9 minutes ago, Captain Monday said:

What's wrong with the moka pot?

Nothing, it's great for home, no hassle of the machine, i even go to a coffee shop that only used moka pots 

10 minutes ago, Captain Monday said:

What's wrong with the moka pot?

Nothing... IMO they're awesome...    they also take a little practice to get the brew right.

i.e. ideal amount of coffee, right grind, right amount of heat not to get the water boiling too aggressively so it isn't forced to quickly through the filter (casing channelling and poorer extraction) and spitting out of the column etc... 

I bought my espresso machine & grinder from this shop on Facebook 3 years ago. No complaints whatsoever

 

Coffee Power เครื่องชงกาแฟ เชียงใหม่

 

They have a good range of espresso machines and grinders.

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

I had older Saeco for a short time, as someone gave it to me, from Hua Hin, a freebie, as it stopped working

That looks a lot like the one I had, I thought it was a pretty good machine.

10 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

20 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

But, its not quite the same as an Espresso machine

Nor is the price 

Indeed....    and from that perspective, IMO the best coffee for the price has to be from a Mokapot, or perhaps even coffee brewed Turkish style... 

 

That said, I've had my latest Machine for about 3 years now...   so it works out at about 45 baht per brew including the cost of coffee (calculated from the estimated amount of coffee I make at home)...

 

But as comparison, a Mokapot would coast 20 baht per brew.

 

BUT... anyone who purchases an Espresso Machine is not considering the cost comparison with other brewing methods...  they are simply wanting a method of extracting coffee which produces a textured, richer, fuller flavoured coffee... 

 

It is course down to personal tastes and you could go down the rabbit hole attempting to finesse the art of making the best cup of coffee, someone who just wants the caffeine hit may struggle with that, nevertheless...   given the results, the price was worth it for me.

 

 

 

 

 

11 minutes ago, TigerandDog said:

I bought my espresso machine & grinder from this shop on Facebook 3 years ago. No complaints whatsoever

 

Coffee Power เครื่องชงกาแฟ เชียงใหม่

 

They have a good range of espresso machines and grinders.

Any machine that can hold 9 bar consistently will do a great job...  

The rest comes down to the quality of grind, quality of coffee,  and quality of portafilter preparation (i.e. distribution and tamping), and of course the quality of the portafilter itself (consistent distribution and sizing of perforations).... 

 

Coffee gets somewhat complex... the more I learn, it seems the more there is to learn and I haven't even got as far as roasting my own coffee (yet).

 

At some point it evolves from making sure I enjoy my coffee to becoming somewhat of an interest, to a hobby to an obsession....

 

At the moment I'm at the 'interest stage' and hope to remain at this point.

 

I have friends who brew their own beer, they apply an obsessive level of detail and the end result is outrageously good, meanwhile I'd consider it a hobby, the are not obsessed and only brew when they have time. 

It is perhaps similar with coffee, it takes time, but once we have the routine down,  5 mins routine in the morning to brew an awesome cup seems well worth it. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

35 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Any machine that can hold 9 bar consistently will do a great job...  

The 'ignorant' mistake I made, when buying our 'coffee' machine.   As '15 bar' and I thought, if 9 is good, 15 should be better ... ????????????????

 

Un-adjustable and terrible extraction for espresso.  OK crema if using the pressurized portafilters.  Which didn't hold enough coffee for me, so bought larger naked one.  Works fine, but still pushes water through too fast, and bad extraction.

 

With all this crap, I prefer the drip cone ????

All taste about the same, and drip is easiest.

Wife enjoys the crema with the machine ????

Edited August 25, 20233 yr by KhunLA

I have a Saeco Lirika plus for about 5 years & no breakdowns, Automatic’  makes nice Cappuccino froths milk etc, not too expensive about 31k.

NL coffee has a good range of beans & equipment

1 minute ago, twizzian said:

I have a Saeco Lirika plus for about 5 years & no breakdowns, Automatic’  makes nice Cappuccino froths milk etc, not too expensive about 31k.

NL coffee has a good range of beans & equipment

Slightly different subject from the Op but the topic has naturally migrated... but still somewhat on topic as the coffee machines include a milk frothing wand, so thats part of the process when making a latte or capuccino... 

 

What milk do you find is best to make the rich micro-foam milk ??? 

 

I struggle to hit the perfect micro-foam texture with Mejii blue top... but haven't found anything better. 

