US special counsel Jack Smith asks judge to place gag order on Donald Trump

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

Maybe he can get a loan or 'investment' from the Saudis and MbS. Hey -- it worked for Jared K.

We still don’t know who was funneling money to Trump via Deutsche Bank.

[jerrymahoney]

2 hours ago, Tug said:

I’ve kinda wondered if that has taken place already nobody is going to hand over 2 billion for nothing 

September 9, 2023

 

Just months after leaving the White House in 2021, Jared Kushner secured a $2 billion investment from a Saudi crown prince-led fund, despite objections from the fund’s advisers about the deal.

 

A panel that screens investments for the Saudi sovereign wealth fund expressed concerns about Kushner’s new private equity firm, Affinity Partners. According to The New York Times, they cited issues like the firm’s inexperience, the possibility of the kingdom bearing most of the investment risk, unsatisfactory due diligence on the firm’s operations, an excessive asset management fee, and public relations risks due to Kushner’s previous role as a senior adviser to President Trump.

 

However, the full board of the $620 billion Public Investment Fund, led by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, overruled the panel.

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jared-kushners-post-white-house-211939446.html

[billd766]

18 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

September 9, 2023

 

Just months after leaving the White House in 2021, Jared Kushner secured a $2 billion investment from a Saudi crown prince-led fund, despite objections from the fund’s advisers about the deal.

 

A panel that screens investments for the Saudi sovereign wealth fund expressed concerns about Kushner’s new private equity firm, Affinity Partners. According to The New York Times, they cited issues like the firm’s inexperience, the possibility of the kingdom bearing most of the investment risk, unsatisfactory due diligence on the firm’s operations, an excessive asset management fee, and public relations risks due to Kushner’s previous role as a senior adviser to President Trump.

 

However, the full board of the $620 billion Public Investment Fund, led by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, overruled the panel.

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jared-kushners-post-white-house-211939446.html

Golly gee. Imagine MBS over ruling the advisory panel. I wonder why he did not use his own money and keep all the profits for himself.

 

It is not as if he cannot afford it.

[ozimoron]

The Colorado judge overseeing the first significant lawsuit to bar former President Donald Trump from the state’s 2024 presidential ballot on Friday issued a protective order prohibiting threats and intimidation in the case, saying the safety of those involved — including herself and her staff — was necessary as the groundbreaking litigation moves forward.

 

The order prohibits parties in the case from making threatening or intimidating statements. Scott Gessler, a former Colorado secretary of state representing Trump in the case, opposed it. He said a protective order was unnecessary because threats and intimidation already are prohibited by law.

 

https://apnews.com/article/trump-amendment-ballot-ban-insurrection-colorado-4641bcfff79abf1d5d79dae7c3a73fa6

[jerrymahoney]

Potential for threats from Trump in 14th Amendment case sways Colorado judge
Trial set to begin Oct. 30
SEPTEMBER 22, 2023 

 

Most of the Friday hearing concerned procedural matters. Trump’s lawyer in the case, Scott Gessler, a former Republican Colorado secretary of state, indicated he intends to try to get the case tossed under a recent Colorado law that protects people who exercise First Amendment rights from the threat of lawsuits — known as an anti-SLAPP * law. The allegations against Trump in the case are all “based on his speech,” Gessler said.

 

“We believe it’s a winner,” Gessler said of the pending motion under anti-SLAPP — or “strategic lawsuits against public participation.”

 

https://coloradonewsline.com/2023/09/22/potential-for-threats-from-trump-in-14th-amendment-case-sways-colorado-judge/

 

* Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation (SLAPP suit)

[ozimoron]

4 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Potential for threats from Trump in 14th Amendment case sways Colorado judge
Trial set to begin Oct. 30
SEPTEMBER 22, 2023 

 

Most of the Friday hearing concerned procedural matters. Trump’s lawyer in the case, Scott Gessler, a former Republican Colorado secretary of state, indicated he intends to try to get the case tossed under a recent Colorado law that protects people who exercise First Amendment rights from the threat of lawsuits — known as an anti-SLAPP * law. The allegations against Trump in the case are all “based on his speech,” Gessler said.

 

“We believe it’s a winner,” Gessler said of the pending motion under anti-SLAPP — or “strategic lawsuits against public participation.”

