Insanitee @ Jomtien immigration.

[Olmate]

3 minutes ago, The Patriat said:

When the Verdict comes out news Reporters will be talked with at the court house two translators will be in the courtroom so there is no chance of mis understand translation between languages I my self requested a second translator as a backup Incase the first translator is unfamiliar with a English speaking word then the backup translator is to take over to speak all areas on the prosecution side are being backed up and covered so all is understood and spoken truthfully nothing will be held back I have lots ved here a long time they just target d the wrong person and I am big on prosecution with in courtroom it does not matter in Civil or Crimminal the Truth of what's going on will come out to expose massive corruption and abuse from Thai immigration officers I stand up for all foriegnors who hold a passport to be able to live and stay long term with in the country of Thailand this has been building up for a long time so the evidence is large and it can not be denied with I am limited what I can say here cause all will be spoke with in the Crimminal Court House and I am not nervous at all I am doing what's needs to be exposed for us Foriegnors benefit otherwise we all need to vacate Thailand cause of it's massive immigration corruption and with in tourism section too immigration is to be blamed for Thailand's economy and touwill.give you verdict and update after court is over and done with rism failures who is the first people that you see here and they usually do not show respect or treat you respectfully as a human your just a number or a Bank ,or a ATM Machine or or a Money Tree to them it's that simply said I will give a verdict and update after all the court case is completed and I have Law Background behind me in Education too 

Probably best if you dont utter one word in court if this rant is an example of whats to come.

[The Patriat]

5 hours ago, Eff1n2ret said:

...etc., etc.,

Sir, your prose style makes it difficult to understand the substance of your beef with Immigration, and in an earlier post you alleged that they had doctored your passport. I accept that you can't reveal more detail of your pending court case, but I do agree with the point I think you're making in the section I've highlighted.

 

Money in the bank obviously doesn't prove income, and there is a flaw in the system, because if someone on a retirement extension is landed with a large bill, say for medical treatment, which must be paid during the seven months of the year when the account balance must be at least 800k then that person must find the money from somewhere else or else he will not qualify for another extension. In that sense the money in the bank offers no guarantee of someone's ability to support them self, and it opens the door for agents to employ the workarounds with which we are all familiar.

 

Your faith in the Thai legal system is touching, and I'm not sure whether to wish you good luck. If you did succeed in your mission to cleanse the Augean Stable that Jomtien Immigration allegedly is, the consequences might be unfortunate for quite a lot of people.

 

Edit: It's 5 months for 800k, then 7 months for 400k

I totally understand your wording and you think the same way I do I even have been sent registered letters by postal mail to sign for from Division One of Immigration from a Colonel in Thai Immigration the letter sent to me is all and nothing but lies to form a total coverup but I am not buying the colonels registered letter written in it's Thai text as the letter was translated to English  it's all to try to coverup all of there wrong doing actions ( This is Fact)

[FridgeMagnet1]

5 hours ago, Eff1n2ret said:

...etc., etc.,

Sir, your prose style makes it difficult to understand the substance of your beef with Immigration, and in an earlier post you alleged that they had doctored your passport. I accept that you can't reveal more detail of your pending court case, but I do agree with the point I think you're making in the section I've highlighted.

 

Money in the bank obviously doesn't prove income, and there is a flaw in the system, because if someone on a retirement extension is landed with a large bill, say for medical treatment, which must be paid during the seven months of the year when the account balance must be at least 800k then that person must find the money from somewhere else or else he will not qualify for another extension. In that sense the money in the bank offers no guarantee of someone's ability to support themself, and it opens the door for agents to employ the workarounds with which we are all familiar.

 

Your faith in the Thai legal system is touching, and I'm not sure whether to wish you good luck. If you did succeed in your mission to cleanse the Augean Stable that Jomtien Immigration allegedly is, the consequences might be unfortunate for quite a lot of people.

 

Edit: It's 5 months for 800k, then 7 months for 400k

I can’t really understand what his specific complaint is (other than the “doctored passport” thing, which sound like nonsense.

 

seems like he doesn’t like the 800K BHT rule and wants to put the whole damn system on trail?

