Thailand eyes record 2 million Russian tourists despite geopolitical tensions

[BarraMarra]

3 hours ago, realfunster said:

Go on then, please regale us with the extensive list of countries that has put a blanket ban on russian nationals entering for tourism.

England, Scotland ,Wales theres 3 how many more you want were talking about Tourist areas 

[rbkk]

28 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

Anutim, now looking like the next PM, is insistent on dual pricing at all hospitals.

quintuple pricing

[CartagenaWarlock]

I like Thailand's' position. why meddle with America's war? Ukraine is basically an America's proxy war. The UK and many European countries are vassals of America. They will kowtow to their master America (and I'm a produce American for that). China and India are independents. They will never kowtow  to America or Europe. America and Europe needs India and China to access their market. Let Thailand maintain its neutral stand and profit from the situation. The war is America's making and America is profiteering enormously at the expense of Europe.

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, CartagenaWarlock said:

I like Thailand's' position. why meddle with America's war? Ukraine is basically an America's proxy war. The UK and many European countries are vassals of America. They will kowtow to their master America (and I'm a produce American for that). China and India are independents. They will never kowtow  to America or Europe. America and Europe needs India and China to access their market. Let Thailand maintain its neutral stand and profit from the situation. The war is America's making and America is profiteering enormously at the expense of Europe.

The war is Russia's making. Period. 

[ChasingTheSun]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

There is no good reason to side with Russia. They chose to invade. It's as simple as that. Ukraine was no threat to Russia. You are free to support genocidal war criminal of course, if that's what you feel you need to do. 

It seems that you are uninformed about the history and issues leading up to the SMO.

Thailand chose to be neutral becasue they are informed about the history and issues leading up to the SMO.

 

Nobody can help you understand the matter unless you are willing to make an effort to do some research on your own first.

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, ChasingTheSun said:

It seems that you are uninformed about the history and issues leading up to the SMO.

Thailand chose to be neutral becasue they are informed about the history and issues leading up to the SMO.

 

Nobody can help you understand the matter unless you are willing to make an effort to do some research on your own first.

Don't be so obnoxious. Just because a person doesn't buy your pro Kremlin lies doesn't mean they haven't studied the history and situation. I have personal roots that are both Russian and Ukrainian. You're on the wrong side of history just as Nazis were. 

 

Thailand's decision is obviously based on economic self interest. If the west decided to play hard ball and extend sanctions to "neutral" countries, Thailand would likely have an attitude adjustment. I'm not suggesting that the west do that though. 

Edited July 26, 2023 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, ChasingTheSun said:

Wow! You claim to know that Thailand made the decision to be neutral based on greed. 
 

I think that tells us everything we need to know about your ingrained negative bias against both Russia and Thailand.

Not really. 

Nations almost always make foreign policy decisions based on national self interest.

If you don't know that, you really know nothing about such matters.

You're obviously a pro Putin propagandist and you're trying to sell a narrative that is obviously false that Thailand supports genocidal war criminal's war of choice. Nope. It's just self interest. In that I don't blame Thailand for being neutral. I wish they had a higher calling and opposed evil in the world, but that's asking too much.  They're acting normally. 

Note they are being careful not to cross any lines that would invite secondary sanctions. Again -- basic self interest. 

Edited July 26, 2023 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

Just now, ChasingTheSun said:

Again, you are accusing Thailand of being immoral, and acting on greed.

 

We can only assume you don’t live in Thailand if you hold the nation in such contempt. 

Now you're just Z trolling.

Agree to disagree. Slava Ukraini. 

[IAMHERE]

15 hours ago, freeworld said:

Do you also wonder about other nationalities overstaying their visa.

"other nationalities" wasn't the topic being discussed. 

[jacko45k]

17 hours ago, CANSIAM said:

It appears  the Nation is proud of Putin’s citizens numbers, where else can they bask in the sun North Korea, Syria ? 

I hear they can be found all over, Indonesia, Africa, UAE, Turkey, Egypt as eg. 

[ChipButty]

21 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

I hear they can be found all over, Indonesia, Africa, UAE, Turkey, Egypt as eg. 

Im told Zanzibar is quite popular with Russians 

[Jingthing]

Georgia, Uzbekistan, Kazakstan, Armenia, Serbia, Indonesia, Cambodia, Sri Lanka, Dubai

[bignok]

12 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

"2 million Russians"

 

2 million to many. 

No worse than French or English.

[MrJ2U]

1 hour ago, bignok said:

No worse than French or English.

The worst!

 

Russian tourist are absolutely oblivious to others.  I'd rather be stuck with a hotel full of Chinese tourists than Russian louts! 

[bignok]

Just now, MrJ2U said:

The worst!

 

Russian tourist are absolutely oblivious to others.  I'd rather be stuck with a hotel full of Chinese tourists than Russian louts! 

Racist

[MrJ2U]

4 minutes ago, bignok said:

Racist

No, Russians are just lousy tourists. 

