Biden ‘not sure he’d be running’ in 2024 if Trump wasn’t: ‘We cannot let him win’

[nauseus]

16 hours ago, Tug said:

Is the now sober hunter Biden making policy decisions?no he’s not it’s unfortunate he he got involved in drugs now he’s sober.he paid his back taxes he dident harm nor threaten anyone with a gun,he’s merely a vehicle to attack an elderly successful president.no I know that doesent fit your narrative but the fact remains inflation down,Putin in check nato revitalized many domestic Issues being delt with in a positive manner to me as an American citizen many of the posts here reek of desperation they just seem beside themselves trying to lash out as America and this administration.meanwhile president Biden and his TEAM keep their heads down and do the things nessary to get the country on track yes even the unpopular things (interest rates) rule of law ect we are now starting to reap the rewards of such solid moral and wise guidance.yes we all would like a younger more dynamic president but that cannot take away the solid facts of this administration’s accomplishments.old Joe is one magnificent old duffer !!

 

Biden and his TEAM keep their heads down due to the shameful way they are ruining their country.

[candide]

6 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Biden and his TEAM keep their heads down due to the shameful way they are ruining their country.

Why would they be shameful?

- best GDP growth (by far) among G7 compared to pre-pandemic level,

- very low unemployment (close to historic record),

- now lower inflation rate than other advanced economies,

- highest level of energy independence in over 70 years, thanks to record oil and energy exports, 

- increase in industrial strategic sovereignty,

- etc...

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, candide said:

Why would they be shameful?

- best GDP growth (by far) among G7 compared to pre-pandemic level,

- very low unemployment (close to historic record),

- now lower inflation rate than other advanced economies,

- highest level of energy independence in over 70 years, thanks to record oil and energy exports, 

- increase in industrial strategic sovereignty,

- etc...

 

- best GDP growth (by 0.1%) is not "far".

 

- very low unemployment (close to historic record). Historical records are meaningless as US unemployment is calculated so differently now. Many of these jobs are taken by the same person twice or more

 

- now lower inflation rate than other advanced economies - not so - Japan is lower.

 

- highest level of energy independence in over 70 years - not really - the US still needs to import oil by about 5 mmbd.

 

- increase in industrial strategic sovereignty - whatever that means.

[pomchop]

6 hours ago, illisdean said:

You are triggered! LOL...your beloved Biden failing for all to see. Such a stain on US politics, the Biden legacy. With the crack head son facing fed incarceration, old Joe is gonna feel Mega MAGA hurt in the polls, right up until he drops out. You must be one of very few thats proud of Biden and his failures.

drinking so much cult kool aide is really not good for your health but go ahead and gulp it down...and be sure and send donnie some money ...he loves to con people and will really appreciate contributions even though he is so very very very rich....

[pomchop]

4 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

Biden and his TEAM keep their heads down due to the shameful way they are ruining their country.

sure much better to try and foment a coup rile up a bunch of brain dead rednecks praise dictators and con millions out of their money....that trump is sure a great role model

[candide]

16 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

- best GDP growth (by 0.1%) is not "far".

 

- very low unemployment (close to historic record). Historical records are meaningless as US unemployment is calculated so differently now. Many of these jobs are taken by the same person twice or more

 

- now lower inflation rate than other advanced economies - not so - Japan is lower.

 

- highest level of energy independence in over 70 years - not really - the US still needs to import oil by about 5 mmbd.

 

- increase in industrial strategic sovereignty - whatever that means.

 

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02784/

 

- best GDP growth (by 0.1%) is not "far".

By far compared to pre-pandemic level (see graph)

- very low unemployment (close to historic record). Historical records are meaningless as US unemployment is calculated so differently now. Many of these jobs are taken by the same person twice or more

In any case it is a low unemployment rate, and lower than forecasted by experts

- now lower inflation rate than other advanced economies - not so - Japan is lower.

Ok, but lower than the average of advanced economies

- highest level of energy independence in over 70 years not really - the US still needs to import oil by about 5 mmbd.

Highest level by the same criteria used by Trump to brag about achieving energy independence (difference between imports and exports)

 

So nothing to be ashamed of. Many countries would be happy with the same numbers

 

[bignok]

Anyone under 70 in the US?

