Biden says there's 'no question' Trump engaged in an insurrection

[gargamon]

26 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Do you believe that Trump really weighs 215 lbs?

Trump said it. It must be true. 

[candide]

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Do you believe that Trump really weighs 215 lbs?

No Trump supporter will accept to talk about it! 🤣

[Joebuzzz]

21 hours ago, billd766 said:

Do you actually have any evidence, links etc that backs up your rants.

 

As an example in your post you allege that all lawyers are liars. Can you tell us all how many lawyers you have personally interviewed, and how you proved them to be liars? The same for the judges?

 

Which country were the Dominion voting machines pulled from and the full legal reasons why?

Not pulled, refused to allow is more like it.

Canada Elections Department Announces It Refuses To Use Dominion Voting Systems

 

November 18, 2020 at 2:44pm

 

Canada’s elections management body announced Tuesday that it does not use Dominion Voting Systems election software, a heavily scrutinized voting software that has been the subject of many conspiracy theories surrounding the 2020 U.S. presidential election.

Elections Canada wanted to assure Canadian voters that they should not have the same concerns Americans have regarding election integrity.

“Elections Canada does not use Dominion Voting Systems. We use paper ballots counted by hand in front of scrutineers and have never used voting machines or electronic tabulators to count votes in our 100-year history,” Elections Canada tweeted Monday.

[Joebuzzz]

On 12/21/2023 at 7:32 AM, Tug said:

Well for a sleepy guy he sure gets stuff done!I know that bothers some but facts are facts it is what it is.and you could sure use some new material 😂 

"Gets stuff done"?

Please elaborate on the outstanding things he's accomplished.

I need a good laff.

[Joebuzzz]

22 hours ago, candide said:

Very funny!

Let's just consider this one:

"They knew about Hunters laptop before the 2021 election, but wouldn't report on it"

Obviously Breitbart forgot to tell you that Giuliani had the laptop content one year before elections, and refused to handle it to the so-called MSM. He only gave it to the NYPost. When they later got the laptop content, they started checking it and reporting about it. Did you expect them to believe the liar Giuliani (known for his contacts with Russian operatives) and the biased NYPost without checking anything? 🤣

And the FBI had it first. They certainly did their job acting on it. The DOJ has been investigating Hunter over 5 years for money laundering.  They certainly did their jobs there too. They're all corrupt.

[Joebuzzz]

On 12/21/2023 at 11:02 AM, placeholder said:

'Another right wing mindreader.

 

You don't need to be a mind reader.  Here's some FACTS about Biden.  I didn't even make them up.

[Eric Loh]

28 minutes ago, Joebuzzz said:

Not pulled, refused to allow is more like it.

Canada Elections Department Announces It Refuses To Use Dominion Voting Systems

 

November 18, 2020 at 2:44pm

 

Canada’s elections management body announced Tuesday that it does not use Dominion Voting Systems election software, a heavily scrutinized voting software that has been the subject of many conspiracy theories surrounding the 2020 U.S. presidential election.

Elections Canada wanted to assure Canadian voters that they should not have the same concerns Americans have regarding election integrity.

“Elections Canada does not use Dominion Voting Systems. We use paper ballots counted by hand in front of scrutineers and have never used voting machines or electronic tabulators to count votes in our 100-year history,” Elections Canada tweeted Monday.

Have to consider 2 factors that influence voting methods - covid pandemic and population. 

[Joebuzzz]

10 hours ago, kwonitoy said:

 

I'd like to know the inside info on Tay Tay, but I don't watch the fox entertainment channel, maybe you could provide the inside scoop?

Don't watch Fox. It's got too much Tay Tay.

[candide]

26 minutes ago, Joebuzzz said:

And the FBI had it first. They certainly did their job acting on it. The DOJ has been investigating Hunter over 5 years for money laundering.  They certainly did their jobs there too. They're all corrupt.

Right, it was acquired by a grand jury subpoena. So what?

[Eric Loh]

37 minutes ago, Joebuzzz said:

And the FBI had it first. They certainly did their job acting on it. The DOJ has been investigating Hunter over 5 years for money laundering.  They certainly did their jobs there too. They're all corrupt.

Giuliani and Durham investigated too and came up nothing. You think both of them are corrupted too? 

[candide]

5 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Giuliani and Durham investigated too and came up nothing. You think both of them are corrupted too? 

Not to mention the NYPost which also came up with nothing after scrutinizing  the laptop for 3 years. 😁

[Joebuzzz]

42 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Have to consider 2 factors that influence voting methods - covid pandemic and population. 

Read this

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/expert-report-fuels-election-doubts-georgia-waits-update-voting-softwa-rcna89566

 

And this, from liberal NPR.

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/election-security-experts-urge-georgia-to-swap-out-touchscreen-voting-machines

 

And Louisiana cancels $95 million Dominion contract.

