Homosexual TV shows, movies

[Prubangboy]

4 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

 

 

 

If you do have sex with other men you're gay.

There's no middle ground.

 

 

 

What about eating a hot dog without the bun -grey area?

[BritManToo]

4 minutes ago, pdinbkk said:

Hey BMT, while I have many friends like you that couldn't ever be tempted to partake, if I could count the number of "straight" men I've had sex with in my life, I'd need at least 10 hands!  So yeah, I find the continuum theory WAY more plausible.

Plenty of gay men pretend to be straight, I see no conflict in your tale.

[pdinbkk]

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

Plenty of gay men pretend to be straight, I see no conflict in your tale.

Point taken!  I'd be interested in your thoughts of what percentage of the population you think might be gay.  While Kinsey and others have pegged this at about 10% of the population, there are a wide range of studies that predict that it is both smaller and larger in both humans and animals.  What's your guess?  Based on your lived experience. 

 

And, just to note, I'm guessing that you and I would not agree on much politically, I do love your contributions to the forum.  Hope you are recovering well from the nasty accident.

[scottiejohn]

27 minutes ago, Prubangboy said:

What about eating a hot dog without the bun -grey area?

Is your spell checker working?

Did you mean "What about eating a hot dog without the bum -gay area?

[lamyai3]

On 12/15/2023 at 2:38 PM, JBChiangRai said:

Maybe this is the problem?

 

 

 

I just remembered that sketch Dave Allen did, where he observed his name was an anagram of Anal Delve 😂 

[Baht Simpson]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

 

 

 

[Baht Simpson]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Gay is about having sex with other men, nothing more. 

 

Not really. A gay man can be celibate. A straight man can be celibate. It's about sexual orientation or who you are attracted too sexually or romantically, not the actual act.

[Baht Simpson]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

 

 

 

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Baht Simpson said:

Not really. A gay man can be celibate. A straight man can be celibate. It's about sexual orientation or who you are attracted too sexually or romantically, not the actual act.

Exactly. Also emotional attraction. A person can be celibate for life and still be gay (or straight). 

[Baht Simpson]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

 

 

 

[Baht Simpson]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

 

 

 

 

[Baht Simpson]

Sorry about the multiple posts. My laptop is being an arse. 

[scottiejohn]

1 hour ago, Baht Simpson said:

My laptop is being an arse.

Possibly the wrong topic to make such a slip of the tongue on!

[FritsSikkink]

14 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Just

 

Gay is about having sex with other men, nothing more. 

If you don't have sex with other men you're straight.

If you do have sex with other men you're gay.

There's no middle ground.

 

Your ridiculous statement concerning talking with other men, could be equally applied to talking to children/dogs/etc. It's faulty logic.

 

There is, loads of people are gay but stay in the closet because they are afraid of the backlash from people who can't handle it. People actually kill themselves because of these sad people's opinions.

[Baht Simpson]

15 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

Possibly the wrong topic to make such a slip of the tongue on!

How very dare you. :) 

[KhunLA]

7 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

There is, loads of people are gay but stay in the closet because they are afraid of the backlash from people who can't handle it. People actually kill themselves because of these sad people's opinions.

That's about the only good thing about the alphabet club getting lots of 'exposure'.  No real stigma attached to one's sexuality any more.  At least the latest generation, as seems the 'in thing' is to claim you are non binary/letter of some sort.  

 

Think I saw 1 survey where 15ish% or so of the youngins, don't identify as straight.

  

[Jingthing]

4 hours ago, KhunLA said:

That's about the only good thing about the alphabet club getting lots of 'exposure'.  No real stigma attached to one's sexuality any more.  At least the latest generation, as seems the 'in thing' is to claim you are non binary/letter of some sort.  

 

Think I saw 1 survey where 15ish% or so of the youngins, don't identify as straight.

  

Still no real stigma?

Do you actually believe that or are you trolling?

As it's not true.

It depends on where a person lives, what their family is like, their larger community, economic class, etc.

In the US for example:

LGBTQ Youth Are Still Experiencing High Rates of Bullying (healthline.com)

 

[Jingthing]

As far as gay content in media (other than porn) there are different types. 

Like if a show is specifically made to appeal to a gay audience, it's insane for anyone to complain about that.

It's very easy to identify such shows.

Logo network tends to have a lot of such shows.

Logo TV | Homepage | Watch on logotv.com

But even those aren't necessarily black and white. Such as Asian "Boy Love" series -- my understanding is that most viewers are straight women, teen girls, etc. There aren't nearly enough gay people to support such a huge industry including in Thailand!

Then we get into "regular" tv where gay characters and story lines are an organic part of the content.

Like Modern Family.

But even in that category it's not always easy to narrow label everything.