 

(actually I think he’s just on a wind up)

[The Patriat]

18 hours ago, JimTripper said:

Is BS buddy. You’ll get this kind of thing all over the longer you stay here. It’s not just at immigration. 

I am knowledgeable  of other corruption cases filed against other departments and offices with in Thailand but I will not speak out for the other complaintent who individually filed there own personal Criminal Evidence  Corruption Cases each one filed is another Bowling Pin Knocked down and removed from the system in corruption and handcuffs are administered to the corruptive individuals involved in there corruptive action (  if you know of corruption call the Hot Line 1205 or there Direct Line (66) 02 - 528 - 4800 this is not to immigration this is a independent investigation organization to investigate corruption they are known as the NACC or National Anti Corruption Commission Located in Nonthaburi after you call them you will need to submit your corruption evidence in text printed out form then you will be issued a civil court case or a Crimminal Case number and a case number Document these are REAL People they are Handling my entire case plus Thai to English and English to Thai Voice Translators with in the court room I requested a extra translator besides the one translators they are providing free of Charge on my End so the case is completely understood Incase one translators does not understand a English word spoken then the backup translator takes over  so all words are understood being spoken and  Heard with in the Crimminal Court 

[The Patriat]

4 hours ago, Khyron said:

I wish you luck but spellcheck is your friend. Punctuation would make it readable too. I am afraid you may stir up the wasp nest and make issues for the rest of us, but hey, I have been wrong before, and will be wrong again in the future.

You have know clue I have been threatened by immigration officers threatening me with lawsuits when I catch them doing wrong I told them to fill out there law suit papers if the mis information I do counter sue my punctuation is fine maybe my correctly spelled words you have your own room at of spelling the words but my text is spelled correctly I don't use commas or periods on forums you can figure the wording from start to finish on each section on your own thinking the Wasp Needs to be stirred up but we deserve more common sense proper procedures in a visa process then what is presently provided currently the current process is loaded with corruption read law books to decifer if you understand crimminal law or civil law like I do I am very comfortable about my case and I showed a Thai Crimminal Prosecutor my full case I asked did he want to handle the case for me but unfortunately he in the last few weeks was put in a Bangkok Hospital cause of a heart attack or at stroke at age 79 he was still practicing Crimminal Prosecution Law on Crimminals or Crimminal or Corruption matters he will probably sit in the courtroom during my case hearing either way he spent 3 weeks in the ICU section of the hospital but he is now alive and back together again he is a all business crimminal prosecuting lawyer in laksi courts his  experience is over 40 years 

[The Patriat]

1 hour ago, The Patriat said:

It will be made Publix c I am standing up for all Foriegnor holding a passport who live in Thailand the entire case covers about all visas Retirement Business Visa's and Marriage to a Thai wife the entire case is a Full Crimminal Case it's exposing corruption with in all immigration offices nationally I have lived here since September 2006 and major visa corruption started back in March 2018 this is all going to the Crimminal Court and I am the Prosecution and immigration is the defendant there's videos too plus photos and lots of text Details I am on a Marriage visa and immigration manipulated my American passport after 13 years of Thai wife visa's with zero problems then 2018 immigrations n became like wild dogs in the African safari there is a very Large impact statement cost in harassment and abuse there gonna have to pay , ( this case has been building for 5 years ) I turned in my evidence to a investigation department who investigates corruption with in 12 minutes I was issued my crimminal case and foriegn affairs in down town Bangkok takes my side and disagrees with Thai Immigration on getting issuing visa stamp by showing the present way to prove your side income it's a Extortion Process Currently that's totally Illegal 

The Final Verdict will become Public known I have lived here since September 2006 You All Will either see my story on Thai Television News or it will be all over local news papers including international news reportors will be around it will all become public exposure knowledge and yes I will be wearing a Teflon  Bullet Proof Protection under my Business Suiti have no fear and when I left ved in USA I owned and carried a .045 H&K  with a carry Permit I have No Fear 

[The Patriat]

2 hours ago, Phulublub said:

While English is clearly not your first language, you should ensure that when you deal with the Court, that you can communicate clearly and effectively - the above extract makes no sense whatsoever to the reader.

