Just now, RanongCat said:

Unfortunately the ICTJ is a formative/legislative  body and  not the ICC.

Hamas is  guilty of  terrorism.  Have they, on behalf of the Palestinian Territories answered to declaration of  War ? 

So you're telling me you know more than the head of ICTJ who works with war crimes daily.

 

Are you also telling me that that because Palestine is a signatory that the West Bank and Gaza is not part of that? 

 

Try reading the link in full and stop the nonsense deflection and lies. Provide a link to dispute the ICTJ 

Just now, scottiejohn said:

I thought think they might be one and the same!

Don't think so, but both in the same bracket..............😁

5 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

And the people who condemn both Hamas and Israel equally?

You mean folks trying to make it all look the same?  

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

So you're telling me you know more than the head of ICTJ who works with war crimes daily.

 

Are you also telling me that that because Palestine is a signatory that the West Bank and Gaza is not part of that? 

 

Try reading the link in full and stop the nonsense deflection and lies. Provide a link to dispute the ICTJ 

I am well aware of the role of the ICTJ  and ICTR . Remedial organisations . The ICC  has a higher role but often with blunt teeth.

Just now, RanongCat said:

I am well aware of the role of the ICTJ  and ICTR . Remedial organisations . The ICC  has a higher role but often with blunt teeth.

You are obviously not and you have provided nothing to back up your claims as expected

 

The International Criminal Court has the jurisdiction to investigate potential war crimes in Israel and Palestine.

https://theconversation.com/where-the-icc-stands-if-war-crimes-are-committed-on-either-side-of-the-israel-hamas-war-216093

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

 

Did I say I know better? You are just trolling now. The link disputes what you claimed. Its up to you to prove your case with a credible link not hyperbole

Your wasting your time Brian and you will just get frustrated if you say it's Raining they will say no it's not and it will go on and on, don't feed them.

Just now, RanongCat said:

The "go to " of trolling ?  Grow up !  Which link "disputes" my presentation ?

 

You didn't make a presentation you made unsubstantiated claims, read your posts. and stop the deflection troll

 

"Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source."

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

 

You didn't make a presentation you made unsubstantiated claims, read your posts. and stop the deflection troll

 

"Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source."

So do it . Supply a link to disprove. And  YOU are not a credible  source ....sorry.

Just now, RanongCat said:

So do it . Supply a link to disprove

You've lost the plot again, I've already done that

2 minutes ago, RanongCat said:

Aha ! The  Godfather speaks.  Not  yet  and  not yet. But potentially  OHY !

 

 

Not in the past, not now, and not 'potentially'. There's enough to this topic without adding hysteria, hyperbole and misinformation.

5 minutes ago, RanongCat said:

Oh so you  know  better ? Think not ! Revise  your assumed knowledge  is  my  recommendation. And why such aggression ?

Is it because I express  objection to  genocidal activities ? The positioning of the Gaza Strip as an extermination  camp ? 

You can't 'genocide' a terror group. Worth a thought though.

 

All you complain about is expressly because Hamas, a terror group, hides among innocent civilians. Ask them to step outside Gaza to protect those civilians, and you solve your problem. Oh, and using human shields is a war crime. 

Just now, Morch said:

 

 

Not in the past, not now, and not 'potentially'. There's enough to this topic without adding hysteria, hyperbole and misinformation.

I feel compelled to disagree. Certainly there is a massive  degree of hysteria, hyperbole, and misinformation.

What is  lacking  within the  turmoil of that soup is  any  counter or  balance to  the slanted aforementioned on behalf of  the innocent.

Is it  to you  to dictate the  flavour of the discussion or are we in a single sided propagandist lecture ?

 

4 minutes ago, rabas said:

You can't 'genocide' a terror group. Worth a thought though.

 

All you complain about is expressly because Hamas, a terror group, hides among innocent civilians. Ask them to step outside Gaza to protect those civilians, and you solve your problem. Oh, and using human shields is a war crime. 

Worth a thought  also is that to decimate a population as a means to  eliminate a terror  group is not a  humane way  to solve a problem. My problem?  Your  problem ?   Strange  words .

8 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

There is no 'genocide' and the Gaza Strip is not an 'extermination camp'.

You're way over the top.

 Latest UN Press release from the 24th Nov 2023

 

https://press.un.org/en/2023/gashc4390.doc.htm#:~:text=In response%2C Israeli occupation forces,and killing around 5%2C000 people.

Just now, Jeff the Chef said:

 Latest UN Press release from the 24th Nov 2023

 

https://press.un.org/en/2023/gashc4390.doc.htm#:~:text=In response%2C Israeli occupation forces,and killing around 5%2C000 people.

 

That was posted 4 pages ago and there's still no 'genocide' and the Gaza Strip is not an 'extermination camp'.

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

 

That was posted 4 pages ago and there's still no 'genocide' and the Gaza Strip is not an 'extermination camp'.

