Analysis The chance of Trump winning another term is very real

[Neeranam]

On 7/31/2023 at 1:10 PM, riclag said:

Only time will tell ! But right now Harvard / Harris shows the Independent voter siding heavily toward 45.

In June Trump was beating biden with Independents by 4% points in this july poll,it went to 18%

points! 
The lines have been drawn on both sides, left & right! The fight is for the Swing vote!

https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/HHP_July2023_KeyResults.pdf

 

 

So why do the Dems lovers think Biden is ahead in the polls? 

It's like they refuse to accept defeat. 

[riclag]

6 hours ago, Neeranam said:

So why do the Dems lovers think Biden is ahead in the polls? 

It's like they refuse to accept defeat. 

I love to explain it in simple terms with facts and a source but unfortunately its off topic ! It has something to do with hate , the 

fear of losing power and the people 

who control the  msm and their minions! Imop

 

 

Edited August 5, 2023 by riclag

[Tug]

15 minutes ago, riclag said:

I love to explain it in simple terms with facts and a source but unfortunately its off topic ! It has something to do with hate , the 

fear of losing power and the people 

who control the  msm and their minions! Imop

 

 

Naaa the reason no one wants trump is because rational folks have seen what’s he’s done and what he brings 

[Neeranam]

2 hours ago, Tug said:

Naaa the reason no one wants trump is because rational folks have seen what’s he’s done and what he brings 

It seems more than half want Trump.

This is getting bizarre now, did you even read the OP? And it's by CNN, at least they can accept the truth. 

 

No one in Trump’s current polling position in the modern era has lost an open presidential primary that didn’t feature an incumbent. He’s pulling in more than 50% of support in the national primary polls, i.e., more 

[ozimoron]

9 hours ago, Neeranam said:

So why do the Dems lovers think Biden is ahead in the polls? 

It's like they refuse to accept defeat. 

Last time I looked the polls did favor the dems. Let's look together again now.

 

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/

 

I see more polls favoring Biden in this list.

[Neeranam]

9 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Last time I looked the polls did favor the dems. Let's look together again now.

 

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/

 

I see more polls favoring Biden in this list.

Do you think CNN are biased towards Trump? 

Do you think they would say Trump is ahead when he's not? 

[ozimoron]

7 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Do you think CNN are biased towards Trump? 

Do you think they would say Trump is ahead when he's not? 

Who knows? Were they referring to a single poll?

 

That list I provided is the definitive list of polls in America.

[Neeranam]

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Who knows? Were they referring to a single poll?

 

That list I provided is the definitive list of polls in America.

Really? OK, thanks for sharing. 

The latest poll says Trump is ahead. 

 

[kwonitoy]

10 hours ago, Neeranam said:

So why do the Dems lovers think Biden is ahead in the polls? 

It's like they refuse to accept defeat. 

Defeat of what?

Polls are polls and have been wrong on multiple occasions

Elections, voting and their results are the only thing that matters

[cjinchiangrai]

Just a news agency trying to make a horserace. He has less than 35% of Republicans supporting him and zero democrats. He will not even be close.

[ozimoron]

10 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Really? OK, thanks for sharing. 

The latest poll says Trump is ahead. 

 

Yes, the latest poll does say that.

[candide]

11 hours ago, Neeranam said:

So why do the Dems lovers think Biden is ahead in the polls? 

It's like they refuse to accept defeat. 

Because he is ahead in the latest polls.

https://www.racetothewh.com/president/polls?utm_content=cmp-true

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Democrats are overperforming in 2023's special elections. Is it a clue for Biden vs. Trump?

An analysis from FiveThirtyEight found that in 38 special elections held so far this year, Democrats have outperformed the partisan lean -- or the relative liberal or conservative history -- of the areas where the races were held by an average of 10%, both romping in parts of the country that typically support the party while cutting down on GOP margins in red cities and counties, too.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democrats-overperforming-2023-special-elections-clue-biden-trump/story?id=101850305

[Berkshire]

28 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Democrats are overperforming in 2023's special elections. Is it a clue for Biden vs. Trump?

An analysis from FiveThirtyEight found that in 38 special elections held so far this year, Democrats have outperformed the partisan lean -- or the relative liberal or conservative history -- of the areas where the races were held by an average of 10%, both romping in parts of the country that typically support the party while cutting down on GOP margins in red cities and counties, too.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democrats-overperforming-2023-special-elections-clue-biden-trump/story?id=101850305

Agree.  These special elections and the 2022 midterms--where Dems also overperformed--are much better indicators for 2024 than these polls.  Because they are actual elections with actual voters.  And yes, abortion is/will be a big deal, particularly with suburban women.  The independents and moderates will determine the outcome.  And these same voters who ditched Trump in 2020, are they going to say "well we didn't vote for Trump last time, but now that he's been criminally indicted three times this past year, we might just go back to him.  Because we want a criminal in the White House!"  Yeah, right.

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1 minute ago, Berkshire said:

Agree.  These special elections and the 2022 midterms--where Dems also overperformed--are much better indicators for 2024 than these polls.  Because they are actual elections with actual voters.  And yes, abortion is/will be a big deal, particularly with suburban women.  The independents and moderates will determine the outcome.  And these same voters who ditched Trump in 2020, are they going to say "well we didn't vote for Trump last time, but now that he's been criminally indicted three times this past year, we might just go back to him.  Because we want a criminal in the White House!"  Yeah, right.

Trump is trying to temper the distaste the the majority of women and younger people feel for him by claiming that he doesn't support extreme abortion laws but just wants it to be a  states rights issue. Good luck with that.

[xylophone]

19 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Trump is trying to temper the distaste the the majority of women and younger people feel for him by claiming that he doesn't support extreme abortion laws but just wants it to be a  states rights issue. Good luck with that.

If that is the case he's going about it in a strange way................Articles from the NZ Herald and NY Post.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/donald-trump-cheers-the-defeat-of-megan-rapinoe-and-the-us-womens-football-team

 

Trump Cheers the Defeat of Rapinoe and the U.S. Women’s Soccer Team

The former president taunted a U.S. team after its defeat on the world stage.

Edited August 8, 2023 by xylophone

[Berkshire]

10 minutes ago, xylophone said:

If that is the case he's going about it in a strange way................Articles from the NZ Herald and NY Post.

 

Trump Cheers the Defeat of Rapinoe and the U.S. Women’s Soccer Team

The former president taunted a U.S. team after its defeat on the world stage.

This is so classic Trump.  The guy really wants the US to fail when he's not in charge.  So he can blame the guy in charge.  Not just in sports but in everything.  He would love it if the US economy went down the toilet, inflation through the roof, unemployment at 20%, stock market crash, World War III....Trump would be doing cartwheels.  Because he doesn't care about America or the people suffering.  It's all about him and taking credit.  That's just how he rolls.