Where I live Ive noticed more locals are not obsessed with wearing the facial mask anymore. But some still are.

[advancebooking]

  On 8/29/2023 at 1:44 PM, eisfeld said:

On the other hand I've read many topics and posts of people who obsess about such a boring matter.

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I dont think so. This is the first post about this topic in yrs. Its original thinking. 

[Liverpool Lou]

  On 8/29/2023 at 1:04 PM, advancebooking said:

  On 8/29/2023 at 10:50 AM, Liverpool Lou said:

Why does he need to provide evidence of this fact?

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duh. Bc I dont believe him.

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Duh....you described what he said as a fact.  Why does he have to provide evidence of something you've already accepted as fact?   Whether you believe a fact or not is neither here nor there.

[Liverpool Lou]

  On 8/29/2023 at 10:47 AM, transam said:

My immigration office, the last time I was there....

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When was that?

[transam]

  On 8/30/2023 at 3:15 AM, Liverpool Lou said:

When was that?

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Now let me think.......... March.

My chum was there yesterday, folk have to wait outside, inside, wearing a mask......????

[Ralf001]

Rarely see any Thai's wearing masks these days.... few mouth breather farangs though.

[SiSePuede419]

 

Today is Day #6, still testing positive.

 

You don't know what you're talking about. ????

 

[TravelerEastWest]

  On 8/29/2023 at 9:44 PM, alex8912 said:

It's means people are insane if more  than 5% of people are wearing masks anywhere now. 
period. 

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Much more than 5% are in high risk group over 60 with diabetes etc. Just curious are you saying those in a  high risk group are crazy for protecting themselves?

[ozimoron]

  On 8/30/2023 at 5:10 AM, TravelerEastWest said:

Much more than 5% are in high risk group over 60 with diabetes etc. Just curious are you saying those in a  high risk group are crazy for protecting themselves?

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All these anti-mask and anti-vax cultists are crazy. Crazy is too soft a word actually.

[ozimoron]

  On 8/30/2023 at 4:07 AM, Ralf001 said:

Rarely see any Thai's wearing masks these days.... few mouth breather farangs though.

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Complete rubbish. Thais frequently still wear masks. Those who willfully put others at risk are the mouth breathers.

[Freddy42OZ]

People wore masks for many years *before* covid came along. 

Who cares if someone wants to wear a mask now.

 

[richard_smith237]

  On 8/29/2023 at 7:09 AM, BritManToo said:

Not weird, Thais need to be told what to do by their bigwigs.

Until someone tells them different they'll obey the last order.

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Unless it's about road safety, wearing seatbelts and helmets.....

[richard_smith237]

  On 8/30/2023 at 5:15 AM, Freddy42OZ said:

People wore masks for many years *before* covid came along. 

Who cares if someone wants to wear a mask now.

 

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Someone of a dumbed down over simplification... 

 

Before Covid - mask wearing in Thailand was very limited, perhaps about 1 in 20 motorcycle riders and perhaps about 1 in 50 people walking down the street and next to no-one in shopping malls. 

 

Now, post covid, mask wearing is significantly greater - thus  IF your implication is that pre-covid mask wearing levels and post covid mask wearing levels is similar, you are quite incorrect. 

 

 

As for,  "who cares ???"

A lot of people do... There is an element of social pressure when it comes to mask wearing. 

If most around are wearing a mask, not through any understanding of the reasons but simply because everyone else is wearing a mask, then there is an element of 'following other people like sheep'... and often people want to think critically about their actions and behavior.

 

Thus - people care because they don't want to be the one that others look poorly upon for not socially conforming by wearing a mask, yet at the same time the realise that wearing a mask isn't quite necessary any more.

 

 

 

 

[ozimoron]

  On 8/30/2023 at 5:21 AM, richard_smith237 said:

 

Someone of a dumbed down over simplification... 

 

Before Covid - mask wearing in Thailand was very limited, perhaps about 1 in 20 motorcycle riders and perhaps about 1 in 50 people walking down the street and next to no-one in shopping malls. 

 

Now, post covid, mask wearing is significantly greater - thus  IF your implication is that pre-covid mask wearing levels and post covid mask wearing levels is similar, you are quite incorrect. 

 

 

As for,  "who cares ???"

A lot of people do... There is an element of social pressure when it comes to mask wearing. 