Oh well, won't hurt anybody reading it again then will it?

7 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Oh well, won't hurt anybody reading it again then will it?

Not at all, here's a paragraph from it:

 

"The representative of Israel said the Special Rapporteur hides behind the guise of human rights to spread lies about his country following the worst attack on Jewish people since the Holocaust.  She is not independent or unbiased, he said, citing instances of support for the terrorist group Hamas on social media and her use of the term “Jewish lobby”. Worse, at an online conference in Gaza, Ms. Albanese said that resistance to occupation requires violence. Is slicing open a pregnant woman and removing the fetus and stabbing it required violence?  Does it look like 1,400 dead Israelis and kidnapped hostages, he asked.  Condemning the Rapporteur for questioning clear acts of genocide committed by Hamas, he highlighted the irony of her taking offense when her antisemitism is called out.  Israel refuses to engage with her, he said, decrying that the UN empowers an antisemitic voice by providing a platform to spread vitriol."

 

EDIT & there we have a laughing trolling emoji placed on a serious statement from Israel on the atrocities of Hamas. 

39 minutes ago, rabas said:

You mean folks trying to make it all look the same?  

 

It is clearly not the same.

 

Hamas wins on barbarity, Israel wins on bodycount.

Both sides commit atrocities against innocents.

Both sides should be condemned by all.

6 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

I thought think they might be one and the same!

Think again, do I sound like an anti semetic!

1 minute ago, Wobblybob said:

Think again, do I sound like an anti semetic!

 Response deleted out of courtesy!

Just now, MrMojoRisin said:

 

It is clearly not the same.

 

Hamas wins on barbarity, Israel wins on bodycount.

Both sides commit atrocities against innocents.

Both sides should be condemned by all.

 

You forgot it's most important to find a way to stop it.

 

That is the only humane path. Letting it repeat is the worst crime of all.

Just now, Wobblybob said:

Think again, do I sound like an anti semetic!

 

Don't let them come between us Bob, we have such a lovely thing going.

😘

5 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

Wrong "Bob"!

 

6 hours ago, transam said:

I doubt it, he has stated he and Bob are having fun here, that just about lines the dots up...

Did you mean me?

Just now, rabas said:

 

You forgot it's most important to find a way to stop it.

 

That is the only humane path. Letting it repeat is the worst crime of all.

 

Repeat it will, again and again, until Israel changes course.

It  is  undeniably  obvious that the predominant  ideology of the most aggressive advocates of Israel is they have already  dehumanized  Palestinians as a population based  predominantly as followers of  Islam  which  by reason of  indoctrination implies "threat".

And in my lifetime thus  far I have only  suffered criminal insult at the  hands of  Christians and Jews but never from any within the Muslim environment I lived in  prior to  life in Thailand.

I do not  deny, nor my Muslim friends and  associates that the extremist and radical activities they undertake  are against the principles of  any civilized society. And within the  jurisdictions of Muslim  societies  there is no tolerance for such.

But even in movies based on  real or fictional abuses of inmates in a prison operated  by an administration that escapes accountability in humanitarian oversight such  movies  invoke a  displaced sympathy for the  abused  regardless of the  possibly  horrific crimes that  placed them  in incarceration. Such it could be seen to  be  in the Gaza  strip.

In the  West Bank it  is and has been  just an incremental  blatant theft.

 

 

37 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

There is no 'genocide' and the Gaza Strip is not an 'extermination camp'.

You're way over the top.

Were they not building an extermination camp in the area during WW2 in the event Germany took over the region? Maybe that's what he's thinking of....

5 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

Repeat it will, again and again, until Israel changes course.

Repeat it will, again and again, until the perpetrators of the 7 October missile strikes Israel changes course.

49 minutes ago, RanongCat said:

The positioning of the Gaza Strip as an extermination  camp ? 

 

 

Do you honestly expect any of your comments to be given any credence by anyone on this forum, when you make outrageously dishonest, and inflammatory statements, simply for the sensationalist effect they will have on the few nodding dog Hamas appeasers on here.

 

And you have had the temerity to tell other posters on here to “grow up”  …… the irony is palpable

Just now, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

Do you honestly expect any of your comments to be given any credence by anyone on this forum, when you make outrageously dishonest, and inflammatory statements, simply for the sensationalist effect they will have on the few nodding dog Hamas appeasers on here.

 

And you have had the temerity to tell other posters on here to “grow up”  …… the irony is palpable

Quote me, expose  me said  dishonest   posts  . Be  sure that they are  and  not  simply in  contradiction to your own or associatess

8 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

Do you honestly expect any of your comments to be given any credence by anyone on this forum, when you make outrageously dishonest, and inflammatory statements, simply for the sensationalist effect they will have on the few nodding dog Hamas appeasers on here.

 

And you have had the temerity to tell other posters on here to “grow up”  …… the irony is palpable

Now that's funny