'misconduct' | Derry U.K. doctor who called Covid jab into question suspended for further six months

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

A medical tribunal, sitting in Manchester, found that her actions fell below standards expected of a doctor

 

A doctor who had claimed medical profession and government agents had schemed against her after she publicly called into question Covid jabs for young people has been suspended for a further six months.

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The tribunal found that Dr McCloskey's actions fell below standards expected of a registered doctor and that this amounted to misconduct, which was considered serious.

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She was suspended after her comments, including that young people were being coerced, bullied, bribed and cajoled into receiving the vaccine, attracted a number of complaints.

 

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https://www.sundayworld.com/news/irish-news/derry-doctor-who-called-covid-jab-into-question-suspended-for-further-six-months/a682511071.html

 

 

Background:

GP gets 6-month suspension for 'vitriolic' Covid jab comments

A tribunal said her comments risked undermining public faith in other medics

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"Londonderry-based Dr Mary McCloskey claimed the pandemic was a 'figment' of the media and the Government and that jabs don't work and were killing people. 

 

She also claimed tests and face masks were being used as a psychological weapons to spread fear and experts were 'laughing' at the public via how they named variants of the virus. 

 

In one of her most inflammatory statements on Covid vaccines, she claimed parents were being 'told to line up our children to get something that might kill them, to protect them from something that can’t kill them'."

 

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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/health-news/gp-gets-6-month-suspension-for-vitriolic-covid-jab-comments/ar-AA1jjNFs

 

Note - various of the news reports on this indicate the doctor originally in September 2021 had been given an 18 month interim suspension by authorities, so this latest action added an additional 6 months term.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-foyle-west-58667747

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Report spotlights 52 US doctors who posted potentially harmful COVID misinformation online

August 17, 2023

 

"Two new studies describe a couple sources of the COVID-19 "infodemic" on social media: US physicians and proponents and practitioners of "doing your own research."

Vaccine untruths, conspiracy theories

A mixed-methods study published yesterday in JAMA Network Open finds that 52 physicians practicing in 28 different specialties across the United States propagated COVID-19 misinformation on vaccines, masks, and conspiracy theories on social media and other online platforms from January 2021 to December 2022.

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They noted that about a third of the more than 1.1 million reported COVID-19 deaths in the United States as of January 18, 2023, were considered preventable if public health recommendations such as vaccination and physical distancing had been followed."

 

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https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/report-spotlights-52-us-doctors-who-posted-potentially-harmful-covid-misinformation-online

 

[Amethyst]

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[save the frogs]

The plot thickens.

 

I think I will die from confusion and madness brought about not being sure what to believe anymore. 

 

[rattlesnake]

She's on the right side of history.

[Dcheech]

You are not sure of what to believe, because you want to be not sure of what to believe.

[BritManToo]

Follow the government line or lose your job!

In our modern world no dissent will be tolerated.

[impulse]

From the linked cidrap study:

 

Researchers at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst used Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) guidelines on COVID-19 prevention and treatment to define misinformation. 

 

Help me out here...  Is that the same CDC whose new director is trying real hard to regain the people's trust?  Because, apparently, they betrayed that trust.

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/16/cdc-director-public-trust-00116348

[EVENKEEL]

Glad I didn't vax my young one like the gov was advising. Those darn conspiracy nuts like the ones who dared voice that perhaps covid came from a lab.....oh wait. 

[Bkk Brian]

10 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

"Londonderry-based Dr Mary McCloskey claimed the pandemic was a 'figment' of the media and the Government and that jabs don't work and were killing people.

Well she's got plenty of time off now suspended as a doctor to reflect on her conspiracies. Good riddance to her.

[KC 71]

Derry U.K

Are you high ?

[Red Phoenix]

6 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

She's on the right side of history.

Yes, she is a brave doctor by publicly stating that the Emperor has no clothes.

 

[Bagwain]

30,000 excess deaths in Australia. Couldn't possibly be what the Gov and the TGA are pushing?