If most around are wearing a mask, not through any understanding of the reasons but simply because everyone else is wearing a mask, then there is an element of 'following other people like sheep'... and often people want to think critically about their actions and behavior.

 

Thus - people care because they don't want to be the one that others look poorly upon for not socially conforming by wearing a mask, yet at the same time the realise that wearing a mask isn't quite necessary any more.

 

 

 

 

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So what? I'm sick of people accusing others of being mouth breathers for wearing masks.  Nothing could be less intelligent.

[richard_smith237]

  On 8/30/2023 at 5:14 AM, ozimoron said:

Complete rubbish. Thais frequently still wear masks. Those who willfully put others at risk are the mouth breathers.

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Two extremes of the spectrum...    intelligent balance is needed here. 

 

This hyperbolic exaggeration that people who don't wear masks are wilfully putting others at risk' is utterly exaggerated and flawed, they are simply getting on with their lives as they did before Covid. 

 

 

There is no need to wear a mask in the general pubic unless you are unwell or want some protection from pollution. 

 

 

 

[ozimoron]

  On 8/30/2023 at 5:25 AM, richard_smith237 said:

Two extremes of the spectrum...    intelligent balance is needed here. 

 

This hyperbolic exaggeration that people who don't wear masks are wilfully putting others at risk' is utterly exaggerated and flawed, they are simply getting on with their lives as they did before Covid. 

 

 

There is no need to wear a mask in the general pubic unless you are unwell or want some protection from pollution. 

 

 

 

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It isn't flawed. Wearing a mask is a conscious decision, therefore willful. Stop suggesting that people shouldn't wear m,asks for covid. That's mouth breather stuff and utterly misinformed..

[richard_smith237]

  On 8/30/2023 at 5:24 AM, ozimoron said:

So what? I'm sick of people accusing others of being mouth breathers for wearing masks.  Nothing could be less intelligent.

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In your haste to argue I'm not sure you read through my comments carefully enough. 

I agree with you at some level....  the people arguing that we should all still be wearing masks have failed to see the rest of the world move on. 

 

These same people try and use 'mouth-breathers'  or some such phrases in the same manner others used 'covidiots' etc... they think they are being clever adding such emphasis to their bias. 

 

 

I have hardly seen anyone wearing a mask outside of Thailand for well over a year. 

This includes major airports.

 

At the same time, I think its poor form not to wear a mask in a hospital.

 

As always what occurs in the middle ground is simple balance, yet the extremes have the loudest voice and flawed argument of the extremes of a 'black & white' perspective. 

 

 

[anrcaccount]

  On 8/30/2023 at 5:31 AM, richard_smith237 said:

 

 

 

I have hardly seen anyone wearing a mask outside of Thailand for well over a year. 

This includes major airports.

 

 

 

 

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I don't think many of those posting here or many who live here, actually realise that Thailand is now the last country in the world where mask wearing is still commonplace in public. 

 

Even Japan and China have rapidly ditched them over the past few months. 

 

As you stated very well, unless you suspect you actually have Covid, or want some protection form pollution, there is no rational reason to wear a mask. 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

  On 8/30/2023 at 5:26 AM, ozimoron said:

It isn't flawed. Wearing a mask is a conscious decision, therefore willful. Stop suggesting that people shouldn't wear m,asks for covid. That's mouth breather stuff and utterly misinformed..

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The rest of the world has moved on with regards to mask wearing. Its widely accepted that from a covid perspective its not longer necessary. 

 

IF your argument is that we should all wear masks because of the risks of transmission of all respiratory viruses, then you'd make more sense.  Then that should also have been the argument before Covid as well. 

 

Of course, its utterly impractical for 100% of society to wear masks 100% of the time, which is what I think some pro-mask wearers want to see - these opinions become excessive. Perhaps we should still be isolating too.  Such idealists are unable to identify a health reality. 

 

 

 

 

Of the countries I have visited in the past 18 months only Thailand is so fixated on mask wearing.

Mostly because they are conforming with each other, not because of any greater understanding of why we should be mask wearing. 

Worse are the foreigners who have not left Thailand in the past few years who've become indoctrinated and are attempting to justify the same silly ideals with idiotic and ridiculously extreme arguments such as 'wilfully putting others at risk".

