Opinion Biden’s plot to send America back into lockdown must be stopped

[transam]

7 minutes ago, proton said:

Total embarrassment

 

 

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[Eleftheros]

10 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

When I read statistics that say an unvaccinated person is 6-7 times more likely to be admitted to an ICU than someone who is vaccinated against COVID, I recall  Einstein's observation on limits of the universe and human stupidity.

Me, too.

 

Because it shows that whoever is touting this "6-7" times figure has forgotten, failed to mention, didn't understand, or never knew the difference between Relative Risk and Absolute Risk.

[proton]

6 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Is this the best response that you can come up with?

 

It seems to me that you are the one who should be totally embarrassed.

I could come up with 50 but know what would happen. Incompetent geriatrics will always have their apologists, just as long as they are Democrats

[BangkokHank]

Since the lockdowns worked so well the first time around, who wouldn't want to have them imposed on us again?! Lockdowns can destroy the economy, not stop the spread of COVID, AND let the Democrats cheat their way into power again through the need for mail-in ballots. What's not to like about that?

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1 minute ago, proton said:

I could come up with 50 but know what would happen. Incompetent geriatrics will always have their apologists, just as long as they are Democrats

Start your own thread then.............

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Just now, BangkokHank said:

AND let the Democrats cheat their way into power again through the need for mail-in ballots. 

Not even Donald Trump's campaign  could come up with evidence that there was significant election fraud. They actually hired 2 separate teams of forensic evidence to try and come up with evidence that this was the case.  Even they found nothing. Please provide a link to a credible source that backs up your claim:

 

 Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source.

https://aseannow.com/forum/428-the-war-in-ukraine/

[Eleftheros]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

And many people died as a result of such foolishness. Not only that, but because hospitals were overloaded with vaccine refuseniks, people with other illnesses received a lower standard of care.

Well, foolishness has been the defining characteristic of the entire episode, all the way forward from January 2020 when the WHO was foolish enough to believe the Chinese Communist Party and tweeted out that there was "no evidence of human-to-human transmission" of SARS-Cov-2.

 

Since then, we have experienced a conga line of foolish decisions such as sending infected people to nursing homes, inappropriate ventilation of sick patients, closing schools, lockdown mandates, mask mandates, vaccine mandates and the rest of the arrogant nonsense peddled by incompetent authorities.

 

If they do mandate more lockdowns, that wouldn't be just foolish, that would be criminally foolish.

[herfiehandbag]

5 hours ago, impulse said:

Just in time to send millions of ballots to dead people so they don't have to expose themselves to to Covid in order to vote blue.

Aha, the Marjorie Tailor Green argument.

 

Thousands of dead people in Georgia voted - well 4 anyway!

[owl sees all]

5 hours ago, impulse said:

Just in time to send millions of ballots to dead people so they don't have to expose themselves to to Covid in order to vote blue.

 

They're going to have to hold a gun to my head if they want me to get another jab.  2-1/2 years later, I still haven't recovered feeling on the left side of my face, my balance or my energy that I lost a couple of days after my 2nd Pfizer.  When I first presented, the doctors said they didn't know what caused it, but it definitely wasn't the jab.  2 years later, they finally admitted it's a commonly reported side effect.

Effect; not 'side effect'.

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15 minutes ago, Eleftheros said:

Well, foolishness has been the defining characteristic of the entire episode, all the way forward from January 2020 when the WHO was foolish enough to believe the Chinese Communist Party and tweeted out that there was "no evidence of human-to-human transmission" of SARS-Cov-2.

 

Since then, we have experienced a conga line of foolish decisions such as sending infected people to nursing homes, inappropriate ventilation of sick patients, closing schools, lockdown mandates, mask mandates, vaccine mandates and the rest of the arrogant nonsense peddled by incompetent authorities.

 

If they do mandate more lockdowns, that wouldn't be just foolish, that would be criminally foolish.

In other words, on the issue of people dying unnecessarily because they refused to get vaccinated, you've got nothing.