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2 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

- best GDP growth (by 0.1%) is not "far".

 

- very low unemployment (close to historic record). Historical records are meaningless as US unemployment is calculated so differently now. Many of these jobs are taken by the same person twice or more

 

- now lower inflation rate than other advanced economies - not so - Japan is lower.

 

- highest level of energy independence in over 70 years - not really - the US still needs to import oil by about 5 mmbd.

 

- increase in industrial strategic sovereignty - whatever that means.

 

You're right. 0.1% is not "far". But 3.2% is.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02784/

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2 hours ago, nauseus said:

- very low unemployment (close to historic record). Historical records are meaningless as US unemployment is calculated so differently now. Many of these jobs are taken by the same person twice or more

More nonsense from you and Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez of all people

'When the BLS determines the unemployment rate, a person is counted as employed as long as they have at least one job. They don’t get counted twice if they have two jobs. So Ocasio-Cortez is wrong in saying multiple job holding and long hours affect the unemployment rate.'

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/jul/18/alexandria-ocasio-cortez/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-wrong-several-counts-abou/

The article goes on to note that the number of people working multiple jobs has actually decliined over the years.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/jul/18/alexandria-ocasio-cortez/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-wrong-several-counts-abou/

 

 

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2 hours ago, nauseus said:

- highest level of energy independence in over 70 years - not really - the US still needs to import oil by about 5 mmbd.

 

"In 2022, the United States imported about 8.33 million barrels per day (b/d) of petroleum from 80 countries. Petroleum includes crude oil, hydrocarbon gas liquids (HGLs), refined petroleum products such as gasoline and diesel fuel, and biofuels. Crude oil imports of about 6.28 million b/d accounted for about 75% of U.S. total gross petroleum imports.

In 2022, the United States exported about 9.52 million b/d of petroleum to 180 countries and 4 U.S. territories."

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=727&t=6

 

US exports have reached all time record levels in 2023.

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2 hours ago, nauseus said:

- increase in industrial strategic sovereignty - whatever that means.

It means bringing manufacturing back to the USA.

The plan to bring manufacturing back to the US is working
US spending on factory construction has more than doubled since the IRA and CHIPS Act passed

https://qz.com/the-plan-to-bring-manufacturing-back-to-the-us-is-worki-1850514115

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2 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

- best GDP growth (by 0.1%) is not "far".

 

- very low unemployment (close to historic record). Historical records are meaningless as US unemployment is calculated so differently now. Many of these jobs are taken by the same person twice or more

 

- now lower inflation rate than other advanced economies - not so - Japan is lower.

 

- highest level of energy independence in over 70 years - not really - the US still needs to import oil by about 5 mmbd.

 

- increase in industrial strategic sovereignty - whatever that means.

I forgot to congratulate you on your remarkable ability to create fiction. You only failed once on the Japan thing. 80% is very impressive.

[thaibeachlovers]

16 hours ago, Caldera said:

How nice would it be if those old goats BOTH decided that enough is enough, dropped out of the race and let the next generation take over.

 

They're that far above retirement age that it's just ridiculous at this point.

I doubt anyone would disagree with you on that, but the problem is finding anyone better to take their place. Plenty out there, but US politics is so toxic now that no sensible person wants a bar of it, IMO. Anyone want HRC or Cheney instead?

[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

Biden and his TEAM keep their heads down due to the shameful way they are ruining their country.

I thought they tried to keep Biden away from public view as much as possible as he makes too many gaffes. It's not like he's wildly successful- chaos on the southern border, Russia nowhere near defeated in Ukraine, apparently becoming unpopular with younger Americans for supplying bombs for israel to kill children with.

He needs to do better if he wants to win.

[Skipalongcassidy]

It's amazes me that many of you hate one man so much that you continue to support a regime that is destroying the very country that you live in... they continue to mislead you with their reports... 

 "It is well documented that nearly 72% of job gains since 2021 are simply jobs recovered that were lost during the pandemic, not created."

As a source, the note shared a U.S. House Budget Committee press release from June saying how job growth under Biden has been "recovery" as opposed to "creation." 