 

https://statescoop.com/louisiana-cancels-95-million-contract-for-new-voting-machines/

 

ETC, ETC.

Of course there was no election fraud. Do you realize if they actually admitted it now what the ramifications would be?  They just want it buried.

 

 

[candide]

11 minutes ago, Joebuzzz said:

Read this

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/expert-report-fuels-election-doubts-georgia-waits-update-voting-softwa-rcna89566

 

And this, from liberal NPR.

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/election-security-experts-urge-georgia-to-swap-out-touchscreen-voting-machines

 

And Louisiana cancels $95 million Dominion contract.

 

https://statescoop.com/louisiana-cancels-95-million-contract-for-new-voting-machines/

 

ETC, ETC.

Of course there was no election fraud. Do you realize if they actually admitted it now what the ramifications would be?  They just want it buried.

 

 

The usual lame conspiracy theory! 😃

BTW, from the NPR article:

A second report, also unsealed by the judge, was authored by national security nonprofit MITRE. That group argued the hacks identified by Halderman were “operationally infeasible” based on normal voting practices, scale considerations, and adherence to strict security measures

"The Halderman report was the result of a computer scientist having complete access to the Dominion equipment and software for three months in a laboratory environment. It identified risks that are theoretical and imaginary. Our security measures are real and mitigate all of them," Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger wrote in a letter to state lawmakers, which Raffensperger's office shared with NBC News.

He continued: "Is it possible for a team of bad actors to break into Georgia’s 2,700 voting precincts, install malware that changes election outcomes on 35,000 pieces of equipment, and sneak back out — all the while being undetected and leaving no trace? I’ll put it this way: It’s more likely that I could win the lottery without buying a ticket."

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1 hour ago, Joebuzzz said:

 

You don't need to be a mind reader.  Here's some FACTS about Biden.  I didn't even make them up.

I'm not surprised that you think this is a serious indictment of Biden. But I've noticed about right wingers is the predilection for using videos instead of text to advance their views. While dyslexia may be a contributing factor. The fact is it's a lot harder to fact check videos that it is to fact check text. Get back to me when you got something writing. If you even know what that looks like.

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, Joebuzzz said:

Read this

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/expert-report-fuels-election-doubts-georgia-waits-update-voting-softwa-rcna89566

 

And this, from liberal NPR.

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/election-security-experts-urge-georgia-to-swap-out-touchscreen-voting-machines

 

And Louisiana cancels $95 million Dominion contract.

 

https://statescoop.com/louisiana-cancels-95-million-contract-for-new-voting-machines/

 

ETC, ETC.

Of course there was no election fraud. Do you realize if they actually admitted it now what the ramifications would be?  They just want it buried.

 

 

If you seriously believe that the 2020 election was stolen, or otherwise somehow less well conducted than other elections, you have been fooled.

 

No election is perfect, but the 2020 election results were very accurate, as evident by the unprecedented number of recounts and audits.

 

Where are you on the Apollo moon landings, and the Flat Earth theory?

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, Joebuzzz said:

"Gets stuff done"?

Please elaborate on the outstanding things he's accomplished.

I need a good laff.

Thanks for asking:

 

https://stephensoncountydemocraticparty.com/blog/f/here-are-23-of-joe-biden’s-greatest-accomplishments-as-president

 

1. Passed the $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure package to increase investment in the national network of bridges and roads, airports, public transport and national broadband internet, as well as waterways and energy systems. 

2. Helped get more than 500 million life-saving COVID-19 vaccinations in the arms of Americans through the American Rescue Plan. 

3. Stopped a 30-year streak of federal inaction on gun violence by signing the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act that created enhanced background checks, closed the “boyfriend” loophole, and provided funds for youth mental health. 

4. Made a $369 billion investment in climate change, the largest in American history, through the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022. 

5. Ended the longest war in American history by pulling the troops out of Afghanistan.

6. Provided $10,000 to $20,000 in college debt relief to Americans with loans who make under $125,000 a year. This was struck down but the Supreme Court, however, the administration has announced a new plan to forgive billions in loans that were qualified under special programs but not done due to DOE mismanagement in previous years. Read the article above) 

7. Cut child poverty in half through the American Rescue Plan. 

8. Capped prescription drug prices at $2,000 per year for seniors on Medicare through the Inflation Reduction Act. 

9. Passed the COVID-19 relief deal that provided payments of up to $1,400 to many struggling U.S. citizens while supporting renters and increasing unemployment benefits. 

10. Achieved historically low unemployment rates after the pandemic caused them to skyrocket. 

11. Imposed a 15% minimum corporate tax on some of the largest corporations in the country, ensuring that they pay their fair share, as part of the historic Inflation Reduction Act.