[BangkokHank]

14 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Not even Donald Trump's campaign  could come up with evidence that there was significant election fraud. They actually hired 2 separate teams of forensic evidence to try and come up with evidence that this was the case.  Even they found nothing. Please provide a link to a credible source that backs up your claim:

 

 Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source.

https://aseannow.com/forum/428-the-war-in-ukraine/

Are you trying to convince ME that Biden won the election, or are you trying to convince YOURSELF? Given a choice between believing a biased, corrupt media - and my own eyes and common sense, I choose to believe what I see.

 

As for this website's requirement to quote "an approved credible source", that's just a feeble attempt to cover blatant censorship, as whatever proof I present that goes against this site's approved version of events would de facto be deemed neither approved nor credible. As such, it is pointless for me to try to argue with a person who has the right to censor anything I say.

[proton]

24 minutes ago, transam said:

Start your own thread then.............

stalker alert

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1 minute ago, proton said:

stalker alert

No, reader alert..............................????

[Chomper Higgot]

People who take the nonsense peddled in the OP calling other people stupid.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, BangkokHank said:

Are you trying to convince ME that Biden won the election, or are you trying to convince YOURSELF? Given a choice between believing a biased, corrupt media - and my own eyes and common sense, I choose to believe what I see.

 

As for this website's requirement to quote "an approved credible source", that's just a feeble attempt to cover blatant censorship, as whatever proof I present that goes against this site's approved version of events would de facto be deemed neither approved nor credible. As such, it is pointless for me to try to argue with a person who has the right to censor anything I say.

I see you have no evidence to offer against the fact that not even 2 independent teams of forensic investigators hired by the Trump campaign could come up with any evidence of significant voter fraud. But what matter the conclusions of those 2 teams compared to the probative value of your "common sense"? It is to laugh.

Edited August 27, 2023 by placeholder

[Eleftheros]

9 minutes ago, placeholder said:

In other words, on the issue of people dying unnecessarily because they refused to get vaccinated, you've got nothing.

Those certainly are other words.

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2 minutes ago, Eleftheros said:

Those certainly are other words.

And you certainly had nothing relevant to reply with on the subject of unnecessary deaths due to the refusal to be vaccinated with covid vaccines.

[JonnyF]

The left love to control.

 

Your language, your thoughts, your face coverings, your vaccinations, your money, their truth.

 

Ignore them.

[peter zwart]

On 8/25/2023 at 7:45 AM, Social Media said:

 

Just this week, an Atlanta college announced that they will reinstate mask mandates for students and faculty at their university. The Lionsgate film studio in Los Angeles has told their crews to wear masks again. The Biden administration is buying Covid equipment and hiring pandemic “safety protocol” officers. And the federal government is also sending $1.4 billion to defense contractors and pharmaceutical companies for more Covid “countermeasures” and vaccines. Does the lunacy ever stop?

The Covid fanatics’ nonsense never seems to end. In 20 years, we will still probably be prepping for our next lockdown and queuing for our 100th booster shot. And why would it end? Biden’s Project NextGen proves that no lessons have been learned from the last set of pandemic restrictions. Even the British government – certainly not one you could accuse of failure to lock down and vaccinate – is doing none of this.

We the people are sick of it, and are starting to resist. Only 17% of Americans got their Covid booster shot according to CDC data. Americans constantly read alarmist stories about new variants and potential future lockdowns, and have started saying “hell no” to the tyranny.

But it is easy to say things online, and much more difficult to muster the strength to refuse to comply in the face of shame, vitriol, and the admonishment of those around you.

 

I know just how hard it can be. I lived in Los Angeles for the bulk of the Covid pandemic, one of the cities where the draconian hammer stroke of the law fell the hardest. Everyday was a test of my patience. Every grocery store employee told me to wear a mask. Every bartender told me I couldn’t enter without a vaccine card. Every person walking down the street kept their six feet distance and wouldn’t look at you. It was truly a miserable place to live, for not just people like me who stood up to the mandates and tyranny, but for the people who complied as well. And now Biden wants to bring all this back again?

 

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As the so called leaders of the world getting more mental by the day its time for the people to be as a collective and stand up against these clowns. Otherwise the world is going to be a very nasty place to be. And for Mr Biden..........go play bingo.