 

That was always the case even before they invaded Ukraine and continue to murder innocent people. 

Edited July 27, 2023 by MrJ2U

[bignok]

2 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

No, Russians are just lousy tourists. 

Dont bother me. They dont go where i do.

[Burma Bill]

On 7/26/2023 at 8:55 AM, webfact said:

(TAT) is poised to welcome a record-breaking 2 million Russian tourists next year

Oh really!! TAT, are you aware of this latest development in Russia (25 July 2023) ?? I bet not!

 

Russian lawmakers on Tuesday voted to increase the age for military conscription, a move aimed at expanding Moscow’s army ranks with a bigger pool of trained recruits who could potentially join the battle in Ukraine..............  The new measure, ............ applies to the year of military service required of all Russian men. Starting next year, those ages 18 to 30 will be required to serve; previously, it was 18 to 27. The bill also prohibits men who have been conscripted from leaving the country, an attempt to cut down on draft dodging.

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2023/jul/25/russia-plans-to-increase-age-range-for-required-1-/

 

There are already restrictions on the issue of passports (28 September 2022):

 

Moscow will not give out passports to Russians mobilized by the army, a government information portal said Wednesday, as fears of travel restrictions rise and tens of thousands flee the country. 

 

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/09/28/russia-will-not-give-out-passports-to-mobilized-people-government-a78920

[Jingthing]

12 minutes ago, Burma Bill said:

Oh really!! TAT, are you aware of this latest development in Russia (25 July 2023) ?? I bet not!

 

Russian lawmakers on Tuesday voted to increase the age for military conscription, a move aimed at expanding Moscow’s army ranks with a bigger pool of trained recruits who could potentially join the battle in Ukraine..............  The new measure, ............ applies to the year of military service required of all Russian men. Starting next year, those ages 18 to 30 will be required to serve; previously, it was 18 to 27. The bill also prohibits men who have been conscripted from leaving the country, an attempt to cut down on draft dodging.

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2023/jul/25/russia-plans-to-increase-age-range-for-required-1-/

 

There are already restrictions on the issue of passports (28 September 2022):

 

Moscow will not give out passports to Russians mobilized by the army, a government information portal said Wednesday, as fears of travel restrictions rise and tens of thousands flee the country. 

 

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/09/28/russia-will-not-give-out-passports-to-mobilized-people-government-a78920

Yeah but those that flee need to have a way to support themselves, not to mention visas. They're not all IT whiz kids. Which does indeed mean in many countries there will be an increase in Russian overstaying and illegal working. A good percentage of course just run out of money and go home to who knows what. 

Edited July 27, 2023 by Jingthing

[Rimmer]

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[GABRIELE Hua Hin]

Hopefully someone in charge will then do the counter-calculation and subtract those Western foreigners who don't feel like spending their holidays in New Moscow from the hoped-for 2 million Russians.

 

[Jingthing]

Ouch.

Tip of the iceberg?

The stranded Ukrainians should take priority over the stranded Russians, but oh yeah Thailand is neutral.

 

Thousands of Russians and Ukrainians stranded in Thailand, including Phuket - phuketGO (phuket-go.com)

 

[bbbbooboo]

Hmmm… 2 million Russian escapees more likely….  ?

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, bbbbooboo said:

Hmmm… 2 million Russian escapees more likely….  ?

Can't really tell the percentages but it is a significant percentage in any country that Russians are flocking to these days.

 

As far as Ukrainians, it's more complicated. If they are fighting age men, they should be back home to defend their nation against Putin's barbarism. Others, I would think there are still places of refuge in Europe. 

Edited July 27, 2023 by Jingthing

[BarraMarra]

Doesn't realy matter if there fellow country men invaded another country committing war crimes and kidnapping kids, but hey in Thailand everyone is welcome Including men who committed Genocide. So welcome our friends to the land of Smiles.

[Jenkins9039]

On 7/26/2023 at 3:24 PM, RafPinto said:

Was just seeing a report that Russians in Bali are moving their money through crypto in Bali.

 

Using Chinese banking rails mostly. 

[1happykamper]

Oh joy 

[ThaiFelix]

On 7/26/2023 at 2:06 PM, Digitalbanana said:

Judging by the lead photo I suppose having lost all sense of human decency as a nation, they have tossed all fashion sense to the wind like wise.

Thanks, for a minute there I thought it was only me lol!

[ThaiFelix]

On 7/27/2023 at 4:14 PM, BarraMarra said:

Doesn't realy matter if there fellow country men invaded another country committing war crimes and kidnapping kids, but hey in Thailand everyone is welcome Including men who committed Genocide. So welcome our friends to the land of Smiles.

The americans have been welcome here too??

[BarraMarra]

17 hours ago, ThaiFelix said:

The americans have been welcome here too??

Don't forget Pol Pot he was allowed To stay in Thailand when the Khmer Rouge were defeated.