 

PH

I am American born and raised in the United States and your knowledge of proper spelling in English is probably not up to par but I was a A Student in English on this text I do not use punctuation of commas or periods you figure out the phrases unless your uneducated and did not graduate high School or College I did both and have graduated with Diplomas and Degrees Too ( Go Get Your own Self Educated it could make Yourself a Difference To it Could Help your IQ Too )

[KhunLA]

14 minutes ago, The Patriat said:

I am American born and raised in the United States and your knowledge of proper spelling in English is probably not up to par but I was a A Student in English on this text I do not use punctuation of commas or periods you figure out the phrases unless your uneducated and did not graduate high School or College I did both and have graduated with Diplomas and Degrees Too ( Go Get Your own Self Educated it could make Yourself a Difference To it Could Help your IQ Too )

Comma, periods & paragraphs make for easier reading, if you want people to even bother.

 

I actually overuse punctuation (periods) and probably annoys some folks, but also found many can't seem to separate thoughts very good when reading.

 

Not that it helps with some folks' reading comprehension.

Edited August 23, 2023 by KhunLA

[The Patriat]

On 8/22/2023 at 2:06 PM, Photoguy21 said:

I know this is surprising but the USA does not call the shots in other countries. If that is what IO wants them give it to them and avoid the hassle.

The U S State Department in Washington DC calls the final  Decision making for all USA Embassies world Wide I have been in Deep Conversation with the highest Consultate Officer at the US Embassy on a wireless Road here in Bangkok our entire conversation took place in a room that had pink noise running in the Background so no one outside the conference room could pickup what we were talking cause it was considered sensitive information discussed but I was informed that the US Embassy on Wireless Road does basic stuff like report birth or death or a injured or arrested American  if immigration related things like passports are done through postal mail ONLY Now if immigration related issues Thai Immigration here has to contact the US State department in Washington DC as the Local USA Embassy does NOT get involved since September 11, 2001 incidents with the commercial  airliners being used as missile in to the world trade centers in New York  or the Pentagon near Washington Dc or the open field in Pennsylvania where the one plane passengers caused the crash of that plane to eliminate others to get hurt or injured so all passengers gave up there life's to save others on the ground ( True Facts)

[scottiejohn]

26 minutes ago, The Patriat said:

I am American born and raised in the United States and your knowledge of proper spelling in English is probably not up to par but I was a A Student in English on this text I do not use punctuation of commas or periods you figure out the phrases unless your uneducated and did not graduate high School or College I did both and have graduated with Diplomas and Degrees Too ( Go Get Your own Self Educated it could make Yourself a Difference To it Could Help your IQ Too )

I assume it must have been an online course in a third language!

As such, If you paid for your student English course, I suggest you claim your money back!

Edited August 23, 2023 by scottiejohn

[FridgeMagnet1]

Anyone have a clue what this guy’s going on about? 
 

 

[scottiejohn]

1 minute ago, FridgeMagnet1 said:

Anyone have a clue what this guy’s going on about? 
 

 

NO!

[The Patriat]

20 hours ago, ericthai said:

Good luck with that!! 

you'll get the dog and pony show and then in the end it will be determined it was a misunderstanding. 

You do realize Thailand is corrupt to the core. 

I know and realize more then you yourself know I have lived here since September 2006 lots of Evidence it is by No Means is just a Mis - Understanding  it's Full Crimminal Evidence Fully Exposed there are many threats of Lawsuits from immigration Loud Mouths ( I told them to go fill them out I will be waiting for them to arrive)  but I have not received a valid Lawsuit received as of Now!  still waiting and I do countersue for dis information or False Information too my evidence please let is thick and photos and lots of Videos immigrations 1178 is useless if you have corruption to exposed call 1205 or local  (66) 02- 528 - 4800 you will be calling the NACC  they are known as "National Anti Corruption Commission " there in Nonthaburi you will need to provide text probably need out on paper to submit to get given a civil or a Crimminal case number these People are a independent Organization they are not funded or Run by the Thailand Government They are 100 Real Legit there handling my Entire Case my case was filed June 24, 2022 and goes to Crimminal Court September 2023 or October 2023 waiting for actual date now 

Edited August 23, 2023 by The Patriat
Wrong wording

[FridgeMagnet1]

14 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

NO!