[BKKBike09]

11 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

They noted that about a third of the more than 1.1 million reported COVID-19 deaths in the United States as of January 18, 2023, were considered preventable if public health recommendations such as vaccination and physical distancing had been followed."

Not to be sniffed at, eh.

 

Trouble is, people have free will and don't always do what they're told. Seems a bit of a stretch to blame 52 doctors for all these 'preventable' deaths. And since there are more than a million doctors in the US, sounds like most of them didn't go over to 'the dark side'.

 

Maybe time to start blaming doctors for not getting more people to quit smoking, since these are all 'preventable' deaths.

 

Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure.

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fast_facts/diseases-and-death.html#:~:text=Cigarette smoking is responsible for,resulting from secondhand smoke exposure.

[impulse]

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Well she's got plenty of time off now suspended as a doctor to reflect on her conspiracies. Good riddance to her.

 

I don't guess you think her patients should have any say in the whether they want to be treated by her, even preferentially in some cases?  Especially with the NHS so flush with surplus doctors that there's no waiting time to see one...

 

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

I don't guess you think her patients should have any say in the whether they want to be treated by her, even preferentially in some cases?  Especially with the NHS so flush with surplus doctors that there's no waiting time to see one...

 

What patients, she's suspended from practice. Her ex patients can breath a sigh of relief

[BenStark]

14 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

They noted that about a third of the more than 1.1 million reported COVID-19 deaths in the United States as of January 18, 2023, were considered preventable if public health recommendations such as vaccination and physical distancing had been followed."

 

Does this mean that two third died anyway, although they had followed health recommendations such as vaccination and physical distancing?

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

4 minutes ago, BenStark said:

 

Does this mean that two third died anyway, although they had followed health recommendations such as vaccination and physical distancing?

 

No, that's not what that means. Because, for starters, a sizeable portion of the 1.1 million U.S. COVID deaths occurred during 2020 before COVID vaccines became widely available in 2021...

 

"The final, official tally of COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. for 2020 was 350,831."

 

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/podcasts/2022/20220107/20220107.htm

 

And then after that, sizeable portions of the U.S. public both a] either didn't complete primary vaccinations at all (30%), and didn't get the subsequent booster shots needed to combat subsequent COVID variants (83%),  and b] sizeable portions of the U.S. public resisted/ignored common-sense, recommended protective measures like face masking and social distancing.

 

So the bottom line is, lots of Americans never did fully follow the various measures aimed at protecting them from COVID that,  while not providing any 100% guarantees, certainly helped substantially reduce the COVID risk for those who did follow them.

 

 

 

 

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations_vacc-people-booster-percent-pop5

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Research studies have estimated that had 100% of American adults been fully vaccinated, the COVID death toll just between January 2021 and April 2022 could have been cut in half, and nearly 319,000 lives saved just during that period alone.

 

 

And among those who still would have died, a lot of those would have been because you can't suddenly vaccinate a country of 300+ million people overnight. The vaccine rollout took time to reach the population.

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/05/13/1098071284/this-is-how-many-lives-could-have-been-saved-with-covid-vaccinations-in-each-sta

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

4 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Well she's got plenty of time off now suspended as a doctor to reflect on her conspiracies. Good riddance to her.

 

Of course, the doctor wasn't suspended for anything she did in the way of treatment of her patients, at least according to the news reports.

 

She was suspended for loudly and publicly proclaiming and promoting a bunch of nonsense anti-vax misinformation and COVID conspiracy theories.

 

And according to the news reports, showing absolutely no remorse for the damages she likely caused for people who followed her advice.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

3 hours ago, Bagwain said:

30,000 excess deaths in Australia. Couldn't possibly be what the Gov and the TGA are pushing?

 

Asking such a question referring to Australia's vaccines regulator, instead of coming right out and promoting misinformation, still means you're wrong.

Spike in deaths in Australia from COVID illnesses, not vaccine

"While a recent analysis found that the country saw a higher than expected number of deaths in 2022, it also concluded coronavirus vaccines weren’t the cause. Government officials and experts in Australia concur, saying the rise in deaths is largely the result of COVID-19 infections, not vaccine-related deaths."