 

https://coloradonewsline.com/2023/09/22/potential-for-threats-from-trump-in-14th-amendment-case-sways-colorado-judge/

 

* Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation (SLAPP suit)

What part of directing fake electors was speech?

[jerrymahoney]

Well if/when counselor Gessler files his anti-SLAPP motion you'll find out what at least he and his client think it is.

[TimeMachine]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Julian’s being looked after, he gets well fed, he comfortably accommodated and he got his teeth fixed for free.

 

He might not be in jail now had he not jumped bail and in doing so ensured he’s not eligible for bail now.

 

 

Think you are missing the side affects of all of this. Forget about Russia Trump Biden Bush whoever. What happens when journalists are not allowed to their job and freedoms of reporting and speech are hindered. Luckily many others still risking their lives. Long Island audit for example. When these people stop fighting for freedoms will quality of life improve for your average citizen. The corruption, stealing , cheating, lying will get worse. Oops . More conspiracy. A very interesting time in humanity where live video streaming exists. But then again, deep fake Tom cruise looks so real. Show him robbing a bank and he's in jail.

Stay real and free people 

[heybruce]

34 minutes ago, TimeMachine said:

Think you are missing the side affects of all of this. Forget about Russia Trump Biden Bush whoever. What happens when journalists are not allowed to their job and freedoms of reporting and speech are hindered. Luckily many others still risking their lives. Long Island audit for example. When these people stop fighting for freedoms will quality of life improve for your average citizen. The corruption, stealing , cheating, lying will get worse. Oops . More conspiracy. A very interesting time in humanity where live video streaming exists. But then again, deep fake Tom cruise looks so real. Show him robbing a bank and he's in jail.

Stay real and free people 

There are limits to free speech.  Witness intimidation is illegal, as it should be.

[Rimmer]

Off topic deflection posts and replies contravening our Community Standards has been removed.    

 

[ozimoron]

It's likely Trump will be arrested and incarcerated on Monday.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-bail-violation-question/

[ozimoron]

 

[thaibeachlovers]

20 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Are you going to fly from New Zealand to the Trump courthouse and angrily stare at the police?

If you pay for me to do so I will. I'm a bit short of cash for that sort of thing.

[jerrymahoney]

From thee RawStory link above:

 

Donald Trump on Friday suggested a retiring general might deserve the death penalty, prompting some to say he went too far and others to ask if the former president violated his court-ordered conditions for release.

 

From the X post above:

 

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

From thee RawStory link above:

 

Donald Trump on Friday suggested a retiring general might deserve the death penalty, prompting some to say he went too far and others to ask if the former president violated his court-ordered conditions for release.

 

From the X post above:

 

So, can we finally agree that Trump is the ultimate trailer trash?

[jerrymahoney]

34 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

So, can we finally agree that Trump is the ultimate trailer trash?

I would have agreed with that going back to the mid-1970's.

 

But it may be that the way to have bail revoked in Washington DC case would require a motion to do so by the Prosecution.

 

But re: the 'gag' order and possible revocation of bail:

 

Renato Mariotti, a former federal prosecutor, said Chutkan has already previewed a way to address his speech and dodge the issue of a gag order, noting the judge has already warned she may have to bump up Trump’s March trial date if outside factors like his comments jeopardize the ability to carry out a fair trial in the courtroom.

“I actually think she’s more likely to do that because it’s not reviewable, really, on appeal, and she has wide discretion to do so. And I could see her moving up the trial date as a way of sending a message to Donald Trump rather than getting herself in this challenging situation where she’s trying to police his speech, which is always a tricky situation for a judge to be in,” Mariotti said last week during an appearance on MSNBC.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4219119-doj-gag-order-trump-jan-6-case-puts-judge-tough-spot

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, ozimoron said:

It's likely Trump will be arrested and incarcerated on Monday.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-bail-violation-question/

ASEAN Now needs a "fingers crossed" icon for posts like this.

 

1 hour ago, jerrymahoney said:

From thee RawStory link above:

 

Donald Trump on Friday suggested a retiring general might deserve the death penalty, prompting some to say he went too far and others to ask if the former president violated his court-ordered conditions for release.

 

From the X post above:

 

Also a WTF icon.  What was the fool tweeting (X-ing?) about?

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, ozimoron said:

It's likely Trump will be arrested and incarcerated on Monday.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-bail-violation-question/

I doubt he’ll have his bail revoke, just yet.

