except when they are being trained in there use. And a civil war needs weapons , lots of them. Next is leadership. Whatever their sentiments they need to be led. I know that the Thai arms is a conscript one , mostly of unlucky recruits who picked the wrong chit from the bag. But whatever their private feelings they are unlikely to storm the armoury and get tooled up. After training many will end up working as unpaid servants to high ranking officers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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