Beer

[KannikaP]

Just opened my big Singha bottle, which  says 620 ml. Filled the bottle up with water and here is the result.

20 ml less, which is 3.33% they are cheating you out of.

[terryq]

Assuming that your 'lab standard' measuring jug is correctly calibrated.

 

 

 

[KannikaP]

  On 9/28/2023 at 10:45 AM, terryq said:

Assuming that your 'lab standard' measuring jug is correctly calibrated.

 

 

 

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Agreed. I shall do further investigations.

 

I only posted this because a certain other member said that I only whinged but did not start any important threads, like Pie vs Pizza, or underpants when not in your home.  555

[KhunLA]

  On 9/28/2023 at 11:00 AM, KannikaP said:

Agreed. I shall do further investigations.

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Next time weigh the beer.  As water and beer are so close in weight, as are different beers that the difference would be miniscule.  Nothing near 3%, or even 1%.  So round down the difference, and that's what they're cheating you, and you're probably being very generous.

 

 

[transam]

Perhaps the 620ml is what the bottle can actually hold, all beer in bottles has a free space gap in the neck.

Have you noticed that the different Thai brands have a different ml capacity, Archar is the biggest at 630ml..????

[KannikaP]

  On 9/28/2023 at 11:07 AM, KhunLA said:

Next time weigh the beer.  As water and beer are so close in weight, as are different beers that the difference would be miniscule.  Nothing near 3%, or even 1%.  So round down the difference, and that's what they're cheating you, and you're probably being very generous.

 

 

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620ml is a measure of Volume so the weight does not matter. 620ml of Duckhams 20/50 is the same volume as 620 ml of H2O.

[KannikaP]

  On 9/28/2023 at 11:11 AM, transam said:

Perhaps the 620ml is what the bottle can actually hold, all beer in bottles has a free space gap in the neck.

Have you noticed that the different Thai brands have a different ml capacity, Archar is the biggest at 630ml..????

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So 10 ml more cat pee than Singha! 555

[transam]

  On 9/28/2023 at 11:11 AM, KannikaP said:

620ml is a measure of Volume so the weight does not matter. 620ml of Duckhams 20/50 is the same volume as 620 ml of H2O.

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Yes, even fridge space is measured in litres........????

[KannikaP]

  On 9/28/2023 at 11:07 AM, KhunLA said:

Next time weigh the beer.  As water and beer are so close in weight, as are different beers that the difference would be miniscule.  Nothing near 3%, or even 1%.  So round down the difference, and that's what they're cheating you, and you're probably being very generous.

 

 

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620 ml of water will weigh 620 gm, whereas 620 ml of beer will weigh more, as would 620 ml of Bisto gravy.

[KannikaP]

  On 9/28/2023 at 11:13 AM, transam said:

Yes, even fridge space is measured in litres........????

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That doesn't really make sense, should be in cc's, cubic centimetres as in car engines. But more interesting than Pies v Pizza or Underpants !

It's a long time since I was at school, but is one millilitre the same as one cubic centimetre.

[transam]

  On 9/28/2023 at 11:13 AM, KannikaP said:

So 10 ml more can pee than Singha! 555

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Indeed....My tipple of choice is Archa..........????

[KannikaP]

  On 9/28/2023 at 11:17 AM, transam said:

Indeed....My tipple of choice is Archa..........????

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I have not tried it, but on your valued recommendation, I shall be in Makro at 11.01 tomorrow. Are there different ones?

[transam]

  On 9/28/2023 at 11:19 AM, KannikaP said:

I have not tried it, but on your valued recommendation, I shall be in Makro at 11.01 tomorrow. Are there different ones?

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No, just the cheapest, but I find it refreshing, though I can drink near anything, plus my local booze agent likes me, she charges me 250 bht for  6 bottles ...........????

[KannikaP]

  On 9/28/2023 at 10:39 AM, KannikaP said:

Just opened my big Singha bottle, which  says 620 ml. Filled the bottle up with water and here is the result.

20 ml less, which is 3.33% they are cheating you out of.

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All you SAD, CONFUSED, and LAUGHING emojis mean nothing. Tell me what you think please.

[PR3]

Weigh 620g of water into the same bottle and see if it arrives at the same level, sorry if someone posted this already.

