Trump legal team claims trial dates ‘by design’ clash with election campaign

[JonnyF]

8 minutes ago, placeholder said:

We have plenty of evidence of your real position. And it's clearly hard right wing. Your silly and baiting generalizations about liberals is proof enough of that.

Must be tough living in that world of yours, where everyone with a differing opinion is clearly a MAGA hat wearing, right wing extremist ????????????.

[poyai111]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

91 indictments were not handed down by journalists. 

Documented and corroborated. 50 ex CIA officials lied. Indictments inspired by radical Da's to interfere with 2024 election. 

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10 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Must be tough living in that world of yours, where everyone with a differing opinion is clearly a MAGA hat wearing, right wing extremist ????????????.

When someone repeatedly makes empty and baiting generalizations about liberals, I think the suspicion is clearly justified.

[FritsSikkink]

28 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

I could dial it off the chart if I wished to (I don't) but since you share Chomper's blindness to Biden's faults (or more accurately refuse to acknowledge those which you do see), it would be a waste of time.

 

Since you don't have any counter arguments to my real position, you will continue to create a false position for me and proceed to argue vociferously against that ????. A form of madness? Quite possibly. Fun to watch you jumping through hoops though...

This thread is about Trump's trial date and has NOTHING to do with Hillary or Biden's son or anyone else. Stop deflecting and talk about the 91 criminal charges.

Pretending that you are neutral in this is laughable.

[Bkk Brian]

8 minutes ago, poyai111 said:

Documented and corroborated. 50 ex CIA officials lied. Indictments inspired by radical Da's to interfere with 2024 election. 

"Indictments inspired by radical Da's"

 

Indictments handed down by the jury who saw the evidence actually

[LaosLover]

33 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

where everyone with a differing opinion is clearly a MAGA hat wearing, right wing extremist ????????????.

Again, the victim complex knows no bounds.

 

They're like ingenues holding their wrists to their foreheads and swooning -at the sheer, weighty unfairness.....of you know, everything.

 

"Sure, Trump did everything, but what about muh fairness"?.

Edited August 29, 2023 by LaosLover

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, bignok said:

Biden is the worst leader ever from any country. Anyone who can't see that has no credibility as a functioning human being.

Anyone who can't see that has no credibility as a functioning human being.

 

I can't see that no. The majority of all major countries including Europe prefer Biden. Quite an inflammatory remark there Bignok. Are you claiming all those people including me have no credibility as a functioning human being?

Edited August 29, 2023 by Bkk Brian

[pomchop]

28 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

"Indictments inspired by radical Da's"

 

Indictments handed down by the jury who saw the evidence actually

4 separate grand jurys in four different locales some  repub some  dem...and they all have one thing in common:  They reviewed the evidence of probable crimes which evidence was provided almost exclusively by life long republicans who voted for trump and wanted trump to win.  Republicans who testified under oath with death threats from MAGA as to what they saw and heard along with piles of texts and emails and audio and video tapes.  So once again here we go with blame it on the DA...all the DA did was present the evidence to the grand jury and without the testimony by republican after republican after republican there would have been no indictment.

 

So remind me again how it is all a giant dem witch hunt when all the witneeses that provided the most damaging testimony are republican trumpers???

 

[JonnyF]

33 minutes ago, placeholder said:

When someone repeatedly makes empty and baiting generalizations about liberals, I think the suspicion is clearly justified.

By "Liberals" I assume you really mean Left Wing Authoritarians?

 

Because I consider myself extremely liberal on most issues in the classic sense of the word. Of course, if you are referring to Liberals in the more "progressive" sense (i.e. a word that extreme left wing authoritarians have hijacked to label themselves, in an attempt try to ban and regulate everything while still appearing kind/virtuous), then you may have a more noteworthy point.

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23 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

By "Liberals" I assume you really mean Left Wing Authoritarians?

 

Because I consider myself extremely liberal on most issues in the classic sense of the word. Of course, if you are referring to Liberals in the more "progressive" sense (i.e. a word that extreme left wing authoritarians have hijacked to label themselves, in an attempt try to ban and regulate everything while still appearing kind/virtuous), then you may have a more noteworthy point.