 

14 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

What milk do you find is best to make the rich micro-foam milk ??? 

 

I struggle to hit the perfect micro-foam texture with Mejii blue top... but haven't found anything better. 

Dutch Mill whole milk, about the only thing I'll drink, or prefer to.  

 

Frothing wand, and same, can't seem to get good results.  So I use, an el' cheaper frother.  Think 60 baht from Daiso or <100 from LAZ.  And it's lasted a few years, still going.

Takes a sec to find sweet spot, after frothing, but then creates a nice vortex/whirlpool, and you can get the foam to any degree you want.

 

heat the milk in microwave, 30 ish second, 75ml for 200 ml (total) cappuccino.

 

Edited August 25, 20233 yr by KhunLA

I also hated Instant coffee until I tried Vietnamese G7. I can't travel w/o coffee....

 

I carry 110/220V water heater coil and make my coffee in waiting rooms, public places and even airplane toilet!

Water boiling coil, similar to this; https://www.amazon.com/Immersion-Portable-Reheater-Chocolate-Drinking/dp/B07VGXRBJV

Edited August 25, 20233 yr by GypsyT

5 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Slightly different subject from the Op but the topic has naturally migrated... but still somewhat on topic as the coffee machines include a milk frothing wand, so thats part of the process when making a latte or capuccino... 

 

What milk do you find is best to make the rich micro-foam milk ??? 

 

I struggle to hit the perfect micro-foam texture with Mejii blue top... but haven't found anything better. 

 

That’s a good question.

Ive tried all the usual brand milk, none froths any better than the other on my machine

I use a DeLonghi La Specialista .... fully adjustable grinder and fully adjustable  qty

Specialty beans "Brazil Santos" from a local roaster and use bottomless portafilters

I pull "2"   18gr shots @ 180ml each into my cup. @ 9bars.

then froth full whipping cream/ usually Magnolia brand 

Only use a manual filter now, boiling water over filter. no machines. Water does not get hot enough with the machines. I like the coffee hot, not warm.

 

it’s an art. Enjoy it.

Edited August 25, 20233 yr by JimTripper

1 hour ago, JimTripper said:

Only use a manual filter now, boiling water over filter. no machines. Water does not get hot enough with the machines. I like the coffee hot, not warm.

 

it’s an art. Enjoy it.

I use coffee pod machine the water gets really hot 

18 hours ago, dddave said:

I've had this OGGI coffee maker for 2 years now.  I like that it can use fresh ground as well as several different varieties of capsules for when I'm feeling lazy.  No built-in grinder though.

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/oggi-coffee-machine-capsule-mc2-plus-2023-i4572481424-s18654963325.html?

I also had this model, really liked it as you could use Nespresso or Dolce Gusto capsules as well as it came with a quality cartridge for your favorite ground. Unfortunately it died at the 2 year mark. I replaced it with a Krups Dolce machine that is easy but not flexible as the Oggi. 

10 hours ago, twizzian said:

That’s a good question.

Ive tried all the usual brand milk, none froths any better than the other on my machine

I only use full cream milk, not fussed about brand, and they all froth the same.

If you just want to push a button and have the machine do the rest, then I can recommend this Philips machine. I'm no coffee purist but people often compliment the coffee this machine makes.

 

Philips LatteGO Full Automatic Espresso Machine Philips LatteGO Full Automatic Espresso Machine EP5447/90

On 8/26/2023 at 10:38 AM, Taxi said:

If you just want to push a button and have the machine do the rest, then I can recommend this Philips machine. I'm no coffee purist but people often compliment the coffee this machine makes.

 

Philips LatteGO Full Automatic Espresso Machine Philips LatteGO Full Automatic Espresso Machine EP5447/90

Friend of mine has this one, he loves it. I'm considering it when I need to replace my current machine.

On 8/25/2023 at 4:02 PM, richard_smith237 said:

Slightly different subject from the Op but the topic has naturally migrated... but still somewhat on topic as the coffee machines include a milk frothing wand, so thats part of the process when making a latte or capuccino... 

 

What milk do you find is best to make the rich micro-foam milk ??? 

 

I struggle to hit the perfect micro-foam texture with Mejii blue top... but haven't found anything better. 

 

I use Meiji Gold Maxx, it works ok.

Maybe buy the same machine as in 7 Elevens then you know it will last a long time