US and Vietnam get a friendship upgrade

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President Joe Biden has denied that the US is attempting to stem China's international influence, after signing a new strategic partnership with Vietnam.

More than 50 years since the last American soldier left Vietnam, Mr Biden travelled to Hanoi to sign the agreement that will bring the former foes closer than ever before.

The Comprehensive Strategic Partnership with Vietnam is a major relationship upgrade for the US. It is the culmination of a relentless push by Washington over the last two years to strengthen ties with Vietnam, which it sees as key to counter China's influence in Asia.

It is also no small feat. The partnership with Washington is the highest level of diplomatic ties extended by Vietnam, one of China's oldest and staunchest friends.

Mr Biden told reporters in Hanoi that American actions were not about containing or isolating China, but about maintaining stability in accordance with international rules.

"I want to see China to succeed economically, but I want to see them succeed by the rules," he said.

 

Signs of improved ties had already irked Beijing, which called them more evidence of America's "cold-war mentality".

But Hanoi has thought this through, says Le Hong Hien from Singapore's ISEAS-Yusof Ishak Institute, adding that the agreement with the US is "symbolic rather than [one of] substance".

The Vietnamese dream

The title may be symbolic but closer ties could mean better business deals, and less reliance on China.

Vietnam has a young and highly educated workforce. It has also fostered a spirit of entrepreneurship which makes it highly attractive to US investors - especially those who are looking to move their manufacturing bases out of China.

Big names including Dell, Google, Microsoft and Apple have all shifted parts of their supply chains to Vietnam in recent years. The US also considers it a promising market for weapons and military equipment as Hanoi tries to wean off Moscow.

Washington is also keen to help Vietnam become an integral part of the world's semiconductor supply chain and develop its electronics sector - areas which have become contentious as the US tries to restrict China's access to advanced tech.

 

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[Tug]

That’s a good positive thing for both countries in my humble opinion I sincerely hope it grows stronger every year

[heybruce]

Vietnam is using the US to help it resist China's pressure, the US is using Vietnam to contain China's use of brute force to expand its influence, and both sides know this and accept it.

 

This is an example of how diplomacy works when responsible adults are in the White House.  It's also an  example of the kind of diplomacy that Trump couldn't pull off even if he understood it.

[Trippy]

That was a real stumbling bumbling speech he gave in Vietnam

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Trippy said:

That was a real stumbling bumbling speech he gave in Vietnam

 

 

 

Nonsense. It was an off-the-cuff talk that was extremely nuanced. 

[Chomper Higgot]

11 minutes ago, Trippy said:

That was a real stumbling bumbling speech he gave in Vietnam

 

 

 

He got the deal done.

[Hanaguma]

Good lord almighty. Did anyone see the so-called "press conference" that Joe had after the meeting? Truly awful and sadly reinforced the fear that Joe is long past his prime. He literally said that his staff provided him a list of 5 reporters to call on , nobody else allowed to ask questions. Then his staff actually cut him off in mid answer and hustled him off the stage before, God forbid, anyone other than the chosen few had the chance to ask him anything.

 

 

[heybruce]

3 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Good lord almighty. Did anyone see the so-called "press conference" that Joe had after the meeting? Truly awful and sadly reinforced the fear that Joe is long past his prime. He literally said that his staff provided him a list of 5 reporters to call on , nobody else allowed to ask questions. Then his staff actually cut him off in mid answer and hustled him off the stage before, God forbid, anyone other than the chosen few had the chance to ask him anything.

 

 

Right, ignore the topic and go straight to the "Biden is a bad public speaker" diversion.

 

 

[Skipalongcassidy]

5 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Right, ignore the topic and go straight to the "Biden is a bad public speaker" diversion.

 

 

You can stop making excuses for Joe... the MSM has it covered... 55555

[Nick Carter icp]

15 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Right, ignore the topic and go straight to the "Biden is a bad public speaker" diversion.

 

 

Things are a bit more serious that just being a bad public speaker . 

   Poor Joe looked like is was in outer space and he didn't seem with it at all 

[Danderman123]

Vietnam indeed needs help against China.