I think it’s someone trying out a Chatbot?

[The Patriat]

2 hours ago, Olmate said:

Probably best if you dont utter one word in court if this rant is an example of whats to come.

My text submitted evidence is written with Details here I don't say much cause of the case it is it will become public my investigators are ALL IN on this case they know my details are accurate and they have been verified in one way or another to get Validity as to the evidence filed and submitted to start the case number to be generated as A FULL Crimminal Case 

[Lucky Bones]

4 minutes ago, FridgeMagnet1 said:

I think it’s someone trying out a Chatbot?

Or my cat has been into the catnip again.????????

[DrJack54]

25 minutes ago, FridgeMagnet1 said:

Anyone have a clue what this guy’s going on about? 
 

 

It occurs when someone is off their meds.

Surely this thread has run it's course. 

 

Edited August 23, 2023 by DrJack54

[The Patriat]

1 hour ago, FridgeMagnet1 said:

I can’t really understand what his specific complaint is (other than the “doctored passport” thing, which sound like nonsense.

 

seems like he doesn’t like the 800K BHT rule and wants to put the whole damn system on trail?

 

(actually I think he’s just on a wind up)

This is regarding all visa programs Retirement Visa, Business Visa and Marriage Visa so you know if they get there way in October 2023 retirement visa's could go to 900,000 baht  the case involves LTR Visa's as well LTR Visa's are all cancelled for applying for new as of August 15, 2023 and Yes att Categories regarding Thai all Long Stay Visa's are Going to a Crimminal Trial us Foriegnors need a less Corruption process to getting a Visa not just a process to throw money 800,000 Retirement Visa ( in October it could raise 100,000 Thai Baht to 900,000 ),or 600,000 in Bank local Thai  Bank  Account plus 80k Thai baht monthly income for a Business Visa or 400,000 Thai wife Marriage in to a local bank account un-invested account pays interest out no more then 1.9 % do the math the money could be invested some where more legit to prove Real Legit Income if Invested Correctly plus your daily work job 

[FridgeMagnet1]

4 minutes ago, The Patriat said:

This is regarding all visa programs Retirement Visa, Business Visa and Marriage Visa so you know if they get there way in October 2023 retirement visa's could go to 900,000 baht  the case involves LTR Visa's as well LTR Visa's are all cancelled for applying for new as of August 15, 2023 and Yes att Categories regarding Thai all Long Stay Visa's are Going to a Crimminal Trial us Foriegnors need a less Corruption process to getting a Visa not just a process to throw money 800,000 Retirement Visa ( in October it could raise 100,000 Thai Baht to 900,000 ),or 600,000 in Bank local Thai  Bank  Account plus 80k Thai baht monthly income for a Business Visa or 400,000 Thai wife Marriage in to a local bank account un-invested account pays interest out no more then 1.9 % do the math the money could be invested some where more legit to prove Real Legit Income if Invested Correctly plus your daily work job 

Ah I see! You don’t like the current rules so are taking the government to court. 

 

on behalf of everyone.

 

 

thanks for that, let us know how you get on 

[Lemsta69]

3 hours ago, The Patriat said:

I am standing up for all Foriegnor holding a passport who live in Thailand

You're not representing me Mac, I'm a fan of visa agents and all that that entails. Long may the current system reign and woe betide anyone who gets in its way.

[The Patriat]

22 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

It occurs when someone is off their meds.

Surely this thread has run it's course. 

 

The National Anti Corruption Commission is Handling the Entire case they Understand the case Clearly and so does Down Town Foriegn Affairs in Bangkok Too  to you all clueless people come October All Immigration visa Rules and Regulations will changes it's been posted public knowledge already ( And I am not on medication you just need to stop puffing on your weeds )  ( and You face Reality ) 

[CartagenaWarlock]

On 8/21/2023 at 3:30 AM, GypsyT said:

Same happened to me @ Jomtien last winter.

