ozimoron Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Just now, BenStark said: Why you don't enlighten us, you always seem to know everything Mirror mirror, who made the claim? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 17 hours ago, KhunLA said: UAW workers get like $28-$32 an hour, and they want a 40% raise. No wonder the crap they build is too expensive to compete with non USA brands made in the USA. Why does Donald Trump say he supports the UAW strike? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Just now, Danderman123 said: Why does Donald Trump say he supports the UAW strike? Did he say that directly to the auto workers in the non union shop he went to? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenStark Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Mirror mirror, who made the claim? Here you go mate, straight from the horse mouth https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDcQw7AJahcKEwig5sfao8yBAxUAAAAAHQAAAAAQAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fuaw.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F10%2FUpdated-Highlights-PDF-for-Salaried-Workers-1.pdf&psig=AOvVaw3kCCdsQ8XJXH56nb2hUFlZ&ust=1695955228057144&opi=89978449 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Why does Donald Trump say he supports the UAW strike? Is that rhetorical, as you're asking the wrong person, as I don't care. I support Biden in 2024, as worked out best for me so far, so keep that high inflation/COLA coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 21 hours ago, Jingthing said: I get it. You're against Biden. I find your attacks cheap and weak. He is pres. Why doesnt he change the laws? All fake. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted September 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2023 Just now, bignok said: He is pres. Why doesnt he change the laws? All fake. Congress makes laws, not the President. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Danderman123 said: Studies show that states with higher murder rates are those that vote red even as conservatives stoke fear about crime Wrong. It's the Red states that have more crime problems. That's just because the liberal states just don't report petty crime any more. Any shoplifting below $950 is no longer a crime, and the big chains just move out. https://www.hoover.org/research/why-shoplifting-now-de-facto-legal-california "Crime is rising almost everywhere in California, including violent crime. Homicides in California jumped 31 percent last year, making 2020 the deadliest year since 2007. The 2,202 homicides in 2020 represent an increase of 523 over 2019. Homicides in Los Angeles rose 40 percent to 332, and they rose 35 percent to 285 in San Francisco. Both San Francisco and Los Angeles feature district attorneys who are perceived to be soft on crime, and both are facing the possibility of a recall election. Gives a whole new take on defunding police, doesn’t it?" Edited September 28, 2023 by BritManToo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted September 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, BritManToo said: That's just because the social marxist states just don't report petty crime any more. Any shoplifting below $950 is no longer a crime, and the big chains just move out. https://www.hoover.org/research/why-shoplifting-now-de-facto-legal-california "Crime is rising almost everywhere in California, including violent crime. Homicides in California jumped 31 percent last year, making 2020 the deadliest year since 2007. The 2,202 homicides in 2020 represent an increase of 523 over 2019. Homicides in Los Angeles rose 40 percent to 332, and they rose 35 percent to 285 in San Francisco. Both San Francisco and Los Angeles feature district attorneys who are perceived to be soft on crime, and both are facing the possibility of a recall election. Gives a whole new take on defunding police, doesn’t it?" i posted a chart about homicides, and your response was about shoplifting. Why are murder rates higher in Red states? 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Danderman123 said: i posted a chart about homicides, and your response was about shoplifting. Why are murder rates higher in Red states? Starts with G for GOP and ends with S for Stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted September 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Starts with G for GOP and ends with S for Stupid. i have to believe that part of the motivation of the Trump fans to post here is emotional. They just have to post, they don't care if what they post is easily refuted. They just want to express their feelings that the other "tribe" is wrong. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 On 9/27/2023 at 6:18 PM, Nick Carter icp said: Does Joe often join picket lines or is it just this once ? Does Joe have a habit of standing shoulder to should with the workers and is that his primary concern for attending or does he just want to win the Michigan vote ? No prizes for guessing the correct answer. Has Joe EVER joined a strike action in all his decades in the US government in the party of the "worker" 5555555555? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Danderman123 said: i have to believe that part of the motivation of the Trump fans to post here is emotional. They just have to post, they don't care if what they post is easily refuted. They just want to express their feelings that the other "tribe" is wrong. LOL. I can remember more than a few of your side's opinion that post meaningless insults directed at a certain individual. Pot, kettle, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted September 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2023 2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: No prizes for guessing the correct answer. Has Joe EVER joined a strike action in all his decades in the US government in the party of the "worker" 5555555555? Probably. It's not usually newsworthy when a Dem joins a picket line. Tell me when your man Trump joins a picket line. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlinclaifornia Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 9 hours ago, impulse said: Gosh, what's next? Blaming the Repubs for the horrendous crime sprees happening in Dem controlled cities, because they refuse to sit down and rewrite the laws around organized smash and grab looting? Repubs simply want to enforce the laws already on the books. They worked fine for decades. And they recognize that having theft and immigration laws on the books is meaningless if they're not being enforced. Like at the border, which was pretty darn secure until Biden's first day in office. And in the cities, before no-cash bail, defunding the police and the Summer of Mostly Peaceful Arson and Looting disguised as protests. Ah yes, https://www.ncja.org/crimeandjusticenews/is-it-true-that-eight-of-the-top-ten-murder-states-are-red-states Is It True That Eight Of The Top Ten Murder States Are 'Red' States? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebike Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 7 hours ago, BritManToo said: That's just because the liberal states just don't report petty crime any more. The study was about murder rates. What does petty crime have to do with it? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, mikebike said: The study was about murder rates. What does petty crime have to do with it? Postal voters are unable to kill anyone , that's what Dem areas get fewer murders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: No prizes for guessing the correct answer. Has Joe EVER joined a strike action in all his decades in the US government in the party of the "worker" 5555555555? In my 50 years of working life I never joined a union, joined in a strike action. Why would I need to? I didn't need anybody to tell me to withdraw my labour (thus earning only my strike pay which I would pay for in union subscriptions). In effect I would be paying myself in the hope of possibly getting more money in the future. And having to work longer just to get my money back that I lost. Nor would I be happy if another union official called the members out on strike to support me, thus dropping themselves down to strike level pay. If I wasn't happy then I could always leave and get another job elsewhere, and I did, twice. I can understand the historical reasons why the unions started. Why should President Biden NEED to join a strike action in the first place. It is a personal choice that HE made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 13 hours ago, Danderman123 said: Probably. It's not usually newsworthy when a Dem joins a picket line. Tell me when your man Trump joins a picket line. Trump was speaking to the autoworkers in Detroit and seems to have a lot of support there. Many U Tube VDOs about it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 10 hours ago, billd766 said: Why should President Biden NEED to join a strike action in the first place. It is a personal choice that HE made. LOL. Personal choice yes, but his motivation would be significant. Short of some other explanation, I'm going with he's worried about losing to Trump so making political gestures he thinks will make him more popular. That's what most politicians do at election time, and nothing to do with actually supporting such as the autoworkers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted September 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2023 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: LOL. Personal choice yes, but his motivation would be significant. Short of some other explanation, I'm going with he's worried about losing to Trump so making political gestures he thinks will make him more popular. That's what most politicians do at election time, and nothing to do with actually supporting such as the autoworkers. Ahhh Joe comes from a blue collar family it’s entirely appropriate that he would support the working man it’s kinda his thing.donald is a New York City trust fund baby who stiffs contractors hope that helps 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Trump was speaking to the autoworkers in Detroit and seems to have a lot of support there. Many U Tube VDOs about it. Not union members. He even faked union members with placards. Don't you find that dishonest? I guess all the dishonesty is like water off a republican's back? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted November 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2023 The UAW and Biden won the strike. As usual, the Democrats fought to raise wages for working people, and the Republicans resisted. The Democrats want billionaires to pay their fair share of taxes, but the Republicans resist. It's like the Republicsns only care about billionaires. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 On 9/27/2023 at 11:43 AM, Chomper Higgot said: I joined a Union at age 18. At age 20 I won a company bursary to support me reading Engineering at University. The company reneged on the award. My Union took the case up for me and got me the bursary I had earned. I would not have been able to afford to go to university without my union’s help, nor might I ever have had a well paid career as a professional engineer. I’ve been a proud union member ever since, always pay my dues, always thankful the positive help my Union gave me. Working people shilling for employers against unions, AKA class traitors, cap doffers and forelock tuggers. "Then I got Mary pregnant And, man, that was all she wrote And for my nineteenth birthday I got a union card and a wedding coat...." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illisdean Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 On 9/28/2023 at 10:12 PM, thaibeachlovers said: LOL. Personal choice yes, but his motivation would be significant. Short of some other explanation, I'm going with he's worried about losing to Trump so making political gestures he thinks will make him more popular. That's what most politicians do at election time, and nothing to do with actually supporting such as the autoworkers. "Interviews with a diverse group of striking autoworkers and other voters in the critical battleground state of Michigan this week highlighted Biden’s troubles: Many of them had voted for him in 2020 and appreciate that he joined the picket line Tuesday. But several were frustrated with his handling of high prices and other economic issues — and not yet sold on voting for him again next year." Tone Woods, a Black building trades worker from Detroit, said he is also undecided after voting for Biden in 2020. He attended Trump’s speech Wednesday in the Detroit area. “Gas is high. Inflation. So that’s why I’m stuck in the middle,” he said. He is considering Trump because “the economy was a little better when Trump was in office, to be honest with you.” https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/29/white-house-bidenomics-failure-00118949 Bidenomics high inflation is also making history, highest in 40 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 On 11/29/2023 at 10:13 AM, illisdean said: "Interviews with a diverse group of striking autoworkers and other voters in the critical battleground state of Michigan this week highlighted Biden’s troubles: Many of them had voted for him in 2020 and appreciate that he joined the picket line Tuesday. But several were frustrated with his handling of high prices and other economic issues — and not yet sold on voting for him again next year." Tone Woods, a Black building trades worker from Detroit, said he is also undecided after voting for Biden in 2020. He attended Trump’s speech Wednesday in the Detroit area. “Gas is high. Inflation. So that’s why I’m stuck in the middle,” he said. He is considering Trump because “the economy was a little better when Trump was in office, to be honest with you.” https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/29/white-house-bidenomics-failure-00118949 Bidenomics high inflation is also making history, highest in 40 years. Inflation in the US is dropping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illisdean Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Danderman123 said: Inflation in the US is dropping. As is Biden's ratings and job approvals, a positive correlation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, illisdean said: As is Biden's ratings and job approvals, a positive correlation. watch and learn. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illisdean Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Danderman123 said: watch and learn. I think you said that already, nothing to learn, it's quite obvious to a rational and casual observer except you. A picture can speak "watch and learn" for you. I'll help you out here... Enjoy. Enjoy. Edited December 3, 2023 by illisdean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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