cheeryble Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 I think I’m going to go full synthetic in future, and also change oil and filter at least every 8000 km. In fact, would prefer even shorter intervals. It seems not difficult to get many hundred thousand kilometers out of a decent engine with this simple change. question is, can the extra cost be ameliorated? I had a quick look at Lazada offerings, and some of the synthetics seem very cheap indeed, even for name brands, compared to others. can anyone who’s been through the same search and decision process recommend particular products? any other intelligent tips would be welcome. Here are our cars: Toyota Sienta 2019 approx 40k km. FSH. Honda Jazz 2006 iDSL 228k km. Honda CRV 2003 speedo believed changed but may be ca. 80k km. Serviced by Honda. all three cars have no smoke, no leaks, no noises. the Jazz had only water instead of coolant when I bought it, now coolant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gargamon Posted December 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2023 Recently sold my 1989 Toyota pickup which I purchased new in 1988. 350k km and still going strong. Never did one dealer routine service. Changed the oil myself, about every 10k km with regular non-synthetic oil. Did the scheduled services like timing belt, etc as per owner's manual. Forget the synthetic. The choice of the vehicle is much more important. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted December 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2023 I think synthetic oil is good if you're not planning on changing it more than every 10,000 km. In my opinion normal high quality oil like a Castrol, changed every 5,000 km is probably the better way to go. For motorbikes, every 3,000 km. Keep your oil as clean as possible. It does make a big difference and costs little. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan747 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 I've been using Valvoline Maxlife 10w-40 for my Toyota truck for the last 5 years with oil changes every year and a 1042 BOSCH Filter that I buy off of Lazada-Happy travels and Good Luck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gargamon Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 31 minutes ago, Dan747 said: I've been using Valvoline Maxlife 10w-40 for my Toyota truck for the last 5 years with oil changes every year and a 1042 BOSCH Filter that I buy off of Lazada-Happy travels and Good Luck. 10w-40 here? Better 20w-50. Not worried about it starting in the cold weather are you? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) Be careful putting a fully Synthetic enging oil into the two older cars ... good chance that it will cause the crankshaft oil seals to start leaking.. I wouldnt recommend anyhing other than Mobile 1 for the newer car. Yes,and as said above use a quality oi filter. Edited December 3, 2023 by JAS21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novacova Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 AmsOil, 10000km and change the oil filter every 5000km no problem as long as you have a tight engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 The three types of engine oil are mineral oil with EP additives, half synthetic, and full synthetic. The mineral oil is the least expensive, full synthetic most expensive. Mineral oil/ EP should be good for up to 10,000 km. Full synthetic, 20 - 30,000 km. My elderly Vios gets a 50% synthetic which is changed out every 5000 km. My mechanic swears the car will outlast me, and he is probably right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeall Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 21 hours ago, cheeryble said: I think I’m going to go full synthetic in future, and also change oil and filter at least every 8000 km. In fact, would prefer even shorter intervals. It seems not difficult to get many hundred thousand kilometers out of a decent engine with this simple change. question is, can the extra cost be ameliorated? I had a quick look at Lazada offerings, and some of the synthetics seem very cheap indeed, even for name brands, compared to others. can anyone who’s been through the same search and decision process recommend particular products? any other intelligent tips would be welcome. Here are our cars: Toyota Sienta 2019 approx 40k km. FSH. Honda Jazz 2006 iDSL 228k km. Honda CRV 2003 speedo believed changed but may be ca. 80k km. Serviced by Honda. all three cars have no smoke, no leaks, no noises. the Jazz had only water instead of coolant when I bought it, now coolant. Do your reasearch, from my understanding is that you cant go off synthetic as then the changes to your engine is DONE I furiously pointed this fact out to Toxxxxxa when they put in partial synthetic not taking notice of total service history Full synthetic and despite pointing this fact out to them they cannot understand whats the problem. This seems normal for the dealershiups in LOS. Just endless mistakes, and poor training, they get away with it with their free cofee and waiting rooms whist your car gets neglected. Its the oppistote of