12. Recommitted America to the global fight against climate change by rejoining the Paris Agreement. 

13. Strengthened the NATO alliance in support of Ukraine after the Russian invasion by endorsing the inclusion of world military powers Sweden and Finland. 

14. Authorized the assassination of the Al Qaeda terrorist Ayman al-Zawahiri, who became head of the organization after the death of Osama bin Laden. 

15. Gave Medicare the power to negotiate prescription drug prices through the Inflation Reduction Act while also reducing government health spending.

16. Held Vladimir Putin accountable for his invasion of Ukraine by imposing stiff economic sanctions. 

17. Boosted the budget of the Internal Revenue Service by nearly $80 billion to reduce tax evasion and increase revenue. 

18. Created more jobs in one year (6.6 million) than any other president in U.S. history. 

19. Reduced healthcare premiums under the Affordable Care Act by $800 a year as part of the American Rescue Plan. 

20. Signed the PACT Act to address service members’ exposure to burn pits and other toxins. 

21. Signed the CHIPS and Science Act to strengthen American manufacturing and innovation. 

22. Reauthorized the Violence Against Women Act through 2027. 

23. Halted all federal executions after the previous administration reinstated them after a 17-year freeze.

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When Trump denounced people whom he was opposed to as criminals and called for prosecution of them, he was clearly out of line. So was Biden's. Granted, unlike Trump's many, many claims, Biden's was not made vociferously or repeatedly. But, nonetheless, he shouldn't have done it.

[billd766]

3 hours ago, Joebuzzz said:

Not pulled, refused to allow is more like it.

Canada Elections Department Announces It Refuses To Use Dominion Voting Systems

 

November 18, 2020 at 2:44pm

 

Canada’s elections management body announced Tuesday that it does not use Dominion Voting Systems election software, a heavily scrutinized voting software that has been the subject of many conspiracy theories surrounding the 2020 U.S. presidential election.

Elections Canada wanted to assure Canadian voters that they should not have the same concerns Americans have regarding election integrity.

“Elections Canada does not use Dominion Voting Systems. We use paper ballots counted by hand in front of scrutineers and have never used voting machines or electronic tabulators to count votes in our 100-year history,” Elections Canada tweeted Monday.

Thank you.

 

It seems that only the USA and Canada were using the system in 2020 and other un-named countries.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Voting_Systems

 

There is some interesting information in the link regarding the US states of Georgia and Wisconsin and the Dominion results.

 

in a different link from the BBC News this morning, Trump's lawyer is in a heap of trouble, partly stemming from claims that he defamed election workers in Georgia in the 2020 US Presidential elections.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67796546

 

Rudy Giuliani, a longtime associate of former President Donald Trump, has filed for bankruptcy just days after he was ordered to pay $148m (£116m) in a defamation case.

He was ordered to pay the sum after a judge found he defamed two Georgia election workers over false claims they tampered with votes in 2020.

 

[nauseus]

22 hours ago, gargamon said:

Don't forget, Trump is also morbidly obese(even though he says 215 lbs), eats McDonald's and KFC all the time, and gets absolutely no exercise. 

 

He can still walk quicker than Biden can "jog". All that without tripping and falling, or going the wrong way.

 

 

 

 

[nauseus]

16 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Actor John Schneider, best known for his role as Bo Duke on the classic TV show Dukes of Hazzard, responded to a post on X from President Joe Biden late Wednesday — and suggested that he be publicly executed.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/john-schneider/

 

 

 

 

That was a crap series anyway.

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Thanks for asking:

 

https://stephensoncountydemocraticparty.com/blog/f/here-are-23-of-joe-biden’s-greatest-accomplishments-as-president

 

1. Passed the $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure package to increase investment in the national network of bridges and roads, airports, public transport and national broadband internet, as well as waterways and energy systems. 

2. Helped get more than 500 million life-saving COVID-19 vaccinations in the arms of Americans through the American Rescue Plan. 

3. Stopped a 30-year streak of federal inaction on gun violence by signing the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act that created enhanced background checks, closed the “boyfriend” loophole, and provided funds for youth mental health. 

4. Made a $369 billion investment in climate change, the largest in American history, through the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022. 

5. Ended the longest war in American history by pulling the troops out of Afghanistan.

6. Provided $10,000 to $20,000 in college debt relief to Americans with loans who make under $125,000 a year. This was struck down but the Supreme Court, however, the administration has announced a new plan to forgive billions in loans that were qualified under special programs but not done due to DOE mismanagement in previous years. Read the article above) 

7. Cut child poverty in half through the American Rescue Plan. 

8. Capped prescription drug prices at $2,000 per year for seniors on Medicare through the Inflation Reduction Act. 

9. Passed the COVID-19 relief deal that provided payments of up to $1,400 to many struggling U.S. citizens while supporting renters and increasing unemployment benefits. 