You just can't give up on the baiting, can you? Using right wing cant to call those who are liberals, as the word is commonly understood, "left wing authoritarians" certainly doesn't further your claim to be a "neutral" observer.

And you only make it worse by claiming that these supposed left wing authoritarians are engaged "in an attempt try to ban and regulate everything while still appearing kind/virtuous), then you may have a more noteworthy point" only serves to make your claim to be neutral  eve more ridiculous. 

Keep digging that hole.

Edited August 29, 2023 by placeholder

[Bkk Brian]

13 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

By "Liberals" I assume you really mean Left Wing Authoritarians?

What made you assume that? 

 

13 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Because I consider myself extremely liberal on most issues in the classic sense of the word. 

LOL

 

14 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Of course, if you are referring to Liberals in the more "progressive" sense (i.e. a word that extreme left wing authoritarians have hijacked to label themselves, in an attempt try to ban and regulate everything while still appearing kind/virtuous), then you may have a more noteworthy point.

There you go again making assumptions and in addition claiming that they try to ban and regulate everything.

[watthong]

4 hours ago, poyai111 said:

Substitute the names of the protagonists and you come to the realization that truth must prevail and the search for that truth is the responsibility of unbiased journalists 

To understand the nuances of such profound maxim, one needs to decipher MAGA parlance. One primer example: STOP THE STEAL -==>> meaning STOP THE VOTING PROCESS then STEAL THE VOTES.  In everyday normal (read sane) language, we would simply say the thief is sounding the alarm.

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, poyai111 said:

Documented and corroborated. 50 ex CIA officials lied. Indictments inspired by radical Da's to interfere with 2024 election. 

No, they did not lie.  But you just did.

 

""We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by President Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not, and that we do not have evidence of Russian involvement—just that our experience makes us deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case," the letter said."  https://www.newsweek.com/hunter-biden-laptop-jim-jordan-facebook-disinformation-twitter-1767369

[earlinclaifornia]

2 hours ago, pomchop said:

Is there anything or anybody on the planet that trump doesn't blame for all his problems and whine about?

 

Newsflash:

 

  If trump would have immediately returned the classified docs like biden and pence did  rather than lie about it and try to hide docs time and again for 18 months after being asked politely to return them there would never have been a document case.

 

If trump had accepted the election results that were verified over and over via recounts and reviews almost all done by republicans and proved valid he could have gone to mar a largo and there would never have been an attempted coup or a riot at the capitol.

 

If trump had not tried to coerce and meddle in Georgias election after being assured over and over by republican officials there was no fraud he could be playing golf without a worry in the world.

 

The bottom line is that almost all of trumps current legal problems were brought about by trumps own poor choices....but rather than accept it like a man he whines like a 4 year old that didn't get the ice cream he wanted.  Boo hoo.

It Trump just accepted Biden won. His lead now over Biden would be unsurmountable. 

[pomchop]

2 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

It Trump just accepted Biden won. His lead now over Biden would be unsurmountable. 

Who knows but bottom line is Trump was and still is a loser.  But he is a perfect loser.

[Tropposurfer]

On 8/28/2023 at 4:24 PM, wombat said:

with the way all things have been weaponised politically why do you expect any different?

Yeah all this weaponising is sooooo bad huh ... how about that Jim Jordan fella, and Comer, Cruz, Hawley, Boebert, MTG, and lets not forget that uber-pathetic whiney Graham and the oh-so stellar coward self-serving creep McCarthy and their constant treasonous spewing forth.

[Tropposurfer]

On 8/28/2023 at 4:26 PM, poyai111 said:

ASEANnow coverage of all things Trump has become a little tiresome to the point that it could reasonably stated that a partisan approach is evident. Could we have an even handed real journalistic cover on the dramas facing the USA? The president, himself, is heading towards impeachment and the silence is deafening 

I'm unsure of what you are actually advocating for or petitioning other for regarding this most shameful, perhaps unsurpassed shame-bound period in US history.

To be sure the shameful, darkness of mentally ill fascist peoples threat to whatever democracy may exist in the US of A is out-n-shamelessly proud. 