 

My guess is he’ll be handed a significant slap and warned his next transgression will land him in the slammer.

 

The judge will be keen to demonstrate proportionality, but Trump will transgress again, it’s what he does.

 

After a lifetime of never ever being held accountable for anything he’s having difficulty learning the new rules.

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I doubt he’ll have his bail revoke, just yet.

 

My guess is he’ll be handed a significant slap and warned his next transgression will land him in the slammer.

 

The judge will be keen to demonstrate proportionality, but Trump will transgress again, it’s what he does.

 

After a lifetime of never ever being held accountable for anything he’s having difficulty learning the new rules.

I don't think he will get a slap on his tiny hand for advocating assassination of a general.

[Chomper Higgot]

37 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

I don't think he will get a slap on his tiny hand for advocating assassination of a general.

We can live in hope.

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I doubt he’ll have his bail revoke, just yet.

 

My guess is he’ll be handed a significant slap and warned his next transgression will land him in the slammer.

 

The judge will be keen to demonstrate proportionality, but Trump will transgress again, it’s what he does.

 

After a lifetime of never ever being held accountable for anything he’s having difficulty learning the new rules.

That's because he's still not being held accountable. Hopefully that will change soon, but for the moment he's getting away with clear violations of court orders.

[ballpoint]

3 hours ago, ozimoron said:

So, can we finally agree that Trump is the ultimate trailer trash?

If not the ultimate train crash.

[thaibeachlovers]

23 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

I would have agreed with that going back to the mid-1970's.

 

But it may be that the way to have bail revoked in Washington DC case would require a motion to do so by the Prosecution.

 

But re: the 'gag' order and possible revocation of bail:

 

Renato Mariotti, a former federal prosecutor, said Chutkan has already previewed a way to address his speech and dodge the issue of a gag order, noting the judge has already warned she may have to bump up Trump’s March trial date if outside factors like his comments jeopardize the ability to carry out a fair trial in the courtroom.

“I actually think she’s more likely to do that because it’s not reviewable, really, on appeal, and she has wide discretion to do so. And I could see her moving up the trial date as a way of sending a message to Donald Trump rather than getting herself in this challenging situation where she’s trying to police his speech, which is always a tricky situation for a judge to be in,” Mariotti said last week during an appearance on MSNBC.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4219119-doj-gag-order-trump-jan-6-case-puts-judge-tough-spot

That would likely become grounds for an appeal.

[stevenl]

9 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That would likely become grounds for an appeal.

Strange comment after an expert said

"I actually think she’s more likely to do that because it’s not reviewable, really, on appeal,".

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, stevenl said:

Strange comment after an expert said

"I actually think she’s more likely to do that because it’s not reviewable, really, on appeal,".

I must have missed that bit, thanks.

[jerrymahoney]

Trump fights Jack Smith request for narrow gag order in Jan. 6 case
Prosecutors asked a judge to bar the former president’s ‘inflammatory’ attacks on case participants, citing a threat of violence and intimidation of jurors and others

 

September 25, 2023 at 11:39 p.m. EDT

 

After the government request was made public Sept. 15, Trump called special counsel Jack Smith “a deranged person” who “wants to take away my rights under the First Amendment.” His attorneys struck a more restrained tone in a 25-page court filing in Washington, D.C., writing that the court “should reject this transparent gamesmanship and deny the motion entirely.”

 

“Given the significant First Amendment issues presented by the Motion, President Trump respectfully requests the Court schedule a hearing at the first opportunity,” the filing states.
 

The response joins a battle that promises to be a recurring feature of Trump’s multiple state and federal criminal cases and that highlights challenges facing prosecutors and judges in the historic attempts to prosecute a former American president and active candidate.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/09/25/trump-gag-order-response/

 

https://archive.ph/zaOGG

 

 

 

[TimeMachine]

Trump Brand Assange all this news makes me think China is running the show all over in recent times. 

But in reality I guess no major difference between the two cultures. One is just better at it. 

[Danderman123]

On 9/24/2023 at 4:22 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

If you pay for me to do so I will. I'm a bit short of cash for that sort of thing.

Donated too much money to Trump?

[Danderman123]

The solution is for the judge to mandate that Trump run his public releases through his lawyers.

[thaibeachlovers]

13 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Donated too much money to Trump?

Why would I give anything to him?

Did you want to get your post count up with a pointless post?