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The horrors endured by Hamas's hostages: Barely any food, forced to sleep on plastic chairs, waiting to be executed...

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Just now, stevenl said:

I am careful with the NGO reports, even more careful with the IDF reports and don't trust AJ reports at all 

 

But in this case she seems to have been denied counsel and other rights, I have not seen reports refuting that.

I have no idea about guild or not.

The person she tried to murder is pretty sure of her guilt.

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  • @billd766   Way to go Bill.....you're just one step away from making it the hostages' own fault.   Hamas hijacked these people. You're trying to hijack this topic.

  • It must be hard for them.   Their OWN Israeli government has stopped food, water, fuel and medical supplies to EVERYONE in Gaza.   It is harder still for the 1.9 MILLION Palestinia

  • Too bad it wasn't your mother, sister, wife or daughter taken hostage, then your lecture on how being gang-raped by animals is easier than being one the Palestinians that started the war when they tor

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2 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

The person she tried to murder is pretty sure of her guilt.

Has she received counsel and been tried? Telling you don't react to that part of my post and deflect.

Alleged victims are not the most reliable.

Just now, stevenl said:

Has she received counsel and been tried? Telling you don't react to that part of my post and deflect.

Alleged victims are not the most reliable.

Did the Israelis that were slaughtered when the murderous Palestinian terrorists infiltrated their country have a fair trial, I think not, but always believe the aggressors and not the victims eh Steven.

2 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Did the Israelis that were slaughtered when the murderous Palestinian terrorists infiltrated their country have a fair trial, I think not, but always believe the aggressors and not the victims eh Steven.

Deflecting again and a major lack of reading comprehension.

1 hour ago, Jeff the Chef said:

I believe in the rule of law, innocent until proven guilty.

 

   Until its Israel being accused of War Crimes , then its instant guilt and not even a trial or anything 

16 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Has she received counsel and been tried? Telling you don't react to that part of my post and deflect.

Alleged victims are not the most reliable.

She was only arrested in April after being shot by

 

IDF soldiers that witnessing the attack shot her to save the victim. She was taken into custody in April and she has been released. 

 

More on our dear Fatima:

Stabbing attack at Gush Etzion junction, attacker shot - The Jerusalem Post (jpost.com)

 

 

 

 

 

22 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Deflecting again and a major lack of reading comprehension.

I cannot fault your ad hom attacks though, extremely consistent. 

1 minute ago, Wobblybob said:

I cannot fault your ad hom attacks though, extremely consistent. 

He is nothing if not predictable...

Some of the released Palestinian child prisoners with their Hamas flags held high

 

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12 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

She was only arrested in April after being shot by

 

IDF soldiers that witnessing the attack shot her to save the victim. She was taken into custody in April and she has been released. 

 

More on our dear Fatima:

Stabbing attack at Gush Etzion junction, attacker shot - The Jerusalem Post (jpost.com)

 

 

 

 

 

So was she offered counsel and did she received a trial?

She was released as part of a prisoner exchange, not because of the judicial system.

2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

So was she offered counsel and did she received a trial?

What were her rights under the law at the time of her arrest? 

2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

She was released as part of a prisoner exchange, not because of the judicial system.

And? 

2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

So was she offered counsel and did she received a trial?

She was released as part of a prisoner exchange, not because of the judicial system.

For the life in me I cannot remember you getting hot and bothered when 1,200 Israelis were massacred in a fashion we have not seen the likes of for a very long time. It speaks volumes! 

53 minutes ago, stevenl said:

I am careful with the NGO reports, even more careful with the IDF reports and don't trust AJ reports at all 

 

But in this case she seems to have been denied counsel and other rights, I have not seen reports refuting that.

I have no idea about guild or not.

Are you really attempting to make a comparison between the Palestinian prisoners and the innocent Israeli civilians taken hostage, some of whom suffered serious sexual abuse and rape, let alone being shot. Others had their parents killed in front of them, or their sons and daughters killed in front of them by the terrorists. 

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

Are you really attempting to make a comparison between the Palestinian prisoners and the innocent Israeli civilians taken hostage, some of whom suffered serious sexual abuse and rape, let alone being shot. Others had their parents killed in front of them, or their sons and daughters killed in front of them by the terrorists. 

No.

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

No.

That's exactly what you've been doing, no good trying to back track now

5 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

For the life in me I cannot remember you getting hot and bothered when 1,200 Israelis were massacred in a fashion we have not seen the likes of for a very long time. It speaks volumes! 

I have condemned that loud and clearly.

But you're right, your selective reading and/or memory speaks volumes 

Just now, stevenl said:

Not related to my post, deflecting again.

Related to topic, but you seem intend on talking about prisoners

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

I have condemned that loud and clearly.

But you're right, your selective reading and/or memory speaks volumes 

Ad hom! 

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

I have condemned that loud and clearly.

But you're right, your selective reading and/or memory speaks volumes 

Yeah, I condemn 10/7 BUT it did not happen in a vacuum and the greedy colonialist oppressors had it coming!

 

 

2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Your opinions cloud your understanding.

Your lack of understanding clouds your opinions. 

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Yeah, I condemn 10/7 BUT it did not happen in a vacuum and the greedy colonialist oppressors had it coming!

 

 

 

Then you must accept that the Palestinians invaders of Israel had their reprisal Gaza levelling , turning to dust, coming 

5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Related to topic, but you seem intend on talking about prisoners

You quoted a post I made but didn't react to the post. That's called deflecting.

5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Yeah, I condemn 10/7 BUT it did not happen in a vacuum and the greedy colonialist oppressors had it coming!

 

 

Don't interpret my posts please.

7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Your lack of understanding clouds your opinions. 

Wrong but funny.

I hope this happens but its not looking likely anytime soon.

 

Israel Awaits Hamas' OK to Move Forward With Hostage Release Deal

Israel is awaiting Hamas' decision on whether it is willing to move forward with a hostage release deal in the coming weeks.
An Israeli official estimated that it will be possible to understand where the terror group is headed in the next two days, ahead of the arrival of a Hamas delegation for talks in Egypt.
A source familiar with the negotiations told Haaretz that, "The very fact that talks are still ongoing is an achievement at this stage. Both sides' positions are very far apart, and no drafts have been exchanged. 

https://archive.ph/TRLad

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-12-30/ty-article/.premium/israel-awaits-hamas-ok-to-move-forward-with-hostage-release-deal/0000018c-bc47-d45c-a98e-bf4fd8660000

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