most countries, I am sure the Jpy makers would cringe knowing the practices their LOS service centers are doing. Solution? go to your local guys that have vast experience with your type, I have seen many amazing mechanics.. yes yes no fancy receipt that will impress your farang buyer... as they are clueless as well..... The price to pay for living here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFishman1 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 I’ve been using full synthetic oil for the last five years on my little four-cylinder engine and I’ve never had any problems. I’m now also using full synthetic oil at my motorcycle. Got a lot more miles using full synthetic and I check it often and it still looks very very clean, TIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stix40 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Shell Helix Way to go Like carlsberg Probably the best oil in the world ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 I would continue using whatever you have been using. If you have been using mineral oil, stick with it. I would also use whichever viscosity is recommended by the manufacturer, and I would pick a name brand and stick with it. I was a Castrol guy, but 25 years in a company car, I quit doing it myself. If you're buying on Lazada, buy from a reputable dealer. B-Quik has a Lazada store where you pick the oil and buy the service online and get a coupon you can use at your local shop. Saving money on oil is like saving money on paint. When you compare the cost of oil to the cost of the vehicle, and the time and effort involved, cheaping out makes little sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeryble Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 On 12/3/2023 at 5:23 PM, JAS21 said: Be careful putting a fully Synthetic enging oil into the two older cars ... good chance that it will cause the crankshaft oil seals to start leaking.. I wouldnt recommend anyhing other than Mobile 1 for the newer car. Yes,and as said above use a quality oi filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeryble Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 What are you suggesting happens with the oil seals? New line by the way thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 On 12/3/2023 at 5:22 PM, gargamon said: 10w-40 here? Better 20w-50. Not worried about it starting in the cold weather are you? lol @ cold weather starting ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobexpat Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 5w40 fully synthetic in my audi TT. Oil changed every 2,000 miles! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soi3eddie Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Fully synthetic oil of the vehicle manufacturer's viscosity would be my choice. Change as per recommended service interval and your engine will last the longest. Mobil 1 is worth the small extra cost in my opinion for the peace of mind knowing that you've got the best, or as good as. I have Mercedes V-Class 250 Diesel in the UK with the computerised service schedule and it usually recommends oil change at 24,000 Miles (38,00kms). I did this on my previous vehicle and engine was still going great at 278,000 Miles (447,000KMs) with no smoke, oil consumption or turbo issues. Only thing changed was fuel injectors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeall Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 12:01 PM, noobexpat said: 5w40 fully synthetic in my audi TT. Oil changed every 2,000 miles! 5w, so you are ready for the cold snaps comming.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Just now, Seeall said: 5w, so you are ready for the cold snaps comming.... Which country are you in ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 23 minutes ago, Seeall said: 5w, so you are ready for the cold snaps comming.... Was that a flippant comment ..or just one completely lacking knolwedge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeryble Posted December 24, 2023 Author Share Posted December 24, 2023 On 12/3/2023 at 5:23 PM, JAS21 said: Be careful putting a fully Synthetic enging oil into the two older cars ... good chance that it will cause the crankshaft oil seals to start leaking.. I wouldnt recommend anyhing other than Mobile 1 for the newer car. Yes,and as said above use a quality oi filter. oil seals might leak eh? what’s the rationale behind that Jas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novacova Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 On 12/3/2023 at 2:50 PM, cheeryble said: I think I’m going to go full synthetic in future, and also change oil and filter at least every 8000 km. In fact, would prefer even shorter intervals. “Amsoil 5W30 Signature Series, produced 134,352 psi, and is ranked 2nd for oils “just as they come, right out of the bottle” (only Amsoil 0W20 Signature Series, was able to slightly beat it), out of 233 oils tested so far.” https://540ratblog.wordpress.com/ All the information you’ll want about motor oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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