jacko45k Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 5 hours ago, bignbad said: I have been to Kuwait, and do not remember any motorbike traffic, apart from 'other nationalities' working as delivery riders. Might have seen some police on bikes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 I am deeply disturbed that the recent liaison visit by the Kuwait Ambassador has done nothing to curb this diisturbing activity. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpcoe Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 8 hours ago, PETERTHEEATER said: I am deeply disturbed that the recent liaison visit by the Kuwait Ambassador has done nothing to curb this diisturbing activity. ???? Why not go a step further, and have the Thai government send an official statement to the Kuwaiti government (or directly to the emir?) about the situation and how these youngsters' actions are painting their country in a most negative matter. Perhaps even a subtle suggestion that Kuwaitis may be banned from Thailand. And, maybe include photos of the youngsters with or without names. Not sure how strict Kuwait is in punishment, but if it's like some of its neighboring countries, swift justice could put an end to the noisy bike riders. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 On 7/31/2023 at 5:17 PM, snoop1130 said: drove loudly up and down the street without any regard for traffic rules. They also claimed the riders never wore helmets and had no valid licenses or insurance. Shocking. Absolutely shocking. What on Earth gave them the idea that this type of behaviour would be tolerated in Thailand?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montnoveau Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 15 hours ago, BangkokReady said: Shocking. Absolutely shocking. What on Earth gave them the idea that this type of behaviour would be tolerated in Thailand?!! Even if a local gets away with breaking the (even an unenforced such) law doesn't mean every tourist gets that right too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Montnoveau said: Even if a local gets away with breaking the (even an unenforced such) law doesn't mean every tourist gets that right too. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 minute ago, BangkokReady said: Exactly. And rightly too, a tourist/guest should be on good behaviour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, jacko45k said: And rightly too, a tourist/guest should be on good behaviour! No. The law applies to everyone the same. "Thai people shouldn't have to follow the law, but foringers must." - Bizarre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: No. The law applies to everyone the same. "Thai people shouldn't have to follow the law, but foringers must." - Bizarre Never can be, locals can't be punished the same, ie deported. Some laws in themselves are foreigner specific..... Then there is the xenophobia we get here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 On 7/31/2023 at 5:36 PM, Danny Australia said: How the residents of the area would have possibly known that? Did they personally check the papers of each rider? Yes, the riders have been an ongoing problem in that area but that last statement just biased and ridiculous. Their allegation could also be correct. How could you know that it is "biased and ridiculous" unless you've personally checked the papers of each rider? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 On 8/1/2023 at 8:36 AM, Henryford said: On 8/1/2023 at 6:40 AM, smedly said: confiscate the bikes, the renters will soon stop renting to them Not the renters fault It is if the rental companies don't check that the renters have valid licences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 On 8/1/2023 at 9:01 AM, jaideedave said: ...most likely some cops may own some of the rental shops Most likely? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) On 8/1/2023 at 11:41 AM, pattjock said: Take a quick look at the big bikes at the rental places and you will find that nearly all of them have illegal aftermarket "silencers" What makes them illegal? As long as they produce less than 95Db they'd be legal, surely? Why do you say that most of them exceed that? Edited August 2, 2023 by Liverpool Lou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 16 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: It is if the rental companies don't check that the renters have valid licences. They can't read Arabic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 2 hours ago, jacko45k said: 19 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: It is if the rental companies don't check that the renters have valid licences. They can't read Arabic! They're in English and Arabic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattjock Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 19 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: What makes them illegal? As long as they produce less than 95Db they'd be legal, surely? Why do you say that most of them exceed that? According to Thai law it's illegal to make alterations to the exhaust system, original parts must be used. It does not matter if the result is less than 95db. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 29 minutes ago, pattjock said: According to Thai law it's illegal to make alterations to the exhaust system, original parts must be used. It does not matter if the result is less than 95db. Where is it stated that non-manufacturers' parts are illegal if they meet the required standards and that nothing other than those produced by the manufacturers are permitted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: They're in English and Arabic! I know that! So in two foreign languages both with unfamiliar scripts! I just expect determining if it includes a motor cycle is not so easy. Edited August 3, 2023 by jacko45k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 51 minutes ago, jacko45k said: 1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said: They're in English and Arabic! I know that! So in two foreign languages both with unfamiliar scripts! I just expect determining if it includes a motor cycle is not so easy. You think that Thai bike shops are unfamiliar with understanding English as it relates to their businesses!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Just now, Liverpool Lou said: You think that Thai bike shops are unfamiliar with understanding English as it relates to their businesses!? Not the shops, the people who work in them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, jacko45k said: Not the shops, the people who work in them. Ho, ho, ho, very witty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattjock Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 21 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: What makes them illegal? As long as they produce less than 95Db they'd be legal, surely? Why do you say that most of them exceed that? First, I have never seen anyone changing to an exhaust system that make less noise, at least not in Thailand. The laws here are pretty much the same as in all other countries. All vehicles have been type approved and any changes from original must be approved and checked by DLT. Change of appearance, like color, must be approved and entered in the book. Performance changes must be approved. Environmental changes like exhaust gases and sound must be approved. Safety changes like lowering the drivers visibility, tinting, must be approved. All this is outlined in government regulations, same as in most other countries. The difference here is that no one cares and there is no or little enforcement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 20 hours ago, pattjock said: Safety changes like lowering the drivers visibility, tinting, Where are the "window tinting standards" to which you refer to be found? Here's a clue, there are none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 20 hours ago, pattjock said: First, I have never seen anyone changing to an exhaust system that make less noise, at least not in Thailand. What about normal maintenance replacement of corroded exhausts? Not every motorcyclist is a pseudo "racer". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 20 hours ago, pattjock said: Environmental changes like exhaust gases and sound must be approved. So you're blindly assuming that every replacement exhaust system doesn't meet approved standards? Are you part of a standards checking team here that goes around repair shop and dealers to check their inventory? I didn't realise that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattjock Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: Where are the "window tinting standards" to which you refer to be found? Here's a clue, there are none. It's clearly stated in the vehicle act that you are not allowed to lower the windscreen visibility from original. If you do so the change must be approved by DLT. There is no mentioning of tinting per say but tinting lowers the visibility and must be approved. I have no clue what standards they use for approval. Like I said before, conforming with regulations and enforcement is not a big thing in Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarraMarra Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 Something doesn't add up to me most of the bikes are PCX's with modified Exhausts. These Kuwait'i "tourists" are they hiring a PCX and taking it to a Bike Garage to get the exhaust changed then when they return the bike if rented back to the rental shop replace the boy racer silencer with the original silencer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winky Wilson Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Spoiled rich kids come to Thailand because they can pay for anything and move on to the next thrill. They will pay the cheif what he wants and the soldiers will chase them down again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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