"Nearly 72 percent of all job gains since 2021 were simply jobs that were being recovered from the pandemic, not new job creation," according to the release. "In fact, when looking at today’s economy compared to pre-pandemic levels, employment is up only by 3.7 million."

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2 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

It's amazes me that many of you hate one man so much that you continue to support a regime that is destroying the very country that you live in... they continue to mislead you with their reports... 

 "It is well documented that nearly 72% of job gains since 2021 are simply jobs recovered that were lost during the pandemic, not created."

As a source, the note shared a U.S. House Budget Committee press release from June saying how job growth under Biden has been "recovery" as opposed to "creation." 

"Nearly 72 percent of all job gains since 2021 were simply jobs that were being recovered from the pandemic, not new job creation," according to the release. "In fact, when looking at today’s economy compared to pre-pandemic levels, employment is up only by 3.7 million."

What don't you understand about the fact that unemployment is at an extremely  low level?

Economy adds 199,000 jobs in November and unemployment rate falls: ‘We’ll be exiting 2023 without a recession’

U.S. employers added a solid 199,000 jobs in November while the unemployment rate fell, signaling a robust labor market that appears set to achieve the elusive “soft landing” of cooling pandemic-era inflation while avoiding a recession.

Friday’s report from the Labor Department showed that the unemployment rate dropped from 3.9% to 3.7%, not far above a five-decade low of 3.4% in April.

https://fortune.com/2023/12/08/job-report-november-199000-hiringnovember-unemployment-rate-soft-landing/

[illisdean]

18 hours ago, candide said:

Why would they be shameful?

- best GDP growth (by far) among G7 compared to pre-pandemic level,

- very low unemployment (close to historic record),

- now lower inflation rate than other advanced economies,

- highest level of energy independence in over 70 years, thanks to record oil and energy exports, 

- increase in industrial strategic sovereignty,

- etc...

A couple of wars, out of control border security catastrophe.  100,00 plus fentanyl deaths and what has Bien done about it and why he NEVER resolved China's precursor role when he met with Xi! The Afghan debacle will go down in history as one Biden's greatest achievements FOR THE TALIBAN**.

 

**Afghanistan: "20 years, trillions of dollars, four presidents..." to replace the taliban with the taliban..."

 

Ask yourself if it was wise to gift $7B in military equipment to the Taliban during Biden's disastrous Afghan withdrawal. How about epowering Iran and hamas with payments to a known terrorist organization. Did Biden rescind the terrorist designatiion against the Houthi's in Yemen? Biden can brag all he likes about the failed "Bidenomics" message Americans are laughing at now but his foreign policy is a freakin mess of a magnitude never seen in America.  Biden's performance is reflected in the recent polls in which he is under water on most metrics, and is a true indication of his abysmal job performance as judged by the voters. Prove me wrong.

 

How about Biden's belief that appeasing and empowering Iran is somehow going to be a success for America and the world.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/time-to-stop-appeasing-terrorist-iran

https://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-hamas-oil-sanctions-biden-administration-israel-gaza-adbace0b

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, illisdean said:

A couple of wars, out of control border security catastrophe.  100,00 plus fentanyl deaths and what has Bien done about it and why he NEVER resolved China's precursor role when he met with Xi! The Afghan debacle will go down in history as one Biden's greatest achievements FOR THE TALIBAN**.

 

**Afghanistan: "20 years, trillions of dollars, four presidents..." to replace the taliban with the taliban..."

 

Ask yourself if it was wise to gift $7B in military equipment to the Taliban during Biden's disastrous Afghan withdrawal. How about epowering Iran and hamas with payments to a known terrorist organization. Did Biden rescind the terrorist designatiion against the Houthi's in Yemen? Biden can brag all he likes about the failed "Bidenomics" message Americans are laughing at now but his foreign policy is a freakin mess of a magnitude never seen in America. Prove me wrong.

 

How about Biden's belief that appeasing and empowering Iran is somehow going to be a success for America and the world.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/time-to-stop-appeasing-terrorist-iran

https://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-hamas-oil-sanctions-biden-administration-israel-gaza-adbace0b

 

 

 

It was Trump who precipitated the withdrawal from Afghanistan. He pulled out 60% of the troops right away after the agreement with the Taliban was reached. And agreed to have all Talibani POWs release. And his administration signed a deal with the Taliban to pull out the rest of the US troops. Even when the Taliban repeatedly violated the agreement, the Trump administration did nothing.