 

Unless visiting a hospital, mask wearing is over - at least until another pandemic hits

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ozimoron]

  On 8/30/2023 at 5:31 AM, richard_smith237 said:

In your haste to argue I'm not sure you read through my comments carefully enough. 

I agree with you at some level....  the people arguing that we should all still be wearing masks have failed to see the rest of the world move on. 

 

These same people try and use 'mouth-breathers'  or some such phrases in the same manner others used 'covidiots' etc... they think they are being clever adding such emphasis to their bias. 

 

 

I have hardly seen anyone wearing a mask outside of Thailand for well over a year. 

This includes major airports.

 

At the same time, I think its poor form not to wear a mask in a hospital.

 

As always what occurs in the middle ground is simple balance, yet the extremes have the loudest voice and flawed argument of the extremes of a 'black & white' perspective. 

 

 

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Why don't you dredge up some truth for a change? The rest of the world sees covid rising again and some countries are considering more lock downs.

[fredwiggy]

  On 8/30/2023 at 5:26 AM, ozimoron said:

It isn't flawed. Wearing a mask is a conscious decision, therefore willful. Stop suggesting that people shouldn't wear m,asks for covid. That's mouth breather stuff and utterly misinformed..

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True. I'm sure many lives have been saved from people not spreading what they were infected with by wearing some kind of mask. Yes,they won't stop all molecules from Covid, but the amount. They don't know how much of Covid is needed to start an infection, or the severity of it. Taking guesses with others health has killed many people. The problem here isn't that many wore or still wear masks. It's what they come into contact with when they are home. Kids go to school and most don't wear masks anymore. One child gets close to many, and the rest is history. People wear masks walking down the street, and then share sticky rice with friends and neighbors, guaranteeing a spread of whatever they're carrying. This is a major reason Covid has spread here, along with communal water cups. If someone has Covid and coughs, that disease goes outwards many feet. If they're wearing a mask, most of it won't travel as far. Some have said that Thais have been wearing masks long before Covid came, for many reasons. Why worry who does what here anyway? Who knows how many lives have been saved using a mask?

[ozimoron]

  On 8/30/2023 at 5:43 AM, fredwiggy said:

True. I'm sure many lives have been saved from people not spreading what they were infected with by wearing some kind of mask. Yes,they won't stop all molecules from Covid, but the amount. They don't know how much of Covid is needed to start an infection, or the severity of it. Taking guesses with others health has killed many people. The problem here isn't that many wore or still wear masks. It's what they come into contact with when they are home. Kids go to school and most don't wear masks anymore. One child gets close to many, and the rest is history. People wear masks walking down the street, and then share sticky rice with friends and neighbors, guaranteeing a spread of whatever they're carrying. This is a major reason Covid has spread here, along with communal water cups. If someone has Covid and coughs, that disease goes outwards many feet. If they're wearing a mask, most of it won't travel as far. Some have said that Thais have been wearing masks long before Covid came, for many reasons. Why worry who does what here anyway? Who knows how many lives have been saved using a mask?

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We do know that's it's in the millions

 

 

[ozimoron]

COVID Is on the Rise Again—What You Need to Know

 

https://www.bu.edu/articles/2023/covid-is-on-the-rise-again-what-you-need-to-know/

[richard_smith237]

  On 8/30/2023 at 5:39 AM, anrcaccount said:

I don't think many of those posting here or many who live here, actually realise that Thailand is now the last country in the world where mask wearing is still commonplace in public. 

 

Even Japan and China have rapidly ditched them over the past few months. 

 

As you stated very well, unless you suspect you actually have Covid, or want some protection form pollution, there is no rational reason to wear a mask. 

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Agreed.... 

 

I am actually very pro-Mask wearing, even before Covid..... but only under circumstances where its useful and not simply a byproduct of conformity or hysteria. 

 

I believe that if someone has any symptoms of a cold - then wear a mask.

I believe that if someone in your own household has any symptoms of a cold - then wear a mask.

I believe that we should wear masks when entering a hospital.

 

Yet, the validity of the reasons for every person wearing a mask in any public setting have long since passed. 

 

 

 

[Zapitapi]

  On 8/29/2023 at 6:57 AM, Dmaxdan said:

Why does it bother you what others do?

 

Personally I will still wear a mask where it is required and sometimes out of respect for those I'm interacting with.

