Nick Carter icp Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said: Who rules Gaza? It’s not Fatah and Abbas. Why is that? Hamas control Gaza , Hamas won the election and were voted in by the Palestinian population , that is why they control Gaza 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Those so called "atrocities" are rather insignificant compared to real atrocities taking place in other parts of the World . Other parts of the world where there is real genocide happening like in Myanmar or real atrocities like in Yemen What’s your point? Let’s ignore rape because murder is occurring? The decent thing to do is denounce crimes against humanity, not minimise and deflect away from them. Palestinian terrorism needs to stop regardless of what is occurring in Myanmar or Yemen - why can’t you say the same about Israel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 1 minute ago, MrMojoRisin said: What’s your point? Let’s ignore rape because murder is occurring? The decent thing to do is denounce crimes against humanity, not minimise and deflect away from them. Palestinian terrorism needs to stop regardless of what is occurring in Myanmar or Yemen - why can’t you say the same about Israel? Everyone in the whole World should all start being nice to each other and stop killing and attacking each other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Hamas control Gaza , Hamas won the election and were voted in by the Palestinian population , that is why they control Gaza Correct. Hamas are hardliners compared to Fatah. Abbas has to avoid being seen as weak lest he also lose control of the West Bank. Thus, he makes the nonsense comments this article is about. Similarly, China’s Wolf Warrior diplomacy is about domestic politics more than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Everyone in the whole World should all start being nice to each other and stop killing and attacking each other Yep. What should Israel stop doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said: Yep. What should Israel stop doing? Why should I focus on Israel ? The whole World needs to stop doing it , not just Israel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Just now, Nick Carter icp said: Why should I focus on Israel ? The whole World needs to stop doing it , not just Israel Why so afraid of talking about Israel’s wrongdoings? https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said: Why so afraid of talking about Israel’s wrongdoings? https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/ Why just focus on Israel ? Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza are NOT Israeli citizens , so of course they will not be treated like Israeli citizens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said: Why so afraid of talking about Israel’s wrongdoings? https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/ This topic is not about Israel's wrongdoings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Just now, Nick Carter icp said: Why just focus on Israel ? Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza are NOT Israeli citizens , so of course they will not be treated like Israeli citizens This thread is not about Myanmar or Lebanon. What wrongdoings should Israel stop doing? https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/7/3/israeli-attack-on-jenin-a-new-war-crime-palestinians-say You’re continued avoidance of the question speaks volumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jingthing said: This topic is not about Israel's wrongdoings. What wrongdoings are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Australia Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 The irony lies in the fact that Abbas himself is perceived by the majority of Palestinians as a traitor and an Israeli puppet. He is unelected and widely despised by his own people. The free world must remain resolute in opposing Israel's daily atrocities, which include the killing of journalists, the shooting of children who throw stones at them, targeted assassinations, collective punishment, economic blockades, and the continuous theft of land to build illegal settlements. Why does the world seem to tolerate what is seen as the last occupation on Earth and the last apartheid state? The old narrative of a 'peaceful state surrounded by aggressive neighbors' is increasingly questioned, especially given that Israel is the sole nuclear power in the region and possesses overwhelming military superiority. Resisting occupation is not only a universal right but also a moral obligation. Is it not inconsistent to turn a blind eye to the situation in Palestine while simultaneously actively opposing Russia's actions in Ukraine? Time to end 70 years of occupation and daily humiliation of the Palestinian people. The two-state solution remains the most viable option, but it appears increasingly distant with the presence of a right-wing, pro-settlement government in Israel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said: This thread is not about Myanmar or Lebanon. What wrongdoings should Israel stop doing? https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/7/3/israeli-attack-on-jenin-a-new-war-crime-palestinians-say You’re continued avoidance of the question speaks volumes. This thread isn't about any of Israel wrong doings either . Its your focus on Israel's wrong doings that is the thing that speaks volumes 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Danny Australia said: , the shooting of children who throw stones at them, targeted These stone throwing children ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said: What wrongdoings are you talking about? But 15 minutes earlier. 22 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said: Why so afraid of talking about Israel’s wrongdoings? if anyone is in any doubt that MrMojoRisin is trolling. Here he is asking others to explain ‘Israeli wrongdoings’ when it was he himself who introduced the off topic ‘Israeli wrongdoings’ into the conversation. Stop feeding the troll. Edited September 9, 2023 by Chomper Higgot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: This thread isn't about any of Israel wrong doings either . Its your focus on Israel's wrong doings that is the thing that speaks volumes LOL 1. Avoid the question 2. Infer antisemitism ???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 1 minute ago, MrMojoRisin said: LOL 1. Avoid the question 2. Infer antisemitism ???????????? So answer this question . Why are you focusing on any of Israel's wrong doings ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: So answer this question . Why are you focusing on any of Israel's wrong doings ? Because he introduced the off topic ‘Israeli wrongdoings’ into the discussion. Don’t feed the troll by engaging in his off topic trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: But 15 minutes earlier. if anyone is in any doubt that MrMojoRisin is trolling. Here he is asking others to explain ‘Israeli wrongdoings’ when it was he himself who introduced the off topic ‘Israeli wrongdoings’ into the conversation. Stop feeding the troll. Hey buddy, still got those comprehension issues eh? I can list pages of Israeli crimes, in fact, any 5 year old could do it - but why oh why can’t the pro Israeli numpties in this thread bring themselves to mention a single Israeli wrongdoing? Hmmm? “Stop feeding the troll” is just another pathetic attempt to avoid answering the question. Would Abbas be making such comments if Israelis weren’t stealing Palestinian land…, probably not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Just now, MrMojoRisin said: Hey buddy, still got those comprehension issues eh? I can list pages of Israeli crimes, in fact, any 5 year old could do it - but why oh why can’t the pro Israeli numpties in this thread bring themselves to mention a single Israeli wrongdoing? Hmmm? “Stop feeding the troll” is just another pathetic attempt to avoid answering the question. Would Abbas be making such comments if Israelis weren’t stealing Palestinian land…, probably not. Abbas has a long history of antisemitism and misrepresenting the history of the Holocaust, it’s what he does. You can list as many pages of ‘Israeli crimes as you like’, they are not the topic of discussion. Your failure to understand that simple fact reveals your allegations of ‘comprehension issues’ to be pure projection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Isn't this Abbas chappie the fellow who is currently in the 19th year of his 4 year elected term as President? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: So answer this question . Why are you focusing on any of Israel's wrong doings ? Because you and your pals continually posted downplaying Israel’s brutality towards the Palestinians. There is no doubt Abbas made these untrue comments about Jews because of the extreme animosity that he has developed towards Israel due to the suffering of his people under occupation. Abbas is wrong to make such comments. Israel is wrong to brutalise the Palestinians Why is it so hard for you guys to call out unacceptable behaviour when you see it? Edited September 9, 2023 by MrMojoRisin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 1 minute ago, MrMojoRisin said: Because you and your pals continually posted downplaying Israel’s brutality towards the Palestinians. There is no doubt Abbas made these untrue comments about Jews because of the extreme animosity that he has developed towards Israel due suffering of his people under occupation. Abbas is wrong to make such comments. Israel is wrong to brutalise the Palestinians Why is it so hard for you guys to call out unacceptable behaviour when you see it? Because the thread is about Abbas. And we don’t need you trolling excuses for his deliberately offensive and inflammatory antisemitic remarks. Deal with the topic of discussion, stop running cover for Abbas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liddelljohn Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 As a Jew who lost family in the holocaust I find Abbas's comments disgusting .... However I am also disgusted by the way Israel treats the ordinary palestinian people it is inhuman and similar to what the Nazis's did and the Apartheid regime in South Africa ... unfortunately extremists , both religious and political and fascists on both sides are using the people as pawns .... The majority of israelis are disenfranchised by a few fanatics who use the political clout of a multi party system that is at the mercy of propotional representation that leads to minority governments controlled by minor religious and extremists parties , led by a convicted crook Netenyahu who is only after preserving his own stinking skin. the normal moderate people have no say. On palestinian side the Religious zealots and also political strongmen control the population through fear and control ,,they on the backs of their own people like many arab rulers so majority moderate people are crushed by both sides Israel and their own so called leaders I fear the worst as compromise does not benefit vested interests on both side 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Abbas has a long history of antisemitism and misrepresenting the history of the Holocaust, it’s what he does. You can list as many pages of ‘Israeli crimes as you like’, they are not the topic of discussion. Your failure to understand that simple fact reveals your allegations of ‘comprehension issues’ to be pure projection. Breaking news - a Palestinian is antisemitic How rare and unheard of. Does Israel have a history of oppressing Palestinians and stealing their land? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Just now, MrMojoRisin said: Because you and your pals continually posted downplaying Israel’s brutality towards the Palestinians. There is no doubt Abbas made these untrue comments about Jews because of the extreme animosity that he has developed towards Israel due suffering of his people under occupation. Abbas is wrong to make such comments. Israel is wrong to brutalise the Palestinians Why is it so hard for you guys to call out unacceptable behaviour when you see it? I am one person, one poster and I am not part of any group of people and I don't have any "pals" here . Israel is in the Middle East , there is brutality and violence going on all over the Middle East . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, liddelljohn said: As a Jew who lost family in the holocaust I find Abbas's comments disgusting .... However I am also disgusted by the way Israel treats the ordinary palestinian people it is inhuman and similar to what the Nazis's did and the Apartheid regime in South Africa ... unfortunately extremists , both religious and political and fascists on both sides are using the people as pawns .... The majority of israelis are disenfranchised by a few fanatics who use the political clout of a multi party system that is at the mercy of propotional representation that leads to minority governments controlled by minor religious and extremists parties , led by a convicted crook Netenyahu who is only after preserving his own stinking skin. the normal moderate people have no say. On palestinian side the Religious zealots and also political strongmen control the population through fear and control ,,they on the backs of their own people like many arab rulers so majority moderate people are crushed by both sides Israel and their own so called leaders I fear the worst as compromise does not benefit vested interests on both side Do you agree that Abass’ comments provide political capital for the extremists in Israel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said: Breaking news - a Palestinian is antisemitic How rare and unheard of. Does Israel have a history of oppressing Palestinians and stealing their land? Israel is not the subject of the discussion. Refer to the top of the thread. Stop trolling cover for Abass’ disgusting remarks. “Outrage over Abbas's antisemitic speech on Jews and Holocaust” Edited September 9, 2023 by Chomper Higgot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Because the thread is about Abbas. And we don’t need you trolling excuses for his deliberately offensive and inflammatory antisemitic remarks. Deal with the topic of discussion, stop running cover for Abbas. I can’t possibly imagine a single tenuous link between Abbas and Israel. ???????????? Linking Abbas and Israel is clearly about as silly as mentioning Biden whilst discussing Trump. It is hilarious how ridiculous you guys are. Ad hominem attack, trolling, ad hominem attack, trolling…, give it up mate, just take the L. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 42 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said: What wrongdoings are you talking about? Bait ignored. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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