[illisdean]

Just now, placeholder said:

It was Trump who precipitated the withdrawal from Afghanistan. He pulled out 60% of the troops right away after the agreement with the Taliban was reached. And agreed to have all Talibani POWs release. And his administration signed a deal with the Taliban to pull out the rest of the US troops. Even when the Taliban repeatedly violated the agreement, the Trump administration did nothing.

Biden pulled the trigger, you fool no one. Face it Biden is a total failure and he's the one who messed it all up in Afghan. Just like the 7 or 800K covid deaths he was responsible for, almost twice that of Trump and Biden had the vaccination. But if Trump's Afghan plan was so flawed and problematic why didn't Biden uses what little brain he has remaining to fix it right instead of murdering a (with a missile strike) family going on a picnic and not to mention the 13 service members blow to bits because he refused to use bagram airbase. He's a loser, a failure and it shows in everything he does. America knows this and he's on his last leg. 

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5 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Biden pulled the trigger, you fool no one. Face it Biden is a total failure and he's the one who messed it all up in Afghan. Just like the 7 or 800K covid deaths he was responsible for, almost twice that of Trump and Biden had the vaccination. But if Trump's Afghan plan was so flawed and problematic why didn't Biden uses what little brain he has remaining to fix it right instead of murdering a (with a missile strike) family going on a picnic and not to mention the 13 service members blow to bits because he refused to use bagram airbase. He's a loser, a failure and it shows in everything he does. America knows this and he's on his last leg. 

If you're going to play stupid statistical games with covid, then the first death from covid was on feb 28, 2020. The total number of deaths until Biden's inauguration was 424,401.

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-have-more-americans-died-covid-under-joe-biden-donald-trump-1661528

Currently the total death toll from covid is 1,188,661.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Which means that under biden so far the total is 764,220

Since the advent of the covid pandemic Trump was in office 327 days. So far Biden has been in office 1075 days. So, on a daily basis the number of covid deaths under Trump is 1298 and under Biden 711.

 

As for Afghanistan, what don't you understand that it was Trump who wanted out and got a withdrawal agreement with a specific deadline signed to that end. It was Trump who pulled out 60% of US forces and ceded everything but the cities to the Taliban. It was Trump who agreed to release all Talibani POWs. It was Trump who did nothing when the Taliban repeatedly violated the ceasefire agreeement.

Next thing you know you'll be denouncing the Biden administration for the importation of heavy crude into the USA. Oh wait, you already did that. But at least you acknowledged the ridiculousness of that claim...oh wait... you didn't.

 

[Tug]

14 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Biden pulled the trigger, you fool no one. Face it Biden is a total failure and he's the one who messed it all up in Afghan. Just like the 7 or 800K covid deaths he was responsible for, almost twice that of Trump and Biden had the vaccination. But if Trump's Afghan plan was so flawed and problematic why didn't Biden uses what little brain he has remaining to fix it right instead of murdering a (with a missile strike) family going on a picnic and not to mention the 13 service members blow to bits because he refused to use bagram airbase. He's a loser, a failure and it shows in everything he does. America knows this and he's on his last leg. 

Are you rational ?after a virus is out of control in the populace the horse is out of the barn so to speak.trump surrendered Afghanistan before Biden took office released all the talaban and did his level best to poison the well.the afghan withdrawal was a total fiasco no doubt about it it had a lot of help to make it so.you might ask one Mr Putin about how much of a failure joe Biden is or perhaps you could ask the nato members??hummm??

[candide]

3 hours ago, illisdean said:

A couple of wars, out of control border security catastrophe.  100,00 plus fentanyl deaths and what has Bien done about it and why he NEVER resolved China's precursor role when he met with Xi! The Afghan debacle will go down in history as one Biden's greatest achievements FOR THE TALIBAN**.