 

But I see no sign that Vietnam wants to separate from Russia.

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

You can stop making excuses for Joe... the MSM has it covered... 55555

 

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Things are a bit more serious that just being a bad public speaker . 

   Poor Joe looked like is was in outer space and he didn't seem with it at all 

Two more who judge by appearances instead of accomplishments.

 

It's funny, because I believe they also thought Trump's rambling, all-about-me rants were, um, I don't know....entertaining?

[Hanaguma]

58 minutes ago, heybruce said:

 

Two more who judge by appearances instead of accomplishments.

 

It's funny, because I believe they also thought Trump's rambling, all-about-me rants were, um, I don't know....entertaining?

Yes, we know . This is your second  "b-b-but Trump.." comment already in a rather short discussion.

 

If you could show us any peace accords or treaties that Biden has brokered,  that would very great. 

[stevenl]

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Things are a bit more serious that just being a bad public speaker . 

   Poor Joe looked like is was in outer space and he didn't seem with it at all 

Did he get the deal done?

[heybruce]

39 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Yes, we know . This is your second  "b-b-but Trump.." comment already in a rather short discussion.

 

If you could show us any peace accords or treaties that Biden has brokered,  that would very great. 

Check out the topic; it's one of many agreements (US access to bases in the Philippines, getting allied countries to deny China dual-use technology, convincing South Korea it doesn't need nuclear weapons) that have made the world safer and constrained China.

 

All Trump did was unleash Iran to develop nuclear weapons and give Saudi Arabia access to advanced military technology for the appearance of progress in the Middle East.  Funny thing, the Middle East doesn't appear any safer.

 

Pointing out that Biden is an improvement over his predecessor is much more on-topic than complaining that Biden isn't a polished entertainer on-camera.

[Tug]

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

Yes, we know . This is your second  "b-b-but Trump.." comment already in a rather short discussion.

 

If you could show us any peace accords or treaties that Biden has brokered,  that would very great. 

Well I guess nato doesn’t count nor standing with Ukraine in her effort to avoid extermination by that criminal thug Putin as far as your (safe spot but but trump)he does indeed loom large being the Republican front runner and is a good example of cognitive speaking in comparison to president Biden in my humble opinion 

[Nick Carter icp]

4 hours ago, stevenl said:

Did he get the deal done?

I don't think that it was a "deal" , just an agreement and as stated  in the report, just a symbolic agreement without much substance and Joe went there just to sign the agreement, rather than to participate in any dialogue , but yeah, seems like he did manage to sign his  name 

[heybruce]

44 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I don't think that it was a "deal" , just an agreement and as stated  in the report, just a symbolic agreement without much substance and Joe went there just to sign the agreement, rather than to participate in any dialogue , but yeah, seems like he did manage to sign his  name 

From the full article:

 

""It reflects the leading role that Vietnam will play in our growing network of partnerships in the Indo-Pacific as we look to the future," Jake Sullivan, the White House national security adviser, said at a briefing before Mr Biden's visit."

 

"That "network of partnerships" across Asia has certainly grown in the last few months. Washington has negotiated the use of four new military bases in the Philippines and remarkably, it managed to broker a trilateral agreement with rival east Asian allies, Japan and South Korea."

 

This is the sort of agreement that responsible Presidents who know what they are doing get done.  President Biden might not be a polished entertainer, but he gets the job done.

 

 

Edited September 12, 2023 by heybruce

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17 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Good lord almighty. Did anyone see the so-called "press conference" that Joe had after the meeting? Truly awful and sadly reinforced the fear that Joe is long past his prime. He literally said that his staff provided him a list of 5 reporters to call on , nobody else allowed to ask questions. Then his staff actually cut him off in mid answer and hustled him off the stage before, God forbid, anyone other than the chosen few had the chance to ask him anything.

 

 

Good God! I saw . It. And what I saw showed Biden making  off-he-cuff nuanceda t analysis of the predicament that Xi currently finds himself in. Not in the least consistent with claims offered by such as yourself of mental incapacity.

[Skipalongcassidy]

On 9/12/2023 at 6:29 AM, heybruce said:

 

Two more who judge by appearances instead of accomplishments.