Take the very excellent current series Fellow Travellers.

Yes the lead characters are gay men and it's about their troubled decades long romance (one is married to a "beard" woman) but the overall story has great appeal to a much wider audience as it documents the red and queer baiting McCarthy era brilliantly.

 

 

Anyone who complains about that kind of general audience contrent is most likely a very close minded person, bigot, etc.

I will concede that sometimes there are more low quality shows that might use a tick the box system to include more "diversity" than seems organic to the story.

To me that's more about complaining about low quality shows than showing gay characters and story lines.

In any case there is more than enough content these days (approaching the infinite) to satisfy every kind of viewer.

 

Edited December 20, 2023 by Jingthing

[thaicurious]

11 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Think I saw 1 survey where 15ish% or so of the youngins, don't identify as straight.

  

 

https://nypost.com/2023/04/18/gen-z-women-identify-as-bisexual-in-unprecedented-numbers/

A new analysis of Census Bureau data reveals that between 19% and 22% of women aged 18 to 25 identify as bi.

 

https://news.gallup.com/poll/470708/lgbt-identification-steady.aspx

Adult members of Generation Z, those born between 1997 and 2004 who were aged 18 to 25 in 2022, are the most likely subgroup to identify as LGBT, with 19.7% doing so.

 

https://www.nber.org/papers/w19508

The veiled method increased self-reports of non-heterosexual identity by 65% (p<0.05) and same-sex sexual experiences by 59% (p<0.01).

https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w19508/w19508.pdf

We do not describe the alternative categories for non-heterosexuality, but these could encompass homosexual, gay, lesbian, bisexual, queer, undecided, and other categories. In the Direct Report treatment, 11% of the population reports that they do not consider themselves heterosexual (8% for men, 16% for women). In the Veiled Report treatment, this increases to 19% (15% for men, 22% for women).

 

So the latest data seems to indicate that 80% of the world is str8. Meaning that the ~1,600,000,000 people who are not str8 are just as normal.

[KhunLA]

3 hours ago, thaicurious said:

 

https://nypost.com/2023/04/18/gen-z-women-identify-as-bisexual-in-unprecedented-numbers/

A new analysis of Census Bureau data reveals that between 19% and 22% of women aged 18 to 25 identify as bi.

 

https://news.gallup.com/poll/470708/lgbt-identification-steady.aspx

Adult members of Generation Z, those born between 1997 and 2004 who were aged 18 to 25 in 2022, are the most likely subgroup to identify as LGBT, with 19.7% doing so.

 

https://www.nber.org/papers/w19508

The veiled method increased self-reports of non-heterosexual identity by 65% (p<0.05) and same-sex sexual experiences by 59% (p<0.01).

https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w19508/w19508.pdf

We do not describe the alternative categories for non-heterosexuality, but these could encompass homosexual, gay, lesbian, bisexual, queer, undecided, and other categories. In the Direct Report treatment, 11% of the population reports that they do not consider themselves heterosexual (8% for men, 16% for women). In the Veiled Report treatment, this increases to 19% (15% for men, 22% for women).

 

So the latest data seems to indicate that 80% of the world is str8. Meaning that the ~1,600,000,000 people who are not str8 are just as normal.

I original post 40%, but then thought I better check, as memory isn't always spot on.  As you post, most higher #s were 18-22 ish %, so went with 15%.

 

Pretty sure that 80% straight is a bit off, as how many closeted, will even admit on an anonymous survey that they are bi or gay.  Especially if someone is with them, while doing the surveys.

 

Really is location, and peer group dependent.

[GinBoy2]

So the original topic was TV with homosexual content.

 

Well nobody forces you to watch anything, if a gay character or plot doesn't offend you in any way go ahead, although I hardly see a TV program suddenly changing you sexual life preferences and turning you over to the 'other team'.

 

If you are that worried about the profound effect it will have on your sexuality, well just go watch Fox News for the rest of your life, you'll be fine.

 

Even Downton Abby had a gay character, but I don't somehow see the period drama crowd suddenly turning rabidly homosexual!

Edited December 21, 2023 by GinBoy2

[thaicurious]

8 hours ago, KhunLA said:

I original post 40%, but then thought I better check, as memory isn't always spot on.  As you post, most higher #s were 18-22 ish %, so went with 15%.

 

Pretty sure that 80% straight is a bit off, as how many closeted, will even admit on an anonymous survey that they are bi or gay.  Especially if someone is with them, while doing the surveys.

 

Really is location, and peer group dependent.

 

Outside possible epigenetics or even nurtured differences, I don't know if there'd be significant deviation in numbers based on geography or culture because I suspect human nature more so commonly shared; and I'd doubt age group actual (not merely reported) differences even more, suspecting the younger reporting greater numbers simply by having been freed from fears suffered by earlier generations, so better able to explore within, express with others & present honestly in surveys their sexual selves.