 

**Afghanistan: "20 years, trillions of dollars, four presidents..." to replace the taliban with the taliban..."

 

Ask yourself if it was wise to gift $7B in military equipment to the Taliban during Biden's disastrous Afghan withdrawal. How about epowering Iran and hamas with payments to a known terrorist organization. Did Biden rescind the terrorist designatiion against the Houthi's in Yemen? Biden can brag all he likes about the failed "Bidenomics" message Americans are laughing at now but his foreign policy is a freakin mess of a magnitude never seen in America.  Biden's performance is reflected in the recent polls in which he is under water on most metrics, and is a true indication of his abysmal job performance as judged by the voters. Prove me wrong.

 

How about Biden's belief that appeasing and empowering Iran is somehow going to be a success for America and the world.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/time-to-stop-appeasing-terrorist-iran

https://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-hamas-oil-sanctions-biden-administration-israel-gaza-adbace0b

 

 

 

It's nice to see that you don't contest the economic performance indicators I outlined in my post, and now have to deflect with the usual lame arguments.

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6 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

It's amazes me that many of you hate one man so much that you continue to support a regime that is destroying the very country that you live in... they continue to mislead you with their reports... 

 "It is well documented that nearly 72% of job gains since 2021 are simply jobs recovered that were lost during the pandemic, not created."

As a source, the note shared a U.S. House Budget Committee press release from June saying how job growth under Biden has been "recovery" as opposed to "creation." 

"Nearly 72 percent of all job gains since 2021 were simply jobs that were being recovered from the pandemic, not new job creation," according to the release. "In fact, when looking at today’s economy compared to pre-pandemic levels, employment is up only by 3.7 million."

Fox Anchor, Through Gritted Teeth, Admits Biden’s Economy “Is a Lot Stronger Than Anybody Understands”

Responding to the jobs report Friday morning, Fox’s Maria Bartiromo told viewers, in moment that seemed to pain her: “Overall, you’ve got to look at this report as a big positive. We’ve got more jobs created than expected.” Turning to panelist Joseph Lavorgna, the former chief economist of the National Economic Council under Trump, she remarked, “Joe Lavorgna, you’ve been saying this for a long time, saying that the economy is a lot stronger than anybody understands.” He responded: “The numbers are good numbers, no question. 

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/fox-anchor-biden-economy-stronger-than-anybody-understands

[Fat is a type of crazy]

You can throw all the statistics out you like saying Biden is doing a good job, and you'll likely be correct, but I think people will see an elderly man who is past his prime in some ways, and look for alternatives. If it's Trump Biden may still win despite the polls. If any one else it looks bad. 

[illisdean]

5 hours ago, placeholder said:

Which means that under biden so far the total is 764,220

Since the advent of the covid pandemic Trump was in office 327 days. So far Biden has been in office 1075 days. So, on a daily basis the number of covid deaths under Trump is 1298 and under Biden 711.

The pandemic was officially ended 11-MAY-2023, on or about Biden's 842nd day in office which equates to 714,222 deaths or 848 /day DESPITE having vaccines and boosters touted at up to ~90% VE, don't believe anyone received a vaccine prior to the 2020 election during Trumps reign. Trump was responsible under OP Warp Speed program to fast TRACK vax development.

 

[illisdean]

6 hours ago, placeholder said:

As for Afghanistan, what don't you understand that it was Trump who wanted out and got a withdrawal agreement with a specific deadline signed to that end. It was Trump who pulled out 60% of US forces and ceded everything but the cities to the Taliban. It was Trump who agreed to release all Talibani POWs. It was Trump who did nothing when the Taliban repeatedly violated the ceasefire agreeement.

Next thing you know you'll be denouncing the Biden administration for the importation of heavy crude into the USA. Oh wait, you already did that. But at least you acknowledged the ridiculousness of that claim...oh wait... you didn't.

Biden wanted out of Afghanistan, at least thats what he intimated in an April 2021 briefing.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2021/04/14/remarks-by-president-biden-on-the-way-forward-in-afghanistan/

 

 

He had agency to change what he didn't like about the Trump arranged Doha Accord but Biden did not. There was a clause to cancel the Accord if either party violated it's terms but Biden did not exercise it. He forged ahead with the Accord, changing it;s date twice and then in typical Biden dumpster fire execution. he BOTCHED it and then attempted to Blame Trump to appease people like you.