 

None of my posts regarding the treasonous and extremely dangerous Trump could ever be described as silence, obscure, banal, or partisan - other than to be unequivocally clear as the the evil, the severe mental sickness Trump holds and executes so mercilessly and perniciously against his countrymen and the world at large. 

It appears to me, the posts which I have read here thus-far about the Orange Obscenity are most clear in their denial of and undifferentiated ego-mass of his blind pathological paranoid supporters, or condemnation of that traitor by those who have enough developmental maturity and grasp of reality to see him for exactly what he is.  

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4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Must be tough living in that world of yours, where everyone with a differing opinion is clearly a MAGA hat wearing, right wing extremist ????????????.

Not everyone.. I've stated the reasons why I consider you an extreme right winger. And hyperbolic statements like the one you just made only serve to further convince me that I've categorized you correctly

[Chomper Higgot]

6 hours ago, JonnyF said:

You're preaching to the converted. I dislike Trump and believe he acts inappropriately on occasion.

 

I don't share your blindness to the behavior of Biden and his accomplices/family.

Of course you dislike Trump (now) he’s on his way to prison.

 

 

[JonnyF]

15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Of course you dislike Trump (now) he’s on his way to prison.

 

 

I'm not so sure he's on his way to prison. Time will tell, although the justice system is certainly stacked against him.

 

But any check of my posting history shows that I've been critical of both Biden and Trump for a long time. If/when Biden is impeached I will remain consistent in my criticism of him, as I have done with Trump. My love/support for Trump exists in your (and other fanatical left wing poster's) head(s) only.

 

Your blindness to Biden's obvious lies and failings does not make me a fan of Trump.

 

The fact I point out Biden's obvious lies and failings does not make me a fan of Trump.

 

You weak attempts at creating a strawman do not make me a fan of Trump. ????

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Not everyone.. I've stated the reasons why I consider you an extreme right winger. And hyperbolic statements like the one you just made only serve to further convince me that I've categorized you correctly

Your categorization of someone with such moderate and often liberal (in the classic sense of the word) views as myself as an extreme right winger only serves to demonstrate how violently you have veered to the extreme left.????

 

You probably consider Tony Benn to have been a right wing fascist, who was hiding his secret love of Margaret Thatcher behind fake criticism of her ????.

 

Utterly deluded. Amusing though... You've certainly chosen the correct echo chamber to post your extreme leftist views.

[Sticky Rice Balls]

22 hours ago, poyai111 said:

 Be patient my friend 

sorry Im not a maga idiot....truth needs no support......but good luck with your gaslighting

[Chomper Higgot]

10 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

I'm not so sure he's on his way to prison. Time will tell, although the justice system is certainly stacked against him.

 

But any check of my posting history shows that I've been critical of both Biden and Trump for a long time. If/when Biden is impeached I will remain consistent in my criticism of him, as I have done with Trump. My love/support for Trump exists in your (and other fanatical left wing poster's) head(s) only.

 

Your blindness to Biden's obvious lies and failings does not make me a fan of Trump.

 

The fact I point out Biden's obvious lies and failings does not make me a fan of Trump.

 

You weak attempts at creating a strawman do not make me a fan of Trump. ????

1. The Justice system is not stacked against Trump, it’s stacked against people who commit crimes.

 

2. Biden isn’t the topic of discussion, let alone my thoughts on Biden.

 

3. All your off topic Biden nonsense is the Strawman you are looking for.

 

 

[Sticky Rice Balls]

On 8/28/2023 at 2:58 PM, RichardColeman said:

I dunno, Potential bribery. Deliberate destruction of the American borders, allowing the BLM riots to pass without a criminal investigation of the democratic cities allowing them ? Lying to the public about his son, lying to the public about russian dossiers. Failure to indict ANY democrats that said the election was stolen by trump, Is Trump perfect - no, far from it, but he is no worse than Biden who is now openly trying to use the DOJ and FBI to stop his biggest rival. How do we know this is the case ? Because NONE of the cases would fall after the election. Not one case have they looked at it politically and seen the election is coming and the prosecution could wait until after - if they did not fear him getting back in, why the hurry ? He would still be there after the next election.

 

still waiting for your sources and links...need more time or just wanna keep gaslighting????

