Biden ‘not sure he’d be running’ in 2024 if Trump wasn’t: ‘We cannot let him win’

[Irish star]

5 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Yeah, if only those stupid voters would wake up and understand how grateful they should be   /s

 

The most basic and simple question voters think about is this: "Are you better off now than when the President took office"  And the answer is clear. 

Gas was $2.50 under Trump, $3.50 under Biden.

Inflation sub 2% under Trump, 8% under Biden.

Mortgage sub 3% under Trump, over 7% under Biden.

 

Now you can argue those numbers all day, but they are visceral and dominate voters' minds.  

I blame Putin for Fuel prices 

[Hanaguma]

1 hour ago, Wrwest said:

As the Zen Master said, “we’ll see” (tip of the hat to the movie, “Charlie Wilson’s War”. I welcome this showdown. I want to know if I have a country which I can believe in and defend (defend the ideals, certainly not always the actions).

Oh, you will. No need to be so melodramatic. Look at it this way: if it is Biden or Trump, at least neither of them can be re-elected in 4 years.

 

I am not a fan of my country's PM by any means, but that is just politics. The country is still my home and native land. 

[MonteD]

15 hours ago, Tug said:

Naaa it’s those pesky accomplishments that get in your way you know the chips act standing with labor infrastructure ect ect now trump wants to ruin healthcare push women back to the fifty’s destroy our democracy he’s all hot air I don’t think trump will win not by a long shot tho I as most folks would like to see a younger more dynamic candidate but Joe tho old is doing a good job he’s competent and knows the system + he’s a decent human being 

You never disappoint with worthless comments.. I vote for you Tug!

[thaibeachlovers]

17 hours ago, CharlieH said:

“If Trump wasn’t running, I’m not sure I’d be running,” Biden said at a fundraising event for his 2024 campaign outside Boston. “We cannot let him win.”

5555555555555

 

Sooo, Trump is the biggest reason to remain. What a stupid reason. Doesn't Biden know that Trump has 90 something court cases that are "absolutely" going to see him in jail .

 

Perhaps Biden knows that he's never going to be found guilty, to be so fearful of the bad orange man.

[JonnyF]

12 hours ago, Irish star said:

Still Culting for Putin huh 

 

I am not sure what you mean. I have never mentioned Putin. Perhaps you have confused me with someone else, or perhaps you should think before you post and try to come up with something more intelligent.

[JonnyF]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

5555555555555

 

Sooo, Trump is the biggest reason to remain. What a stupid reason. Doesn't Biden know that Trump has 90 something court cases that are "absolutely" going to see him in jail .

 

Perhaps Biden knows that he's never going to be found guilty, to be so fearful of the bad orange man.

 

Exactly. Biden is only staying because of Trump, and many people are only voting for Biden because he isn't Trump. 

 

US politics is near an all time low. The various factions bickering amongst themselves while the country continues to decline. China must be laughing their butts off. 

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Exactly. Biden is only staying because of Trump, and many people are only voting for Biden because he isn't Trump. 

 

US politics is near an all time low. The various factions bickering amongst themselves while the country continues to decline. China must be laughing their butts off. 

Not just China. I can think of a few that must be lovin' it.

[earlinclaifornia]

On 12/6/2023 at 12:41 PM, Hanaguma said:

Yeah, if only those stupid voters would wake up and understand how grateful they should be   /s

 

The most basic and simple question voters think about is this: "Are you better off now than when the President took office"  And the answer is clear. 

Gas was $2.50 under Trump, $3.50 under Biden.

Inflation sub 2% under Trump, 8% under Biden.

Mortgage sub 3% under Trump, over 7% under Biden.

 

Now you can argue those numbers all day, but they are visceral and dominate voters' minds.  

Covid...

