snoop1130 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 BANGKOK, Aug 9 (TNA) – Pheu Thai leader Cholnan Srikaew and Paetongtarn Shinawatra have led the team to hold talks with the Move Forward party for the first time after it broke away from the MOU of the formation of the eight-party coalition and sidelined the Move Forward party. The Pheu Thai team, also comprising deputy leader Phumtham Wechayachai, secretary-general Prasert Chantararuangthong and party-list MP Suriya Juangroongruangkit walked from the Pheu Thai headquarters to the nearby Thai Summit Tower Wednesday afternoon. It is expected that Pheu Thai will ask for support from the MFP to vote for Pheu Thai candidate in the next prime ministerial vote to break the political deadlock. Full Story: https://tna.mcot.net/english-news-1220727 -- © Copyright Thai News Agency 2023-08-09 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrMojoRisin Posted August 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 In the name of peace, progress, reconciliation, unity, the nation's economy and the future of the Thai people, I hereby decl.... Oh, wait. He's not here yet. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted August 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2023 PT is certainly a step up from the TAP (Toxic army party). But it is still a stolen election, essentially. And the proxy senators still deserve to be shamed and humiliated. 11 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ikke1959 Posted August 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2023 They don't have any shame... As soon as in the first round Pita was rejected, they stood up to take over. Not waiting till the verdict of the CC. Now they are coming back to beg their support of course as they know it will be difficult without them. As MFP is wise , they stay aside now and let PT fail... 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post lordgrinz Posted August 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2023 I would hope MFP says "NO" if any Junta aligned parties are in the PT coalition. 4 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted August 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Pheu Thai leader Cholnan Srikaew and Paetongtarn Shinawatra have led the team to hold talks with the Move Forward party for the first time after it broke away from the MOU of the formation of the eight-party coalition and sidelined the Move Forward party. After tearing up their MOU MFP should tell PTP to go run and jump Edited August 9, 2023 by hotchilli 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post champers Posted August 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2023 MFP backing a Pheu Thai PM candidate will keep the junta parties out. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 23 minutes ago, champers said: MFP backing a Pheu Thai PM candidate will keep the junta parties out. Only for PM election, not for the government. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dogmatix Posted August 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2023 8 hours ago, ikke1959 said: They don't have any shame... As soon as in the first round Pita was rejected, they stood up to take over. Not waiting till the verdict of the CC. Now they are coming back to beg their support of course as they know it will be difficult without them. As MFP is wise , they stay aside now and let PT fail... Not let PT fail. Let them be successful in what Thaksin has been busy negotiating with Pravit for the last two years. MFP will lose support from its own voters if it supports these shysters and votes for the expert tax avoidance for rich planner. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mfd101 Posted August 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) I'm an MFP supporter but I think many of the commentaries here and on other OPs are mistaken in assuming that the processes that would follow an election in The Wunnerful West where NOONE won a majority (ie 50% +1 of the seats in the Lower House) would be much different from here - all parties jostling for position, largest party gets first try, if that doesn't work 2nd party gets a go ... Of course the Senate issue is different here but that's mostly a problem in appointing a PM, not in daily governance. So what happens in The Wunnerful West when it turns out that NOONE can form a majority government? The new Parliament is dissolved and the pollies go back to the electors for a 2nd round of voting. And that is what should happen here now. My main point is that all the stuff about MFP being done down despite them 'winning the election' is nonsense. They won the largest number of seats of any party in the Lower House but not a majority. I hope they'll win a clear majority when the next election is held. Edited August 10, 2023 by mfd101 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouatchee Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 11 hours ago, ikke1959 said: As MFP is wise , they stay aside now and let PT fail... if they were wise they would have kept their clappers shut about law 112 until they actually had been voted into power. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenStark Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 3 hours ago, champers said: MFP backing a Pheu Thai PM candidate will keep the junta parties out. Why you not tell the class how backing for PM has any guarantee on who sits in the government? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 I'd like to know what MFP will get in return for their PT support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lordgrinz Posted August 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2023 20 minutes ago, damian said: I'd like to know what MFP will get in return for their PT support. Probably another knife in the back, lets hope they learned something from the first time. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikke1959 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Pouatchee said: if they were wise they would have kept their clappers shut about law 112 until they actually had been voted into power. I am wondering what will happen if Pheu Thai is the Government and suddenly as they are already untrustworthy start to talk about changing section 112...Would that be accepted?