[Sticky Rice Balls]

17 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

1. The Justice system is not stacked against Trump, it’s stacked against people who commit crimes.

 

2. Biden isn’t the topic of discussion, let alone my thoughts on Biden.

 

3. All your off topic Biden nonsense is the Strawman you are looking for.

 

 

thank you!

[scottiejohn]

59 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Utterly deluded. Amusing though... You've certainly chosen the correct echo chamber to post your extreme leftist views.

I agree that you are Utterly deluded. Amusing though... You've certainly chosen the correct echo chamber to post your extreme leftist irrational and unsubstantiated views and BS comments!.

[johnnybangkok]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

But any check of my posting history shows that I've been critical of both Biden and Trump for a long time. If/when Biden is impeached I will remain consistent in my criticism of him, as I have done with Trump. My love/support for Trump exists in your (and other fanatical left wing poster's) head(s) only.

 

Your blindness to Biden's obvious lies and failings does not make me a fan of Trump.

 

The fact I point out Biden's obvious lies and failings does not make me a fan of Trump.

 

You weak attempts at creating a strawman do not make me a fan of Trump. ????

You keep telling us you're impartial and you've 'been critical of both Biden and Trump' yet I cannot recall a single time I've heard you being critical of Trump. What I have seen is your criticism of the American judicial system, your criticism of this judge and your general condescention for anything YOU deem 'liberal'. So let's have it out for all to see;

1. Do you think the 2020 election was indeed fraudulant and that Trump actually won?

2. Do you think Trump tried to overturn the 2020 election by calling it a fix and winding up his followers and pointing them in the direction of The Capitol?

3. Do you think Trump tried to recruit fake electors in swing states won by Biden, and tried to pressure Pence to delay the certification of the election or reject legitimate electors?

4. Do you think Trump paid off Stormy Daniels? If yes, do you then think he tried to hide the payment as a legitimate business expense?   

5. Do you think he tried to reverse Georgia’s results in the 2020 election by asking for another 12,000 votes?

6. Do you think he illegally kept classified documents, refused to return them when he said he would and then lied to the FBI about the documents?

7. And finally, do you agree that any or all of the above constitute the legal troubles he now faces?

 

Simple yes or no answers will do or more elaborate if you think it's better.    

[Sticky Rice Balls]

On 8/28/2023 at 2:58 PM, RichardColeman said:

I dunno, Potential bribery. Deliberate destruction of the American borders, allowing the BLM riots to pass without a criminal investigation of the democratic cities allowing them ? Lying to the public about his son, lying to the public about russian dossiers. Failure to indict ANY democrats that said the election was stolen by trump, Is Trump perfect - no, far from it, but he is no worse than Biden who is now openly trying to use the DOJ and FBI to stop his biggest rival. How do we know this is the case ? Because NONE of the cases would fall after the election. Not one case have they looked at it politically and seen the election is coming and the prosecution could wait until after - if they did not fear him getting back in, why the hurry ? He would still be there after the next election.

 

still waiting......................................... sources and any links.........................whats the problem????

[ozimoron]

On 8/29/2023 at 9:41 AM, pomchop said:

Is there anything or anybody on the planet that trump doesn't blame for all his problems and whine about?

 

Newsflash:

 

  If trump would have immediately returned the classified docs like biden and pence did  rather than lie about it and try to hide docs time and again for 18 months after being asked politely to return them there would never have been a document case.

 

If trump had accepted the election results that were verified over and over via recounts and reviews almost all done by republicans and proved valid he could have gone to mar a largo and there would never have been an attempted coup or a riot at the capitol.

 

If trump had not tried to coerce and meddle in Georgias election after being assured over and over by republican officials there was no fraud he could be playing golf without a worry in the world.

 

The bottom line is that almost all of trumps current legal problems were brought about by trumps own poor choices....but rather than accept it like a man he whines like a 4 year old that didn't get the ice cream he wanted.  Boo hoo.

Even just losing the election and the subsequent failure of the red tide was a result of his poor choices.

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8 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Even just losing the election and the subsequent failure of the red tide was a result of his poor choices.

I like 'red tide" much better than "red wave".