[earlinclaifornia]

On 12/6/2023 at 6:30 PM, Irish star said:

I blame Putin for Fuel prices 

He also posted old inflation which now is 3.2 current usa enflation rate - Search (bing.com)

The blame the President shame of the mortgage rate, made me spit out my coffee laughing, 

[illisdean]

"Biden ‘not sure he’d be running’ in 2024 if Trump wasn’t: ‘We cannot let him win’"

 

I suspect Biden is sure now he'll attempt to run in the 2024 election so he can pardon the illustrious and highly successful crack-head Hunter currently under tax indictment in CA.

 

"Hunter Biden, the president’s son, was indicted Thursday in Los Angeles on several federal tax charges, marking the start of a second criminal case that will proceed during his father’s reelection campaign."

 

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-12-07/hunter-biden-indictment-tax-evasion-california-los-angeles

 

[Tug]

48 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

He also posted old inflation which now is 3.2 current usa enflation rate - Search (bing.com)

The blame the President shame of the mortgage rate, made me spit out my coffee laughing, 

Joe Biden and our TEAM have been doing the hard unpopular work of  taming inflation and getting our economy back on track.you know good governance.meanwhile trump publishes cartoons of himself conning the rubs into buying them.as the trump enablers attack his family.vote folks it matters!

[Tug]

4 minutes ago, illisdean said:

"Biden ‘not sure he’d be running’ in 2024 if Trump wasn’t: ‘We cannot let him win’"

 

I suspect Biden is sure now he'll attempt to run in the 2024 election so he can pardon the illustrious and highly successful crack-head Hunter currently under tax indictment in CA.

 

"Hunter Biden, the president’s son, was indicted Thursday in Los Angeles on several federal tax charges, marking the start of a second criminal case that will proceed during his father’s reelection campaign."

 

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-12-07/hunter-biden-indictment-tax-evasion-california-los-angeles

 

Sometimes I wish the Biden’s would fight fire with fire,I’d love to see all the details of jarrod and ivanka getting that 2 billion just a tad curious as to what was exchanged to butter up that particular conn bet daddy trump is a bit miffed 2 billion is a pretty good lick hummm…?

[earlinclaifornia]

4 minutes ago, illisdean said:

"Biden ‘not sure he’d be running’ in 2024 if Trump wasn’t: ‘We cannot let him win’"

 

I suspect Biden is sure now he'll attempt to run in the 2024 election so he can pardon the illustrious and highly successful crack-head Hunter currently under tax indictment in CA.

 

"Hunter Biden, the president’s son, was indicted Thursday in Los Angeles on several federal tax charges, marking the start of a second criminal case that will proceed during his father’s reelection campaign."

 

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-12-07/hunter-biden-indictment-tax-evasion-california-los-angeles

 

 Let's just see if the House has the balls to actually vote on the merits to impeach. Willing to bet the vote will take place or that the House actually votes to start an inquirer? 

[pomchop]

On 12/6/2023 at 2:38 PM, wombat said:

All the way with RFK as an independent.

Both Biden and Trump are yesterday's news wrapping today's fish heads. 

It's time for change 

yeah boy that is what we need another RFK another conspiracy theory nut job

[JonnyF]

15 minutes ago, illisdean said:

"Biden ‘not sure he’d be running’ in 2024 if Trump wasn’t: ‘We cannot let him win’"

 

I suspect Biden is sure now he'll attempt to run in the 2024 election so he can pardon the illustrious and highly successful crack-head Hunter currently under tax indictment in CA.

 

"Hunter Biden, the president’s son, was indicted Thursday in Los Angeles on several federal tax charges, marking the start of a second criminal case that will proceed during his father’s reelection campaign."

 

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-12-07/hunter-biden-indictment-tax-evasion-california-los-angeles

 

 

Hunter Biden, the gift that keeps on giving.

 

Well, they say that children are a reflection of the parents. Never more true.