They told "Go and get owners Book Book or something like that. PLUS TM30'.

I didn't get TM30 when I walked in on visa-free 30 day rule.

I also stayed in a hotel and had all payment receipts.

They didn't care, "Go to HOTEL Owner to get papers!"

"But the hotel is owner by an Japanese company".

"Then go to Japan!"

 

I turned, took two steps and stepped to next line and the girl who came to handle my case accepted my papers...

 

I believe they are rude to get all to use agents so they get CASH share of them...

During my waiting I saw two agents with stack of passports; first 35 pcs, then 55 pcs.

My case took over 7 hours...

Yes, they are unfortunate not to be able to earn in dollars. But millions of tourists get their 30-day extension without any problems. If you're having problem, it is your fault not to stay in an legitimate hotel that registers their guests with immigration services for TM30. 

[DrJack54]

19 minutes ago, The Patriat said:

The National Anti Corruption Commission is Handling the Entire case they Understand the case Clearly and so does Down Town Foriegn Affairs in Bangkok Too  to you all clueless people come October All Immigration visa Rules and Regulations will changes it's been posted public knowledge already ( And I am not on medication you just need to stop puffing on your weeds )  ( and You face Reality ) 

You can continue your rants in various threads.

It is very boring.

Actually I find it embarrassing for you.

 

You have issues with immigration fine.

Most of us do not.

There is a saying...Get over it.

Your "criminal case" will be a train wreck.

 

The OP was asking simple question and you sidetracked it with series of rants.

Not only in this thread. 

Edited August 23, 2023 by DrJack54

[Ralf001]

4 hours ago, The Patriat said:

 I am standing up for all Foriegnor holding a passport who live in Thailand 

Yeah.. nah you aint standing up for me.

[NoDisplayName]

21 hours ago, The Patriat said:

but they use the money in a local bank account to prove as income but it's fake income is based at 12 months or one year not just two months before visa renewal plus the visa renewal month of the visa stamp then some officer have you come back to see the money still in the account or they void your visa but in actuality for money in a bank account whether Thai wife visa or business visa or retirement visa they do not know how to answer of what it's income really is and it's not enough that you CAN NOT Live off of it Alone so it's Corruption and fake

The 800K is NOT income..

 

65K/month IS income showing you have funds to support yourself monthly.

800K is a bank balance at the beginning of the year in lieu of income, showing you have ~65K per month over the entire year to support yourself.  Math says 65k*12=780K.

 

Don't wanna put 800K in the bank?  Transfer 65K/month.  Easy.

 

But sure.  File a court case.  That'll end well.

 

[metisdead]

12 hours ago, Marky Mark Mark said:

Moral of Story.

 

Screenshot of TM30 at jomtien isnt going to cut it.

 

 

The screeners want a hard copy of TM 30 and a Hotel confirmation.

 

I did get my extension.

 

 

 

 

As the OP has been successful with his TM30 and successfully got his extension, this topic is now closed. 

[BritTim]

6 hours ago, The Patriat said:

I am American born and raised in the United States and your knowledge of proper spelling in English is probably not up to par but I was a A Student in English on this text I do not use punctuation of commas or periods you figure out the phrases unless your uneducated and did not graduate high School or College I did both and have graduated with Diplomas and Degrees Too ( Go Get Your own Self Educated it could make Yourself a Difference To it Could Help your IQ Too )

Idothinkyouunderestimatethedifficultyofunderstandingtextthatisnotproperlypunctuatedandformatted.

[I do think you underestimate the difficulty of understanding text that is not properly punctuated and formatted.]

 

Seriously, do you expect the average non-native speaker of English to be able to parse 500 word posts with no punctuation or formatting? My reading comprehension in English is very good, but I would much rather read a technical paper on an obscure subject than try to decipher your posts.

 

[It would be amusing to use Google Translate to translate your posts into Chinese and back to English. I may try that when I have five minutes free.]