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2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Well, both , UK citizens who are White are more likely to be in receipt of benefits than non White British citizens 

The conversation is immigrants. Not race.

 

Immigrants benefits claims are not based on race. Neither are UK citizens.

 

Your comments suggest there are not any white immigrant in UK.

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Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The NHS implemented new rules over ten years ago , stating that Doctors need to pass an English speaking test to become Doctors 

 

Just another joke test

 

 

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1 minute ago, youreavinalaff said:

The conversation is immigrants. Not race.

 

Immigrants benefits claims are not based on race. Neither are UK citizens.

 

Your comments suggest there are not any white immigrant in UK.

 

   The claim was that Muslim immigrants are claiming benefits (Muslims aren't usually White) and I pointed out that statistically, White people are more likely to be claiming benefits than Brown people 

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Posted
19 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

White people, White Families are more likely to be receiving benefits than non white people/families .

Many immigrants work for the NHS and other low paying jobs .

So why import millions more to support?

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2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The claim was that Muslim immigrants are claiming benefits (Muslims aren't usually White) and I pointed out that statistically, White people are more likely to be claiming benefits than Brown people 

How many Muslims are on benefits in the UK?
 
Similarly, over 10% of those surveyed noted that they lived in social or council housing whilst a further 40% indicated that they were in receipt of some form of benefits. In both groups, over two-thirds of Muslims noted that they have experienced difficulty in affording at least one household bill.
 
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4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The claim was that Muslim immigrants are claiming benefits (Muslims aren't usually White) and I pointed out that statistically, White people are more likely to be claiming benefits than Brown people 

 

93% of black and asians in the uK receive state support, according ti the government

 

 

https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/work-pay-and-benefits/benefits/state-support/latest/

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25 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The claim was that Muslim immigrants are claiming benefits (Muslims aren't usually White) and I pointed out that statistically, White people are more likely to be claiming benefits than Brown people 

The claim was "most immigrants" are on benefits.

 

Also, the Government statistics show "state support" in their figures showing ethnic claimants. That includes government pension, which is not really a benefit as its been paid for.

 

I would imagine the figures would be quite different if pensions were not included. Give it 10 or so years it will change a lot too as second generation UK citizens become pensionable age.

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12 minutes ago, CharlieH said:
How many Muslims are on benefits in the UK?
 
Similarly, over 10% of those surveyed noted that they lived in social or council housing whilst a further 40% indicated that they were in receipt of some form of benefits. In both groups, over two-thirds of Muslims noted that they have experienced difficulty in affording at least one household bill.
 

Employment based benefits.

 

Proton is suggesting they are not contributing to the economy. 

 

Receiving employment based state support suggests they have been and likely still are.

 

What percentage of all UK citizens would 40% of Mudlims be? My guess would be around 10%.

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7 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

Employment based benefits.

 

Proton is suggesting they are not contributing to the economy. 

 

Receiving employment based state support suggests they have been and likely still are.

 

What percentage of all UK citizens would 40% of Mudlims be? My guess would be around 10%.

6.4% of the population are Muslim around 4 million as of 2021.

 

Source

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18 minutes ago, proton said:

 

93% of black and asians in the uK receive state support, according ti the government

 

 

https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/work-pay-and-benefits/benefits/state-support/latest/

 

   Well, yes, sort of .

43 % of Asians receive state support

51 % of Black people receive state support 

Add them both together and you do get 93 %

But to get a true figure , you would have to then divide by two

Giving the figure of 46 %

 

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6 minutes ago, billd766 said:

So why are indigent British people not stepping forwards in their millions to do these underpaid and overworked jobs? It would decrease the number of foreigners who are willing to do the work for less pay than a local Brit, or is it because they are better off on benefits and not working. And if local Brits don't want to do the work, who do you think will do the work?

Immigrants working lower paid jobs do not get paid less. They are subject to national living wage.

 

Also they have to earn enough to satisfy visa requirements.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

What percentage of all UK citizens would 40% of Mudlims be? My guess would be around 10%.

Much less than that. Less than 7% of the UK population are Muslim according to data in the 2021 Census. 40% of that would be under 3%, but what proportion of the 7% are of working age?

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4 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

6.4% of the population are Muslim around 4 million as of 2021.

 

Source

So, 40% of Muslims claiming state support is hardly a drain on the economy. Especially as much of it is employment based.

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4 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

So, 40% of Muslims claiming state support is hardly a drain on the economy. Especially as much of it is employment based.

 

   And you don't get many single Muslim mums , who get full hosing benefit for 18 years whilst their kid is growing up 

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