[pomchop]

6 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

 Let's just see if the House has the balls to actually vote on the merits to impeach. Willing to bet the vote will take place or that the House actually votes to start an inquirer? 

sure let's dig and dig and dig and find no substantial evidence to impeach joe but meantime cheer a 4 time indicted ex potus who left a trail of evidence ten miles long of his criminal acts....evidence in his own words on video and audio tape backed up by document after document as well as substantial first hand testimony by multiple life long republicans and trump employees who were in the room and willing to testify to what they saw....evidence that anyone with an iq in double digits can see for themselves with a five minute search.....but but but what about biden loaning his derelict son enough money to buy a truck and then being repaid....pitiful beyond pitiful...

[newnative]

On 12/7/2023 at 1:49 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

5555555555555

 

Sooo, Trump is the biggest reason to remain. What a stupid reason. Doesn't Biden know that Trump has 90 something court cases that are "absolutely" going to see him in jail .

 

Perhaps Biden knows that he's never going to be found guilty, to be so fearful of the bad orange man.

     In my opinion, everyone in the world, not just USA citizens, should be 'fearful of the bad orange man'.  If, god forbid, he is elected, he will have 4 years to wreak havoc, with no re-election restraints to rein in his worst actions.  Scary.

[bendejo]

Biden ‘not sure he’d be running’ in 2024 if Trump wasn’t: ‘We cannot let him win’

 

Biden says he's about straight talk, and here is a delivery.

 

 

[illisdean]

5 hours ago, Tug said:

Sometimes I wish the Biden’s would fight fire with fire,I’d love to see all the details of jarrod and ivanka getting that 2 billion just a tad curious as to what was exchanged to butter up that particular conn bet daddy trump is a bit miffed 2 billion is a pretty good lick hummm…?

Kushner is a billionaire real estate investor with a long track record of success. That is precisely who you would hire to manage billions in real estate investments. It is uncanny the LACK of similarities.
     •    The Biden’s produce nothing,
    •    They have never produced anything.
    •    They offer no service other than graft. They have no skills in anything except graft.
    •    They have not succeeded in anything except graft – and arguably they have not succeeded very well in that.

 

Worse still – Hunter was an out of control addict. A highly successful crack head freak, alcohol and prostitutes, porn – by his own admission and now an alleged felon tax evader.
The Trump family – starting with Donald were born with a silver spoon. But they turned it to platinum. That is true of nearly all of them. Including the extended family. Trump has his share of business failures but many success's as well
The Biden’s are unremarkable and absent Bidens political career would be managing the local 7-11 if that.
Finally – Did Trump (and Kushner) use the power of the US government to deliver something of value to his Mideast connections ?
Absolutely. Trump and Kushner delivered Peace. which is worth hundreds of billions to them and to us.
If some of them decided to invest with Jared Kushner as a result – who can blame them.
No one would want to deal with the Biden’s because of the value they delivered to the world through their policies and presidency, except corrupt foreign governments that Biden keeps lying about and insisting he has no knowledge of or communications with and the functioning illiterate know full well that Biden is corrupt and a complete liar and denier of the evidence.
 

Edited December 8, 2023 by illisdean

[placeholder]

48 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Kushner is a billionaire real estate investor with a long track record of success. That is precisely who you would hire to manage billions in real estate investments. It is uncanny the LACK of similarities.
     •    The Biden’s produce nothing,
    •    They have never produced anything.
    •    They offer no service other than graft. They have no skills in anything except graft.
    •    They have not succeeded in anything except graft – and arguably they have not succeeded very well in that.

 

Worse still – Hunter was an out of control addict. A highly successful crack head freak, alcohol and prostitutes, porn – by his own admission and now an alleged felon tax evader.
The Trump family – starting with Donald were born with a silver spoon. But they turned it to platinum. That is true of nearly all of them. Including the extended family. Trump has his share of business failures but many success's as well
The Biden’s are unremarkable and absent Bidens political career would be managing the local 7-11 if that.
Finally – Did Trump (and Kushner) use the power of the US government to deliver something of value to his Mideast connections ?
Absolutely. Trump and Kushner delivered Peace. which is worth hundreds of billions to them and to us.
If some of them decided to invest with Jared Kushner as a result – who can blame them.
No one would want to deal with the Biden’s because of the value they delivered to the world through their policies and presidency, except corrupt foreign governments that Biden keeps lying about and insisting he has no knowledge of or communications with and the functioning illiterate know full well that Biden is corrupt and a complete liar and denier of the evidence.
 