 

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-covid-coronavirus-vaccine-australia-125014733236

 

[BritManToo]

14 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Of course, the doctor wasn't suspended for anything she did in the way of treatment of her patients, at least according to the news reports.

 

She was suspended for loudly and publicly proclaiming and promoting a bunch of nonsense anti-vax misinformation and COVID conspiracy theories.

 

And according to the news reports, showing absolutely no remorse for the damages she likely caused for people who followed her advice.

 

i thought she was speaking out against vaccinating healthy children and young people against COVID.

Not sure many, if any of them, would have died from COVID.

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

i thought she was speaking out against vaccinating healthy children and young people against COVID.

Not sure many, if any of them, would have died from COVID.

She was doing more than that, she also claimed the pandemic was a 'figment' of the media and the Government and that jabs don't work and were killing people.

 

 

[Red Phoenix]

35 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Research studies have estimated that had 100% of American adults been fully vaccinated, the COVID death toll just between January 2021 and April 2022 could have been cut in half, and nearly 319,000 lives saved just during that period alone.

 

 

And among those who still would have died, a lot of those would have been because you can't suddenly vaccinate a country of 300+ million people overnight. The vaccine rollout took time to reach the population.

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/05/13/1098071284/this-is-how-many-lives-could-have-been-saved-with-covid-vaccinations-in-each-sta

 

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A study that would make prof Neil Ferguson proud. 

ALL Ferguson's pandemic projections turned out to be 10 to 1000 times off-the-mark, but they didn't miss their intended fear-mongering target.

The 'researchers' of the current vax-propaganda study were smarter than Ferguson as the 381.981 US-deaths they claim that were 'preventable' can not be checked. 

Comparing covid-19 death statistics with countries that were significantly less vaccinated or with communities within the US that did not vaccinate (e.g. the Amish) would provide a much more relevant study than this modelling exercise. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

1. The study I cited on preventable COVID deaths in the U.S. was done by a respected Ivy League U.S. university, and had absolutely nothing to do with the Neil Ferguson UK researcher you cite.

 

2. As to the actual findings, other separate, prior U.S. research has made similar findings. But if you think the Brown University research is not credible, feel free to try to find any credible science or fact check site that says their methods and research were wrong.

 

"The national number of vaccine-preventable COVID deaths calculated by Brown and Microsoft exceeds an earlier analysis from the Kaiser Family Foundation, which put that number at 234,000. Cynthia Cox, director of the Peterson-Kaiser Health System Tracker and a co-author of that analysis, tells NPR that differences in methodology may explain the discrepancy.

 

Unlike the KFF analysis, the new analysis included data on how many Americans were boosted — so the vaccine-preventable death total includes people who never got vaccinated, along with those whose vaccine protection had waned and who had not received a booster."

 

In other words, a likely more accurate projection than the earlier KFF one. But still delivering the same basic message and conclusions.

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/05/13/1098071284/this-is-how-many-lives-could-have-been-saved-with-covid-vaccinations-in-each-sta

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Physicians linked to COVID-19 misinformation rarely disciplined

Wednesday, July 26th, 2023

 

"Physicians who provided medical misinformation that affected patient's care throughout the COVID-19 pandemic have seen few consequences, The Washington Post found.

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The Post analyzed disciplinary records from medical boards in all 50 states. At least 20 doctors nationally were disciplined for complaints of COVID-19 misinformation between January 2020 and June 2023. Five of those physicians lost their medical licenses, with one revoked and four surrendered."

 

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/hospital-physician-relationships/physicians-linked-to-covid-19-misinformation-rarely-disciplined.html

 

[Amethyst]

A series of off-topic diversion posts have been removed for contravening the forum's Community Standards.

 

The topic of the thread here is doctors being disciplined for promoting COVID misinformation -- not COVID death counts in Australia.

 

[owl sees all]

Same all over unfortunately.

 

Doctors who speak out risk everything.