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hunz Kittisak Posted August 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2023 Do everything to keep the 2 uncles out! that should be the first and foremost priority 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bannork Posted August 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2023 2 hours ago, mfd101 said: I'm an MFP supporter but I think many of the commentaries here and on other OPs are mistaken in assuming that the processes that would follow an election in The Wunnerful West where NOONE won a majority (ie 50% +1 of the seats in the Lower House) would be much different from here - all parties jostling for position, largest party gets first try, if that doesn't work 2nd party gets a go ... Of course the Senate issue is different here but that's mostly a problem in appointing a PM, not in daily governance. So what happens in The Wunnerful West when it turns out that NOONE can form a majority government? The new Parliament is dissolved and the pollies go back to the electors for a 2nd round of voting. And that is what should happen here now. My main point is that all the stuff about MFP being done down despite them 'winning the election' is nonsense. They won the largest number of seats of any party in the Lower House but not a majority. I hope they'll win a clear majority when the next election is held. The senators mean everything here. If the senators had no vote regarding the PM, as is the norm, MF and PT would have been running the government since May. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 5 hours ago, hotchilli said: After tearing up their MOU MFP should tell PTP to go run and jump Correct, we MFP got the majority of votes and in the interest of the country we are offering you the opportunity to work and support us for the betterment of Thailand - it is either yes or no, there is no compromise, you are either with us or it's bye bye. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 15 hours ago, ikke1959 said: They don't have any shame... As soon as in the first round Pita was rejected, they stood up to take over. Not waiting till the verdict of the CC. Now they are coming back to beg their support of course as they know it will be difficult without them. As MFP is wise , they stay aside now and let PT fail... Bingo Thanksin in the wings, army no further moves to make. Let PT think it’s in-reach and flail and fail. CC over reached on as expected, but on totally ridiculous reasoning. Sorry Charlie; executors are not owners, shut down companies are not influencers. Time to let the Thai people have their way when the crooks can’t get it done. Sure beats more tanks in the streets and more dead Uni students. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Assuming MF don't vote for Settha as PM, PT will use this rejection to invite Pravit's and/ or Prayuth's party(ies) to join PT in forming the government. ' People! We had no choice, MF wouldn't vote for Settha, the cry babies, so we must put the party, no, no, I mean the country first and invite the junta parties to join us. ' PT, you had a choice. To stick with M F through thick and thin, but you abandoned the one party that has ideals and is prepared to stand by them Shame on you, spineless and mealy mouthed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithsimmonds Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 2 hours ago, bannork said: The senators mean everything here. If the senators had no vote regarding the PM, as is the norm, MF and PT would have been running the government since May. I think the Senators come the next vote for Pm (PT,s candidate) are in no man,s land....should Mf start voting for the PT candidate are senators going to smell rat and think the so called torn up MOU agreement is back in place? There only safe option might be to abstain ..yet again? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 3 hours ago, BenStark said: Why you not tell the class how backing for PM has any guarantee on who sits in the government? Sure. MFP voting for a Pheu Thai candidate for PM will mean that no senate votes are required. 238 Pheu Thai coalition+150 MFP = 388. As for the cabinet, there will be no need for the military backed parties, according to Pheu Thai. They reckon they will garner enough support in the house to pass legislation. Even MFP may vote in favour of Pheu Thai legislation if it aligns with their own thinking. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 2 hours ago, bannork said: The senators mean everything here. If the senators had no vote regarding the PM, as is the norm, MF and PT would have been running the government since May. Where-in was the problem, couldn't let the fairly elected rabble run the country as its ours, ours, ours - we own it, it's ours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, champers said: Sure. MFP voting for a Pheu Thai candidate for PM will mean that no senate votes are required. 238 Pheu Thai coalition+150 MFP = 388. As for the cabinet, there will be no need for the military backed parties, according to Pheu Thai. They reckon they will garner enough support in the house to pass legislation. Even MFP may vote in favour of Pheu Thai legislation if it aligns with their own thinking. You've left out the elephant in the room, or rather Toni the Tiger. No Pravit in the government maybe no Thaksin coming home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, bannork said: You've left out the elephant in the room, or rather Toni the Tiger. No Pravit in the government maybe no Thaksin coming home. A good outcome. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, bannork said: You've left out the elephant in the room, or rather Toni the Tiger. No Pravit in the government maybe no Thaksin coming home. I don't see that as a bad thing. He is as out of touch as the generals. Thailand will manage without him, I am sure. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 18 hours ago, ikke1959 said: They don't have any shame... As soon as in the first round Pita was rejected, they stood up to take over. Not waiting till the verdict of the CC. Now they are coming back to beg their support of course as they know it will be difficult without them. As MFP is wise , they stay aside now and let PT fail... I agree. I just don't see the wisdom in joining this so called coalition. Wouldn't it be like giving up on the mission? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post champers Posted August 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: I agree. I just don't see the wisdom in joining this so called coalition. Wouldn't it be like giving up on the mission? MFP do not have to officially join Pheu Thai's coalition (PT won't have them in anyway) but they have choices to make about how they vote as a bloc. Keeping Pheu Thai in power versus allowing the generals back in? Which is worse? They are playing hard to get and their support will be at a cost. What is their price (I don't mean financially)? They can afford to play a long game, looking 4 years ahead. Good luck to them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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