 

 

 

"After taking office, Biden undertook a superficial review of our Afghanistan policy—one that totally ignored the advice of his top military advisor and his commanders on the ground. On April 14, 2021, he reversed the Trump administration’s conditions-based drawdown policy and announced that all U.S. forces would be withdrawn from Afghanistan by Sept. 11 of that year, whether or not the Taliban had met its commitments under the 2020 agreement."

 

“Almost everyone who paid any attention to Afghanistan saw it coming—everyone, that is, except Biden and his insular circle of advisors.”

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/08/15/afghanistan-withdrawal-pullout-military-taliban-chaos-evacuation-biden-inhofe/

 

 

[illisdean]

6 hours ago, placeholder said:

s for Afghanistan, what don't you understand that it was Trump who wanted out and got a withdrawal agreement with a specific deadline signed to that end. It was Trump who pulled out 60% of US forces and ceded everything but the cities to the Taliban

 

 

Trump AND Biden wanted out of Afghanistan, but Biden was in typical fashion messed it up as per his standard MO.

 

"The failure lies not in the decision to exit Afghanistan but in the way the U.S. went about leaving. Indeed, the decision to leave—made initially by Trump and ratified by Biden—remains strategically sound. But as the tragic events of the past week have shown, making the right decision is one thing, carrying it out well is an entirely different story."

 

1. The only alternative to withdrawal, committing more troops and money, had no political buy-in
2. Politically, Biden owns the crisis. Denying there was a failure at all, as he did on August 18, makes him look weak and out of touch. This is evidenced by the steep drop in his approval rating. However, if the U.S. manages to evacuate all Americans safely, this debacle shouldn’t weigh heavily on the president’s agenda moving forward. Tragic as it may be, insofar as the victims continue to be largely Afghan, any violence is unlikely to drastically shift U.S. opinion about a war that has long since faded from the public interest.
3. Having said that, the (proverbial) day isn’t over yet. There are still up to 15,000 U.S. citizens in Afghanistan, plus about 7,000 troops sent in to evacuate them. Until these Americans are out safely, Biden will remain vulnerable. If more chaos ensues and there’s an Iran-like hostage situation or American casualties, it could critically damage his presidency. This looks low risk, but entirely plausible.

 

https://time.com/6091745/bidens-decision-to-exit-afghanistan/

 

[nauseus]

22 hours ago, candide said:

 

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02784/

 

- best GDP growth (by 0.1%) is not "far".

By far compared to pre-pandemic level (see graph)

- very low unemployment (close to historic record). Historical records are meaningless as US unemployment is calculated so differently now. Many of these jobs are taken by the same person twice or more

In any case it is a low unemployment rate, and lower than forecasted by experts

- now lower inflation rate than other advanced economies - not so - Japan is lower.

Ok, but lower than the average of advanced economies

- highest level of energy independence in over 70 years not really - the US still needs to import oil by about 5 mmbd.

Highest level by the same criteria used by Trump to brag about achieving energy independence (difference between imports and exports)

 

So nothing to be ashamed of. Many countries would be happy with the same numbers

 

 

GDP Change over four years is not the same as GDP now. Go away.  

[candide]

7 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

GDP Change over four years is not the same as GDP now. Go away.  

That was my claim from the start, which you conveniently edited in your quote. Obviously, economists find it relevant to take into account how G7 performed compared to pre-pandemic level, as the link I posted shows.

Go away!

[nauseus]

20 hours ago, placeholder said:

More nonsense from you and Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez of all people

'When the BLS determines the unemployment rate, a person is counted as employed as long as they have at least one job. They don’t get counted twice if they have two jobs. So Ocasio-Cortez is wrong in saying multiple job holding and long hours affect the unemployment rate.'

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/jul/18/alexandria-ocasio-cortez/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-wrong-several-counts-abou/

The article goes on to note that the number of people working multiple jobs has actually decliined over the years.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/jul/18/alexandria-ocasio-cortez/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-wrong-several-counts-abou/

 

 

 

Nonsense from Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez makes sense but..... when the BLS determines the unemployment rate it is essentially by polling. The results are often adjusted within the next month and the last 3 months were all adjusted back up again.  The official record of people working multiple jobs declining over recent years is probably due to the unofficial (illegal) employment of migrants.