10. Achieved historically low unemployment rates after the pandemic caused them to skyrocket. 

11. Imposed a 15% minimum corporate tax on some of the largest corporations in the country, ensuring that they pay their fair share, as part of the historic Inflation Reduction Act.

12. Recommitted America to the global fight against climate change by rejoining the Paris Agreement. 

13. Strengthened the NATO alliance in support of Ukraine after the Russian invasion by endorsing the inclusion of world military powers Sweden and Finland. 

14. Authorized the assassination of the Al Qaeda terrorist Ayman al-Zawahiri, who became head of the organization after the death of Osama bin Laden. 

15. Gave Medicare the power to negotiate prescription drug prices through the Inflation Reduction Act while also reducing government health spending.

16. Held Vladimir Putin accountable for his invasion of Ukraine by imposing stiff economic sanctions. 

17. Boosted the budget of the Internal Revenue Service by nearly $80 billion to reduce tax evasion and increase revenue. 

18. Created more jobs in one year (6.6 million) than any other president in U.S. history. 

19. Reduced healthcare premiums under the Affordable Care Act by $800 a year as part of the American Rescue Plan. 

20. Signed the PACT Act to address service members’ exposure to burn pits and other toxins. 

21. Signed the CHIPS and Science Act to strengthen American manufacturing and innovation. 

22. Reauthorized the Violence Against Women Act through 2027. 

23. Halted all federal executions after the previous administration reinstated them after a 17-year freeze.

 

I suppose all these "accomplishments" are why Joe is so popular right now?

 

I got as far as the Afghanistan mention then had to stop to dry retch.

[candide]

2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

I suppose all these "accomplishments" are why Joe is so popular right now?

 

I got as far as the Afghanistan mention then had to stop to dry retch.

I agree It's a bit far stretched to attribute the Afghan case to Biden. After all, It's all been negotiated with the Taliban, prepared and partly implemented (ex. withdrawal of most U.S. troops, release of 5000 Taliban fighters,  etc...)  by the Trump administration. Trump certainly deserves credit for it.

[gargamon]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

 

He can still walk quicker than Biden can "jog". All that without tripping and falling, or going the wrong way.

 

 

 

 

Are you sure about that? https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1271902553417138176

[billd766]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

 

He can still walk quicker than Biden can "jog". All that without tripping and falling, or going the wrong way.

 

 

 

 

Should everybody be impressed by that?

 

I am 79. My Thai son is 19. He can run, jump. play basketball and walk much faster than me.

 

Am I impressed? No, because I could do many things like that when I was younger.

 

You forgot to mention that Trump also tells more lies, has had more bankruptcies though his various companies than President Biden. He is also the first ex POTUS to be charged at least 90 times in various courts for various offenses across the USA

 

Am I impressed with that also? Not in the slightest.

 

He is a prime example of the saying 

 

'You can fool all people some of the time,

and some people all the time.

But you can never fool all people all the time.

 

Another good US President said that

 

Abraham Lincoln.

Edited December 22, 2023 by billd766
corrected some bad spelling

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

 

He can still walk quicker than Biden can "jog". All that without tripping and falling, or going the wrong way.

 

 

 

 

Your love for Trump makes you blind.

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, candide said:

I agree It's a bit far stretched to attribute the Afghan case to Biden. After all, It's all been negotiated with the Taliban, prepared and partly implemented (ex. withdrawal of most U.S. troops, release of 5000 Taliban fighters,  etc...)  by the Trump administration. Trump certainly deserves credit for it.

 

Forget it. The disastrous US withdrawal from Afghanistan belongs to Biden.

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, gargamon said:

Are you sure about that? https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1271902553417138176

 

The old slippery ramp. At least Trump was aware enough to take care. We all know where Joe would have ended up!

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

Should everybody be impressed by that?

 

I am 79. My Thai son is 19. He can run, jump. play basketball and walk much faster than me.

 

Am I impressed? No, because I could do many things like that when I was younger.

 

You forgot to mention that Trump also tells more lies, has had more bankruptcies though his various companies than President Biden. He is also the first ex POTUS to be charged at least 90 times in various courts for various offenses across the USA

 

Am I impressed with that also? Not in the slightest.

 

He is a prime example of the saying 

 

'You can fool all people some of the time,

and some people all the time.

But you can never fool all people all the time.

 

Another good US President said that

 

Abraham Lincoln.

 

Impressed? Not really. But there is a marked difference between the two and Joe's wobblers are all too frequent.

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Your love for Trump makes you blind.

 

I love someone else. Sorry Donald.

[gargamon]

17 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

The old slippery ramp. At least Trump was aware enough to take care. We all know where Joe would have ended up!

More trump lies. Nice sunny day. The general next to him didn't seem to be having problems.

Did you see he couldn't hold a glass of water in one hand without shaking so much he was spilling it? Needed two hands.