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everyone should wear one:)) not ..watch mask production:

https://twitter.com/CartlandDavid/status/1696575578512519304?s=20

[richard_smith237]

  On 8/30/2023 at 5:42 AM, ozimoron said:

Why don't you dredge up some truth for a change? The rest of the world sees covid rising again and some countries are considering more lock downs.

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Where has locked down again ???  name one country that has locked down or instigated compulsory mask wearing this year.

 

 

The media is always reporting the 'next lock down' because they love the frenzy...  but where is there a genuine official report of another imminent or pending lock-down ?

 

 

 

 

 

[fredwiggy]

  On 8/30/2023 at 5:50 AM, richard_smith237 said:

 

Where has locked down again ???  name one country that has locked down or instigated compulsory mask wearing this year.

 

 

The media is always reporting the 'next lock down' because they love the frenzy...  but where is there a genuine official report of another imminent or pending lock-down ?

 

 

 

 

 

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None, because losing money is on most people's minds, including the ones who profit from people working. Politicians are scared to death to do anything that might affect their ratings, so let the people work.

[connda]

  On 8/29/2023 at 7:01 AM, Skallywag said:

I am a foreigner and wear a new paper mask almost every day here in Pattaya.  I find it helps in my condo elevator when Indians or Russians are in it to cover up their massive perfume smells. 

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What a way to start a post about masking ----> throw highly charged jingoistic (overtly racist) shade at Indians and Russians by insinuating that they all have hygiene problems and body odor.

Your message the way I interpret it:
???? "I wear a mask because other ethnicities whom I personally dislike all stink and smell bad, except for my own superior ethnicity, all of whom are clean and pure as the wind driven snow."

I'd say your perception of your personal ethnic superiority is a problem that has nothing to do with masks.  Just a suggestion:  Try jettisoning the racism and becoming part of the solution.  You're definitely an outliers as most people I know who obsessively wear masks are scare out of their wits by all of the Covid fear-mongering broadcasted day and night by main-stream media and their government agencies since March 2020.  They don't wear them because they are ethnically superior and can't stand the stench of other ethnicities they despise.  Really, really pathetic. 

"I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of interposition and nullification; one day right there in Alabama, little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers."
-- Dr Martin Luther King

...and Indians, and Russians, and Pakistanis, and Africans, and Middle Easterns, and South Americans, and Europeans - hand in hand - accepting each other together as one - masked or otherwise.

[CygnusX1]

I’ve spent the last 3 months travelling in Italy, Croatia and am now in Turkey (sorry, Türkiye). Must have seen thousands of faces in crowded beach resorts and packed transport. Total of half a dozen masks in Italy. Absolutely zero in Croatia and zero so far in Türkiye. Thailand is really weird on this.

[patman30]

  On 8/29/2023 at 6:50 AM, advancebooking said:

Personally, I haven't worn a mask for yonks. Only when I walk into a private hospital when someone asks me to wear one will I do so. 

 

I think its ridiculous to be wearing one day in day out. The threat of the chinese virus is over.  I recently paid a sign guy to erect a vinal sign on our building. Towards the end of the job he saw me walking towards him and he put on his mask. I hung around until it was finished. He had a long neck of beer with him. Took a drink and put his mask back on. I lost respect for him. Thought he was an idiot. Is he that paranoid to catch a virus (from me)

 

We have a busy small business. Ive noticed half the customers that walk in dont wear them which is good. I sit at reception not wearing one of course. 

 

I think its quite weird that many thais are still wearing them when majority of population in western countries are clearly not. 

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it was weird from the very start.

[connda]

  On 8/30/2023 at 6:05 AM, CygnusX1 said:

I’ve spent the last 3 months travelling in Italy, Croatia and am now in Turkey (sorry, Türkiye). Must have seen thousands of faces in crowded beach resorts and packed transport. Total of half a dozen masks in Italy. Absolutely zero in Croatia and zero so far in Türkiye. Thailand is really weird on this.

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I think it tends to be a rather Asian phenomenon. I know in Japan many people would mask-up for half the year  pre-Covid.  Post-Covid and it's all year.
If you check out street-level web cams in places like Japan and China, there is still a fairly large percentage of people wearing masks as they do in Thailand.

Example: Tokyo live
https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam/japan/kanto/tokyo/shinjuku-street.html