3 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Stop calling them refugees; an overwhelming number of the migrants invading Europe in the hope of a better life, are economic migrants that are not coming from war-zones. They are also predominantly males between the ages of 15 - 30, so consequently at the hight of their lifetimes testosterone levels;  arriving without wives and girlfriends … it’s a potentially disastrous scenario, as many European countries have already experienced

War zones or economically massaged.... same same end desired objective with undesired side effects.

 

1 minute ago, RanongCat said:

Educate me . I am  not  Transman

Glad to hear it, I bet the operation is painful.....????

1 minute ago, RanongCat said:

War zones or economically massaged.... same same end desired objective with undesired side effects.

 

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off-topic again, have you forgot medication or something.....????

2 hours ago, CharlieKo said:

The whole thing is a joke. The UK has been powerless to stop boat people from reaching the shores of not so Great Britain. Saying it's about economics and democracy is miss characterising the problem. For centuries the west has been raping the African continent. Now they wonder why these people come to the UK. 

 

It's payback time. After centuries of colonial control. the colonies are now knocking on the door.  

(Thanks to Theresa May signing the UK up to the United Nations proposal to make immigration human right, in December 2018.) She resigned 5 months later.

7 minutes ago, transam said:

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off-topic again, have you forgot medication or something.....????

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1 hour ago, bob smith said:

I might be Syrian for all you know!

 

What does it matter where someone is from?

 

We are ALL human.

States are a figment of the sapiens imagination.

 

They aren't real.

Post of the month, well put Bob

In my posts on this topic that encompasses refugee status in general it is  always so easy to  invoke outrage at the  very graphic and so often tragic  outcomes of desperate attempts  of people to escape  real or perceived fatal dangers by reference to the longer term economic  cost to the target society. What is stringently deflected from is the root  cause and strategic interests of those remote from general society.

That I can have an opinion that differs to that held by consensus to the force fed propaganda provided by a monopolist media should not be a surprise to those with a reasonable degree of independent analytical capacity that does not require agreement.

 

 

45 minutes ago, RanongCat said:

War zones or economically massaged.... same same end desired objective with undesired side effects.

 

So you are now redefining the internationally accepted qualification of refugees, as that of people having fled war, violence, conflict or persecution  ………..… to those that have been economically massaged; any idea how embarrassing that is for you (rhetorical)

5 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

So you are now redefining the internationally accepted qualification of refugees, as that of people having fled war, violence, conflict or persecution  ………..… to those that have been economically massaged; any idea how embarrassing that is for you (rhetorical)

Actually  not at all embarrassing. Vindication of argument in defiance of the concept . Thanks

12 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

So you are now redefining the internationally accepted qualification of refugees, as that of people having fled war, violence, conflict or persecution  ………..… to those that have been economically massaged; any idea how embarrassing that is for you (rhetorical)

You need an explanation?  Persons fleeing a country that has had economic interference directed towards or  away from influencial figures  or administrations for the  purposes of gaining external control and/or access to significant assets to the detriment of local inhabitant citizens.

Kindly get denially eloquent about the genocidal attacks on populations driven  off or away from mineral deposits etc by militants who have been funded  to provide the capacity in false belief that of longer term interest. 

 

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

The Countries were prospering during colonial rule , the recent  hardships only began when colonial  rule ended 

Absolute rubbish. Under colonialism they were slaves. But the colonials prospered.

20 hours ago, bob smith said:

she is a deplorable human being.

Elucidate?

19 hours ago, tkramer said:

Even better, Braveman wants anybody who has first entered a previous EU country... completely  disqualified...as the are no longer a refugee/migrant to the UK by definition.

Probably true, I believe they're supposed to apply from the first safe country that they reach. Here's betting however, that most of that lot landing up on Lampedusa will find it's way to the UK. The perks are just too good to ignore.

22 hours ago, HauptmannUK said:

biometric ID card

I would rather not have this.

There was a B/W TV play when I was a kid about a government department whose job it was to identify people of various original nationalities (a bit like Suella) and have them deported - even if they were officially English. 

 

The department head was Scottish. He did his job with aggression and when the government announced such and such a  race was to be deported, he went after them with a vengeance. His staff hated him for his enthusiasm to deport English people of various origins.

 

At the very end, staff whispered to each other, "Don't worry, we don't have to put up with him for long. I heard they are getting rid of the Scottish next."

 

That's where the Nasty Party are headed.

8 minutes ago, Purdey said:

There was a B/W TV play when I was a kid about a government department whose job it was to identify people of various original nationalities (a bit like Suella) and have them deported - even if they were officially English. 

 

The department head was Scottish. He did his job with aggression and when the government announced such and such a  race was to be deported, he went after them with a vengeance. His staff hated him for his enthusiasm to deport English people of various origins.

 

At the very end, staff whispered to each other, "Don't worry, we don't have to put up with him for long. I heard they are getting rid of the Scottish next."

 

That's where the Nasty Party are headed.

That is a ridiculous suggestion and the U.K will not be deporting people because they look foreign , you need to keep fiction separated from fact 

On 9/27/2023 at 5:36 PM, HauptmannUK said:

This is all about jockeying for position in the Conservative Party. Braverman is the latest in a long line of blowhards who talk tough but fail to act. The UK might like to start cracking down on illegals by introducing a biometric ID card for all legal residents. 

i truly think that she wants to act. However, all the do-gooders in the UK have crippled her ability. If she is truly stating what she states, and is wimping out...then damn her to hell for wasting everybody's time. FIRED...!!!

On 9/27/2023 at 4:25 PM, bob smith said:

she is a deplorable human being.

Thank you, Hum Noi...

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

That is a ridiculous suggestion and the U.K will not be deporting people because they look foreign , you need to keep fiction separated from fact 

One word, Windrush.

Google it. 

2 minutes ago, Purdey said:

One word, Windrush.

Google it. 

One word , Overturned