[KannikaP]

  On 9/28/2023 at 11:23 AM, transam said:

No, just the cheapest, but I find it refreshing, though I can drink near anything, plus my local booze agent likes me, she charges me 250 bht for  6 bottles ...........????

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33ml or big un's. 6 x 33 = 2 litres. 

I get 3 x big (620ml) Singhas for Bht 188 from a shop 1km from me. ( And a pretty owner! )

[KhunLA]

  On 9/28/2023 at 11:14 AM, KannikaP said:

620 ml of water will weigh 620 gm, whereas 620 ml of beer will weigh more, as would 620 ml of Bisto gravy.

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620ml water = 620gr

620ml beer = ~620gr

"One litre of beer corresponds to about one kilogram"

 

Difference is negligible, and not worth noting.

[KannikaP]

  On 9/28/2023 at 11:28 AM, KhunLA said:

620ml water = 620gr

620ml beer = ~620gr

"One litre of beer corresponds to about one kilogram"

 

Difference is negligible, and not worth noting.

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Is the Specific Gravity of Ethanol the same as water?

Dunno, it is negligible. It's the principle of saying it is 620 ml when it is only 600ml. 

[transam]

  On 9/28/2023 at 11:26 AM, KannikaP said:

33ml or big un's. 6 x 33 = 2 litres. 

I get 3 x big (620ml) Singhas for Bht 188 from a shop 1km from me. ( And a pretty owner! )

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Big bottles, 630ml x 6 = 3.78 litrs

[KannikaP]

  On 9/28/2023 at 11:32 AM, transam said:

Big bottles, 630ml x 6 = 3.78 litrs

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250 Bht? I'm in for that.

[Yorkshire Tea]

Volume changes with temperature.  Not sure by how much, but a cold beer from the fridge will have smaller volume than a warm one.

 

F1 measures fuel by weight, not volume.

[transam]

  On 9/28/2023 at 11:34 AM, KannikaP said:

250 Bht? I'm in for that.

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At MY agents.........????

[KannikaP]

  On 9/28/2023 at 10:39 AM, KannikaP said:

Just opened my big Singha bottle, which  says 620 ml. Filled the bottle up with water and here is the result.

20 ml less, which is 3.33% they are cheating you out of.

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One CONFUSED and one SAD. Come on, tell me why please.

[KhunLA]

  On 9/28/2023 at 11:31 AM, KannikaP said:

Is the Specific Gravity of Ethanol the same as water?

Dunno, it is negligible. It's the principle of saying it is 620 ml when it is only 600ml. 

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Do as suggested, weigh 620gr of water, and pour in your meauring vessel, than see if beer comes up to same level.

 

 

[KannikaP]

  On 9/28/2023 at 11:37 AM, transam said:

At MY agents.........????

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Do they do Cash on Delivery. ? 555

[transam]

  On 9/28/2023 at 11:38 AM, KannikaP said:

Do they do Cash on Delivery. ? 555

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Dunno, but as I said, she likes me, the normal price is 50bht per bottle...So, over the month I save a few quid.......

[KannikaP]

  On 9/28/2023 at 11:37 AM, KhunLA said:

Do as suggested, weigh 620gr of water, and pour in your meauring vessel, than see if beer comes up to same level.

 

 

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620 ml/cc of water WILL weigh 620gm, unless it is from a UK water company and contains a certain percent of 5hite. But let's go with bottled water. 

So are you suggesting I take 620 ml of beer, or 620 gm of beer? 

[KannikaP]

  On 9/28/2023 at 11:41 AM, transam said:

Dunno, but as I said, she likes me, the normal price is 50bht per bottle...So, over the month I save a few quid.......

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Great. 5u..k the taste or hangover. !  Love it Trans.

[KannikaP]

  On 9/28/2023 at 11:36 AM, Yorkshire Tea said:

Volume changes with temperature.  Not sure by how much, but a cold beer from the fridge will have smaller volume than a warm one.

 

F1 measures fuel by weight, not volume.

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Yes, very understandable, thanks. So keep my beer at room temperature and I will get more.

[BenStark]

  On 9/28/2023 at 11:36 AM, Yorkshire Tea said:

Volume changes with temperature.  Not sure by how much, but a cold beer from the fridge will have smaller volume than a warm one.

 

 

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I think it is just the opposite, liquid expands when it get cooled.