Jonathan Swift Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Celsius said: Yes. You are a mug. That was about as brilliant a response as I would expect. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post paul1804 Posted December 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2023 Welcome to the land of rip offs, they just cannot help themselves! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, Jonathan Swift said: I'm one of those mugs. I've read the comments from all you whiners and complainers. I've been here 10 years. I have never paid more than $300 for any hospital care including emergency treatments, albeit they were all outpatient. They were all at Phaya Thai 1 hospital. I've also had satisfactory dental treatments. The only time I've paid more was for dental implants, which were still less than 1/3 of what they cost in the US. But don't let me stop anyone from complaining, I realize that the biggest reason you came here was for fresh new topics to complain about because you got sick of the same old subjects in your home countries, where complaining and arguing is a national contact sport on the level of football. Wahhhh. I had an operation for a hernia at a private hospital, 1 night stay, 28K Baht, I thought that was reasonable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lopburikid Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 hours ago, rbkk said: So, visiting her country of birth and using that countries health service? I know that's a no-no for the UK's NHS. (Have to wait 3 years for returning residents.) Not if you enter Illegally in a dingy, you are give a FREE health check up the day after you land. Ha! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lopburikid Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Gottfrid said: Squeezing the cream out of the foreigner. Welcome to Thailand! 6 days in hospital, dengue fever, private room, doctor every day, treatment every day 24-hour attention. After 6 days B38,300 paid for by health insurance, 1 hour after sending bill. My annul Health Insurnace is B58,000. so got most of my money back after one visit. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbkk Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 41 minutes ago, prakhonchai nick said: Some years ago, my dual nationaity daughter spent a night in a well know Pattaya hospital following a minor motorbike accident. No surgery, no x rays, just overnight monitoring. When I received the ridiculously high bill the following morning, i took it up with the hospital management. Same story farang price! When I produced her ID card , the bill was cut down to 30% of the original price There are 5 different pricing tiers at Thai govt. hospitals. Which tier your billed at depends on your visa status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbkk Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 40 minutes ago, mfd101 said: So she's a Thai woman, Thai nationality, speaking (I assume) fluent Thai (which almost no non-Thais ever manage) ... and they thought she was a foreigner? Doesn't make sense. She registered with a foreign passport and paid using a foreign credit card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DjSilver Posted December 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2023 Another proof how racist and discriminating Thailand is. Always trying to scam foreigners. This is ehat is sick and disgusting about Thailand and it's part of Thai culture 🤮 If this would have been in any modern standard western country, it wouldn't only be illegal, but those who does this kind of discrimination, had to pay at least 400k baht to the person they discriminate. No wonder that Thailand is around 70 years behind the modern western countries, both in society and mentally. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post eddie61 Posted December 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Gottfrid said: Squeezing the cream out of the foreigner. Welcome to Thailand! More like roasting the goose that lays the golden eggs… once bitten twice shy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 hours ago, rbkk said: So, visiting her country of birth and using that countries health service? I know that's a no-no for the UK's NHS. (Have to wait 3 years for returning residents.) How does a UK hospital know you have been living abroad? ID is not compulsory in the UK, all you really need is your national insurance number, plenty of walk in doctors to register if need be. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsari Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 15 minutes ago, Lopburikid said: Not if you enter Illegally in a dingy, you are give a FREE health check up the day after you land. Ha! After having paid a fortune for the dingy I would say it is only fair that you receive a free health check at least before the British Indian PM sends them to Rwanda . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bangkok Barry Posted December 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2023 7 hours ago, webfact said: The hospital refunded 100,000 Baht, acknowledging errors on both sides—Ms. Nilakorn's failure to provide passport details for treatment and the hospital's failure to inquire. That tells you all you need to know. The cost of treatment is entirely unrelated to what it actually costs, but what passport you carry. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 hours ago, lopburi3 said: Obviously if charged she was not using free health care - anyone can use public hospitals on a paying basis. She was treated to the officially allowed foreigner charge for hospital service it seems - although there does not seem to be any mention of this being a government hospital in report. I think it was defiantly a Private Hospital I wonder if she had any insurance and the hospital in Question was ripping the insurance company off as well. Name and shame please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbkk Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) "Because the NHS is a residency-based system, under NHS rules UK nationals who move abroad on a permanent basis lose their entitlement to free NHS healthcare." https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/how-the-nhs-charges-overseas-visitors-for-nhs-hospital-care/how-the-nhs-charges-overseas-visitors-for-nhs-hospital-care Edited December 7, 2023 by rbkk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2baht Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, mfd101 said: So she's a Thai woman, Thai nationality, speaking (I assume) fluent Thai (which almost no non-Thais ever manage) ... and they thought she was a foreigner? Doesn't make sense. Yes it does.... pure greed! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethro27 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Gottfrid said: Squeezing the cream out of the foreigner. Welcome to Thailand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 3 hours ago, webfact said: All her family and friends advised her to contact the Consumer Protection Bureau, and the authorities agreed that the cost was too high. However, the authorities suggested she speak to the hospital first. If she could not reach an agreement with the hospital, the authorities would take legal steps to investigate the matter. All a misunderstanding of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jethro27 Posted December 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, brianthainess said: How does a UK hospital know you have been living abroad? ID is not compulsory in the UK, all you really need is your national insurance number, plenty of walk in doctors to register if need be. And thais wonder why foreigners treat them with mistrust. You have to treat foreigners with respect to receive the same back. greedy you know what!!!!!! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 hours ago, rbkk said: The Thai lady in the article checked in to the private hospital with a foreign passport and paid using an overseas credit card. Why does she feel she has a right to the "Thai Price"? "Why does she feel she has a right to the "Thai Price"?" Because she is a Thai! If she had been admitted using her Thai ID card the circumstances would have been exactly the same and she would have been billed with the Thai price to which she has a right and she would not be interrogated about whether she had paid taxes here, which you seem to think is relevant. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2baht Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, mfd101 said: So she's a Thai woman, Thai nationality, speaking (I assume) fluent Thai (which almost no non-Thais ever manage) ... and they thought she was a foreigner? Doesn't make sense. Yes it does.... pure greed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 8 hours ago, webfact said: a staggering medical bill of 249,704 Baht. For a bout of the flu 😱 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2baht Posted December 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2023 They are not Buddhists, they are Bahtists, they worship Lord Baht! 🙏 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Card said: Not true. You only need to provide proof you are returning to become a resident. Why tell them you have been overseas? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 .......' and would avoid being sick and being admitted to Thai hospitals again. ' Yes , good advice. From now on I will plan when I'm going to get sick well in advance so that it happens when I am visiting the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbkk Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: "Why does she feel she has a right to the "Thai Price"?" Because she is a Thai! If she had been admitted using her Thai ID card the circumstances would have been exactly the same and she would have been billed with the Thai price to which she has a right and she would not be interrogated about whether she had paid taxes here, which you seem to think is relevant. Just because I'm British does not give me the right to the UK(Free) price if I use the NHS. It's based on residency. I live in Thailand, same as most of us on here. I think she is not a Thai resident at this time. Her foreign passport and business are now in Sweden and prior to that she was in the US. She was not admitted as a Thai ID card holder. Thai TikTok says she used her foreign passport to register/admit to the hospital as well as paid using a foreign credit card. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobU Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, rbkk said: "Because the NHS is a residency-based system, under NHS rules UK nationals who move abroad on a permanent basis lose their entitlement to free NHS healthcare." https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/how-the-nhs-charges-overseas-visitors-for-nhs-hospital-care/how-the-nhs-charges-overseas-visitors-for-nhs-hospital-care My friend brought her father back to England. He had been living as an expatriate in the US for 30 years. He registered with a local GP and immediately received full NHS benefits for his complex heart conditions. As long as you say you intend to remain you get all benefits immediately. I think this means you can't get NHS benefits whilst out of the country. i.e. the NHS will not pay your medical bills in a foreign country. The old NHS is split into 2 parts now ie commissioner and providers. Part one is the NHS called the commissioner. Essentially it is a medical insurance company, it is classed in law as a private company, with all shares wholly owned by the government and has been ready to be floated on the stock exchange for many years under labour and conservative governments (the liberals also keep quiet about it). The providers are the NHS Trusts of which some are run by private companies. What this means is that an NHS trust or GP practice cannot be set up outside the UK. I understand that Norway has similar free healthcare system but because there is no limitation all Norwegians have their medical bills paid by the Norwegian NHS if they need medical/surgical treatment whilst abroad. Edited December 7, 2023 by RobU Additional info 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, brianthainess said: 1 hour ago, Card said: Not true. You only need to provide proof you are returning to become a resident. Why tell them you have been overseas? They ask for an address and with which GP the patient is registered. Many expats who are returning solely for medical NHS treatment can't provide that information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 A racist slur has been removed Please see our Community Standards 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Rimmer said: A racist slur has been removed Please see our Community Standards Thank you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABCDBKK Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 "Ms. Nilakorn, now more understanding, expresses gratitude and vows to stay healthy to avoid future complications upon returning to Thailand." So it was her fault for getting sick in Thailand in the first place. Had she not fallen ill with an airborne pathogen, then none of these problems would have ever happened. Clearly she is to blame. Note to self: Electively stay healthy by choosing to only contract the flu virus before or after visiting Thailand because the hospitals there are simply too expensive. Even if I were contract the flu in Thailand, be sure to endure the symptoms and only get medical treatment elsewhere after leaving the country to avoid being at fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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