 

This just in... another of Joe's accomplishments... 

American households' income fell last year as their cost of living jumped higher than it has in over four decades amid soaring inflation and marking the third straight annual decline since the COVID-19 pandemic hit in 2020, according to data from the U.S. Census Bureau.

[2baht]

On 9/12/2023 at 4:06 AM, Nick Carter icp said:

Things are a bit more serious that just being a bad public speaker . 

   Poor Joe looked like is was in outer space and he didn't seem with it at all 

Is that a reflection on the majority of voting Americans who put him there? ????

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

This just in... another of Joe's accomplishments... 

American households' income fell last year as their cost of living jumped higher than it has in over four decades amid soaring inflation and marking the third straight annual decline since the COVID-19 pandemic hit in 2020, according to data from the U.S. Census Bureau.

Source?

[Skipalongcassidy]

15 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Source?

I see that you are not current on your information sources... try Google... or www.census.gov 

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5 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

This just in... another of Joe's accomplishments... 

American households' income fell last year as their cost of living jumped higher than it has in over four decades amid soaring inflation and marking the third straight annual decline since the COVID-19 pandemic hit in 2020, according to data from the U.S. Census Bureau.

Once again, the double standards of right wingers are confirmed. They're very quick to defend Trump from being held responsible for the economic consequences of the Covid pandemic. But when it comes to Biden, it's all his fault. In fact, the US is outpacing  the rest of the most of the developed nations in its recovery from the massive inflation that afflicted most of the world. Anyone in command of an ounce of rationality would acknowledge that this inflation, being so widespread, cannot rationally be attributed to the actions of any administration. But the response to it can be. And it's clear that Biden's economic program has boosted the US out of descending into a recession. Remember all those predictions of an imminent deep recession facing America with high unemployment? Instead the US is enjoying historic low levels of unemployment. And inflation is falling faster in the US than in other major developed countries.

[candide]

7 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

This just in... another of Joe's accomplishments... 

American households' income fell last year as their cost of living jumped higher than it has in over four decades amid soaring inflation and marking the third straight annual decline since the COVID-19 pandemic hit in 2020, according to data from the U.S. Census Bureau.

One of the lowest inflation rates in G7. Not to mention the highest GDP growth in G7, and also record- low unemployment.

Several accomplishments, indeed!

 

https://www.oecd.org/newsroom/consumer-prices-oecd-updated-5-september-2023.htm

[ozimoron]

On 9/12/2023 at 11:54 AM, Nick Carter icp said:

I don't think that it was a "deal" , just an agreement and as stated  in the report, just a symbolic agreement without much substance and Joe went there just to sign the agreement, rather than to participate in any dialogue , but yeah, seems like he did manage to sign his  name 

That's actually all we expect any president to do, sign his name. All the work was done by experts. When a president does anything other than that we should be worried.

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

That's actually all we expect any president to do, sign his name. All the work was done by experts. When a president does anything other than that we should be worried.

I do think that you've reached the point where you simply think that everything and anything Biden does is right and correct and anything Trump does is wrong and thats the extent of your thought process 

[Nick Carter icp]

Vietjet bought some airplanes from Boeing and it was affirmed during Bidens visit , although the deal was agreed to over a year ago 

 

 

https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/32144-vietjet-to-receive-first-bacth-of-boeing-737-maxs-by-2028

 

VietJet Air to receive first batch of Boeing 737 MAX planes by 2028

BYGABRIELE PETRAUSKAITE

2022-09-12

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5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I do think that you've reached the point where you simply think that everything and anything Biden does is right and correct and anything Trump does is wrong and thats the extent of your thought process 

Thanks for the empty generalization.

[Danderman123]

10 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Vietjet bought some airplanes from Boeing and it was affirmed during Bidens visit , although the deal was agreed to over a year ago 

 

 

https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/32144-vietjet-to-receive-first-bacth-of-boeing-737-maxs-by-2028

 

VietJet Air to receive first batch of Boeing 737 MAX planes by 2028

BYGABRIELE PETRAUSKAITE

2022-09-12

The news is that Vietnam Airlines is buying Boeing jets.