More nonsense about Kushner. He nearly bankrupted his family by massively overpaying for a property in New York. The family got an extraordinary sweetheart deal that made no financial from a mysterious purchaser or purchasers. Unfortunately, for them, NY State law meant that one of the parties who purchased the properties was not entitled to privacy. Guess who that was? If you guessed the Qatari State Investment.

Fund, you win the prize.

https://www.justsecurity.org/69094/timeline-on-jared-kushner-qatar-666-fifth-avenue-and-white-house-policy/

 

Despite Kushners lack of experience outside of the real estate realm, the Saudis invested 2 billion dollars in his fund. On the other hand,  Trump's treasury secretary, who has a highly successful record as an investor, got only 1 billio from the Saudis.

Edited December 8, 2023 by placeholder

[pomchop]

1 hour ago, illisdean said:

Kushner is a billionaire real estate investor with a long track record of success. That is precisely who you would hire to manage billions in real estate investments. It is uncanny the LACK of similarities.
     •    The Biden’s produce nothing,
    •    They have never produced anything.
    •    They offer no service other than graft. They have no skills in anything except graft.
    •    They have not succeeded in anything except graft – and arguably they have not succeeded very well in that.

 

Worse still – Hunter was an out of control addict. A highly successful crack head freak, alcohol and prostitutes, porn – by his own admission and now an alleged felon tax evader.
The Trump family – starting with Donald were born with a silver spoon. But they turned it to platinum. That is true of nearly all of them. Including the extended family. Trump has his share of business failures but many success's as well
The Biden’s are unremarkable and absent Bidens political career would be managing the local 7-11 if that.
Finally – Did Trump (and Kushner) use the power of the US government to deliver something of value to his Mideast connections ?
Absolutely. Trump and Kushner delivered Peace. which is worth hundreds of billions to them and to us.
If some of them decided to invest with Jared Kushner as a result – who can blame them.
No one would want to deal with the Biden’s because of the value they delivered to the world through their policies and presidency, except corrupt foreign governments that Biden keeps lying about and insisting he has no knowledge of or communications with and the functioning illiterate know full well that Biden is corrupt and a complete liar and denier of the evidence.
 

Sale on kool aide?  what a load of garbage..try spending 10 minutes on google and then get back to us

 

here's one to get u started    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/10/us/jared-kushner-saudi-investment-fund.html

apparently the saudi review panel correctly said kusher had no relevant experience for such an investment and somehow i suspect they might know more than you

 

as for trump forbes says that if trump had simply invested his inheritance in the s & p he would be worth more than what he made from his fantastic biz acumen...google it.....then turn off fox and newsmax

[pomchop]

6 hours ago, Tug said:

Sometimes I wish the Biden’s would fight fire with fire,I’d love to see all the details of jarrod and ivanka getting that 2 billion just a tad curious as to what was exchanged to butter up that particular conn bet daddy trump is a bit miffed 2 billion is a pretty good lick hummm…?

according to repubs absolutely nothing to see re ivanka suddenly getting lots of patents from china and then jared getting 2 billion from saudis even though saudi fund review rejected the deal .....but oh boy we better go all in on trying to dig up more dirt on hunter biden who never worked in the white house or got appointed by daddy to high level positions....the hypocrisy is dazzling....really have to twist into pretzel not to see that...just imagine if biden had appointed a few of his kids to high level positions and then they had gotten the perks/$$ that ivanka and kushner got....non stop investigations on steroids...but since it was trump....crickets...