[owl sees all]

4 hours ago, morrobay said:

I have always said the vaccines save lives in those with comorbidities like obesity, diabetis, hypertension, liver, kidney disease, cigarette smokers.But a healthy person should not risk the side effects of this stuff. And to those who say get vaccinated for the benafit of the general population: 1) the vaccines do not prevent transmission 2) It is  these self imposed unhealthy lifestyles that is more responsible for transmission between these sickly people 

I don't agree with you Sir.

 

The people that live with 'comorbidities' are the people most at risk if they take the jab. From the effects of the jab itself. Back in the day at medical school we called them 'underlying conditions'. After all; you wouldn't want to start cutting into them, or filling a patient with drugs, unless you knew. Same thing.

 

1) How do vaccines not stop transmission? A healthy person - vaxed or not - has nothing to transmit.

 

2) Is it not the un-healthy lifestyle that is responsible for ill-health? The jab cannot help; only make them more un-healthy.

 

 

 

Edited August 27, 2023 by owl sees all

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10 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

I don't agree with you Sir.

 

The people that live with 'comorbidities' are the people most at risk if they take the jab. From the effects of the jab itself. Back in the day at medical school we called them 'underlying conditions'. After all; you wouldn't want to start cutting into them, or filling a patient with drugs, unless you knew. Same thing.

I guess in Medical School they never go to the part about epidemiology and how mortality rates are determined before you left.

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[Bkk Brian]

16 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

I don't agree with you Sir.

 

The people that live with 'comorbidities' are the people most at risk if they take the jab. From the effects of the jab itself. Back in the day at medical school we called them 'underlying conditions'. After all; you wouldn't want to start cutting into them, or filling a patient with drugs, unless you knew. Same thing.

 

1) How do vaccines not stop transmission? A healthy person - vaxed or not - has nothing to transmit.

 

2) It is not the un-healthy lifestyle that is responsible for ill-health? The jab cannot help; only make them more un-healthy.

 

 

 

I've read some ill advised B.S. on here but this is QAnon stuff. 

Edited August 27, 2023 by Bkk Brian

[owl sees all]

13 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I guess in Medical School they never go to the part about epidemiology and how mortality rates are determined before you left.

What are you on about?

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

What are you on about?

Didn't you say in another topic your time in medical school was because you were "reading 'Applied Physiology'. But I am a questioner. My placement was cut a tad short."

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5 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

What are you on about?

Well, what do you think epidemiologists get up to during and after a pandemic? You don't think that they parse how people in all sorts of cohorts  fared whether or not they were vaccinated? You think that it wouldn't be of particular interest to examine how those most at risk fared? You really want to run with that?

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[impulse]

58 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

Aha, the Marjorie Tailor Green argument.

 

Thousands of dead people in Georgia voted - well 4 anyway!

Hyperbole is lost on you...

[owl sees all]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Didn't you say in another topic your time in medical school was because you were "reading 'Applied Physiology'. But I am a questioner. My placement was cut a tad short."

Quite correct Brian.

 

I left before my 12  month placement was completed. My personal tutor said it was because I asked too many questions of the learned professors.

[owl sees all]

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Well,what do you think epidemiologists get up to during and after a pandemic? You don't think that they parse how people in all sorts of cohorts fared whether or not they were vaccinated? You think that it wouldn't be of particular interest to examine how those most at risk fared? You really want to run with that?

As long as they continue to get their grant dosh, I don't think they care TBH.

 

I'll run with anything to do with this topic. Fire away.

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3 minutes ago, impulse said:

Hyperbole is lost on you...

So why should anyone believe anything you claim in regards to numbers if you're going to invoke the excuse of hyperbole? What in your comment showed that it wasn't meant to be taken literally? The fact that it echoes what a certain failed candidate claims?

[Bkk Brian]

12 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

Quite correct Brian.

 

I left before my 12  month placement was completed. My personal tutor said it was because I asked too many questions of the learned professors.

As professors I suspect they were being quite diplomatic about you

Edited August 27, 2023 by Bkk Brian