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23 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

I wouldn't call it a "depression".

Because the whole economic system is being "re-structured". 

Capitalism as we know it may cease to exist and be replaced by a more socialist-capitalist mix of some sort.

Hence the WEF slogan "you will own nothing" by the Great Reset date of 2030.

It's only a "depression" if you use the current economy as a reference point.

Great Reset is probably more accurate than calling it a depression or recession.

The goal posts are changing radically.

 

 

"You will own nothing" doesn't mean that at all. It means everything will be leased to you on a subscription basis. This has already started. Microsoft now pressures you to "subscribe" to Office. All the books that you have on your kindle or other e-reader don't belong to you. Sony just deleted all Discovery programs from its Playstation. HP forces you to subscribe to ink jet replacements and if you decide not to pay they lock down your printer. 

 

In other words, you'll have rights over nothing.

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8 hours ago, jaywalker2 said:

"You will own nothing" doesn't mean that at all. It means everything will be leased to you on a subscription basis. This has already started. Microsoft now pressures you to "subscribe" to Office. All the books that you have on your kindle or other e-reader don't belong to you. Sony just deleted all Discovery programs from its Playstation. HP forces you to subscribe to ink jet replacements and if you decide not to pay they lock down your printer. 

 

In other words, you'll have rights over nothing.

OK, good point. I'm not exactly sure what they mean, but you could be right. 

 

But for some things, it's a mixed bag. I got quite attached my LP collection, but it's a pain in the butt when you need to move. Now, all my music is on Youtube. I can access the music even when I'm on vacation from any device. This convenience overrides the need to own a music library. 

 

Let's extend it to cars. Some people might rather die than give up car ownership, but I'm quite looking forward to robo-taxis. Let someone else worry about maintenance, rotating the tires, oil changes, insurance, finding parking, parking tickets ... Ownership is burdensome. It can be fun especially if you can afford a cool car. But it's also a burden to own a lot of stuff.  And most people cannot afford cool cars anyway and drive sh&t boxes, so Karl Schwab is putting them out of their misery, as far as I'm concerned. Why would anyone want to bother owning and maintaining a crappy Toyota when cheap robo-taxis are available? 

 

 

 

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On 12/16/2023 at 10:31 PM, PingRoundTheWorld said:

'm not sure why you're freaking out- the US is almost completely over the minor recession it experienced, and when it charges forward it will pull the entire world with it. The only thing that could possibly spoil that is a large-scale war - something that's very unlikely to happen in an election year.

 

By the same token, when the US craps in the bed, the whole world has to lie in it.

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4 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Let's extend it to cars. Some people might rather die than give up car ownership, but I'm quite looking forward to robo-taxis.

I agree, no need to own if you get to use one for low price when you need it.

This trend is expanding in EU countries. Many new apartments own cars you can book and use like electric scooters. I'm all for it.

However, don't dare to limit my use of my classic 10MPG 'merikan Land Yachts -:)

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1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said:

Easy mistake when you are talking about pensions in your original post. So you're not a boomer then? Gen X?

 

I am not a boomer, but I don't see what difference does it make?

 

I didn't start my post by saying have fun staying poor

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Yes, it's already happening. Thailand has not had a good economy since perhaps 2005.

 

I just noticed today how prices at Big C jumped yet again.

 

Luxury products especially cosmetics are being fire-saled. Fancy consumables. I see restaurants and shops closing left and right with many standing vacant central Bangkok. I bet provs really hurting.

 

Hence, all the red shirt spending programs as well.

 

GDP growth only 2.5 next year. That's absolutely miserable for a developing economy. In a good year the United States can see at least that and more.

 

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On 12/16/2023 at 9:53 PM, Celsius said:

 

Maybe that's it.

 

I just remembered that article about "carbon passports" and travel restrictions that may be coming.

 

That will be a major barrier for any expat living in Thailand if that ever gets approved.

its not only a carbon pasport but the coming digital pasport (Europe) will have much more controle over you then only restricted traveling. I realy dont know how things will develop in England but i have the feeling that England did the smartest thing ever.......BREXIT

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On 12/18/2023 at 12:21 AM, gearbox said:

In Australia the government cares about the pensioners within the country, not those receiving OAP overseas. Give the resident pensioners extra $5, they'll happily vote for anything which hurts the pensioners overseas. Divide and conquer.

I believe the government cares , I love the government they look  after all the pensioners 

Most sit in a club playing pokies all day with their pension

I love this government of Australia,thankyou 

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On 12/16/2023 at 5:54 PM, Celsius said:

What's unconstitutional? Just like driver's license, passport is a privilege, not a right.

The right to travel is a constitutional right. While the Supreme Court allowed states to require driver's licenses - it is doubtful it will stand for denying people travel based on a "carbon passport". That's clearly a violation of the constitution. (not to mention not everybody in the US is a crazy progressive - there's still plenty of conservatives and libertarians who won't go along with this)

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