[Danderman123]

On 12/5/2023 at 11:41 PM, Hanaguma said:

Yeah, if only those stupid voters would wake up and understand how grateful they should be   /s

 

The most basic and simple question voters think about is this: "Are you better off now than when the President took office"  And the answer is clear. 

Gas was $2.50 under Trump, $3.50 under Biden.

Inflation sub 2% under Trump, 8% under Biden.

Mortgage sub 3% under Trump, over 7% under Biden.

 

Now you can argue those numbers all day, but they are visceral and dominate voters' minds.  

If you want to talk about numbers, you will lose.

 

unemployment in January 2021 was 6.3%

 

https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2021/unemployment-rates-lower-in-january-2021-in-33-states.htm#:~:text=The national unemployment rate%2C 6.3,higher than in January 2020.

 

unemployment now is 3.9%.

 

inflation is 3.3%

 

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi#:~:text=US Inflation Rate Seen Slowing,a fall in gasoline prices.

 

Peace and Prosperity win elections.

 

 

[Trippy]

6 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

 

 

unemployment in January 2021 was 6.3%

 

 

Surprised it wasn't higher than that, considering we were in the middle of the pandemic. 

[Neeranam]

On 12/6/2023 at 8:42 AM, CharlieH said:

“We cannot let him win.”

We?

 

Arrogant old fool!

[Tug]

5 hours ago, illisdean said:

Kushner is a billionaire real estate investor with a long track record of success. That is precisely who you would hire to manage billions in real estate investments. It is uncanny the LACK of similarities.
     •    The Biden’s produce nothing,
    •    They have never produced anything.
    •    They offer no service other than graft. They have no skills in anything except graft.
    •    They have not succeeded in anything except graft – and arguably they have not succeeded very well in that.

 

Worse still – Hunter was an out of control addict. A highly successful crack head freak, alcohol and prostitutes, porn – by his own admission and now an alleged felon tax evader.
The Trump family – starting with Donald were born with a silver spoon. But they turned it to platinum. That is true of nearly all of them. Including the extended family. Trump has his share of business failures but many success's as well
The Biden’s are unremarkable and absent Bidens political career would be managing the local 7-11 if that.
Finally – Did Trump (and Kushner) use the power of the US government to deliver something of value to his Mideast connections ?
Absolutely. Trump and Kushner delivered Peace. which is worth hundreds of billions to them and to us.
If some of them decided to invest with Jared Kushner as a result – who can blame them.
No one would want to deal with the Biden’s because of the value they delivered to the world through their policies and presidency, except corrupt foreign governments that Biden keeps lying about and insisting he has no knowledge of or communications with and the functioning illiterate know full well that Biden is corrupt and a complete liar and denier of the evidence.
 

Gee I hope you feel better lol 😆 what a load of nonsense!trump delivered retreat and surrender on all fronts to appease his authoritarian hero’s remember helinsky?or his wrecking the markets for our farm goods in China?I sure do!trump performed admirably for our enemies not so much for America in my humble opinion 

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, Trippy said:

Surprised it wasn't higher than that, considering we were in the middle of the pandemic. 

And Trump was president, so unemployment went through the roof.

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, Neeranam said:

We?

 

Arrogant old fool!

Another good jobs report today.

 

Peace and Prosperity will win the election.

[Trippy]

30 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

And Trump was president, so unemployment went through the roof.

Don't think you can blame Trump for the pandemic. In 2019 unemployment was 3.5%

 

https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2020/article/job-market-remains-tight-in-2019-as-the-unemployment-rate-falls-to-its-lowest-level-since-1969.htm#:~:text=The U.S. labor market remained,rate increased over the year.

[LosLobo]

10 hours ago, Trippy said:

Don't think you can blame Trump for the pandemic.

No, but you can blame him for his political response to the medical emergency, that likely caused more US deaths than both World Wars put together.