 

As to answering anonymously, read (link already provided above) NBER's research on what they call a "veiled study" designed specifically to get a more accurate survey. If I recall correctly, that was done at least a decade ago, so, interesting that their 19% aligns with more current surveys.

 

It only seems like 40% when I go out partying, though your 15% was certainly closer than the 5% people used to think it was. Beer throws off that 80% every time. After all, what's the difference between a str8 man and a gay man? Three beers! Meanwhile, there's not enough beer in the world to incline me to go down on a chick

[GinBoy2]

On 12/21/2023 at 2:48 AM, thaicurious said:

 

Outside possible epigenetics or even nurtured differences, I don't know if there'd be significant deviation in numbers based on geography or culture because I suspect human nature more so commonly shared; and I'd doubt age group actual (not merely reported) differences even more, suspecting the younger reporting greater numbers simply by having been freed from fears suffered by earlier generations, so better able to explore within, express with others & present honestly in surveys their sexual selves.

 

As to answering anonymously, read (link already provided above) NBER's research on what they call a "veiled study" designed specifically to get a more accurate survey. If I recall correctly, that was done at least a decade ago, so, interesting that their 19% aligns with more current surveys.

 

It only seems like 40% when I go out partying, though your 15% was certainly closer than the 5% people used to think it was. Beer throws off that 80% every time. After all, what's the difference between a str8 man and a gay man? Three beers! Meanwhile, there's not enough beer in the world to incline me to go down on a chick

It'a fools errand going down the 'how many people are gay' rathole.

 

Nobody get's 'converted' it's just who we are, so 10% 20% it doesn't matter.

 

Like I said in an earlier post, in my teenage years, my most formative my best friend was gay.

 

Did he covert me, or equally importantly did I covert him?

 

The answer of course was no, we both grew up to men happy in our individual sexuality, and shock horror we could still be best buddies

[thaicurious]

2 hours ago, GinBoy2 said:

It'a fools errand going down the 'how many people are gay' rathole.

It'a fools errand going down the 'how many people are gay' rathole.

 

Meanwhile, demographics actually do matter

 

https://leadershipdevelopment.extension.wisc.edu/articles/what-you-can-learn-about-your-community-from-demographics/#:~:text=Demographic data can help provide,policy development or decision making.

"Demographic data can help provide a basis for understanding communities as they are now, where they’ve been and where they’re headed. It can be a powerful tool for tracking change over time and for uncovering the needs or strengths of a community to guide planning, policy development or decision making." (bolding mine)

 

Why, the numbers you thoughtlessly denounce probably even have something to do with whether networks even make or run gay tv shows and movies

 

But here's the real kicker, you know who the percentages would matter to the most? How about to the friend whose best friendship you lament having lost. To think when he was a kid in a classroom of 20 that he wouldn't have been the only one, the 5%, the token fag desperate for a friend, fearful of being found out. Now imagine had he known he was one of 20% in that classroom that was not straight. Maybe he'd have breathed easier? To know it wasn't just him an oddity, but three others also not simply oriented towards the opposite sex as a normality. No longer a kid playing solitaire, but a game for four, a game of gin rummy, a game of bridge, a game of hearts.

[mrwebb8825]

On 12/14/2023 at 11:46 PM, klauskunkel said:

I see a future where you have to show you conform to all social agendas. There will be Social/Cyber Police evaluating the emojis you posted, your voting rights will depend on your social awareness and behavior, and your taxes will go up for each perceived faux pas.

You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

This is quite disturbing and scary coming from a non-conformist Santa Clause. Mommy. make the bad man go away!

[Jingthing]

For those of you needing to avoid "homosexual" content by all means you must watch the videos from this channel. I know I do.

 

 

[Yellowtail]

I think men like to have indiscriminate sex, and once the stigma or homosexual is removes and as it is promoted on TV and what not you have more of it. Once being gay or trans or whatnot becomes cool, kids want to be gay or trans or whatnot. 

 

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I think men like to have indiscriminate sex, and once the stigma or homosexual is removes and as it is promoted on TV and what not you have more of it. Once being gay or trans or whatnot becomes cool, kids want to be gay or trans or whatnot. 

 

You're attracted to who you're attracted to. 

[Baht Simpson]

18 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

and once the stigma or homosexual is removes and as it is promoted on TV and what not you have more of it.

 

What?

[Yellowtail]

6 hours ago, Baht Simpson said:

What?

I think men like to have indiscriminate sex, and once the stigma or homosexual is removes and as it is promoted on TV and what not you have more of it. Once being gay or trans or whatnot becomes cool, kids want to be gay or trans or whatnot.