Popular Post Wobblybob Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 2 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said: This is the problem 7/10 isn't all a Hamas thing, 16 years of oppression from Israel is as much to blame. Breaking news: 7/10 is an 'all Hamas thing'! You are now blaming Israel for these attacks. Unbelievably disgusting post. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 21 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said: Are you talking about Jews being evicted from their homes all over the Middle East and Europe ? Jews? Are you talking bible days or?? In any case lets stick to the Israeli's (settlers & militia that clears the land for them ) for now shall we? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Some posts trolling about Biden contravening our Community Standards have been removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 14 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said: Just a shame it's not Hamas going to see the ICJ That just a meaningless statement you keep parroting on. The original line of 'reasoning' on offer was, apparently, that only Israel's actions would be discussed and reviewed. This will obviously not be the case. As for Hamas - it's not a state agent, representative or authority - so I'm not sure your comment it even relevant with regard to the ICJ. In the past, when the PA did all these diplomatic maneuvers of joining treaties, international courts and so on, one of the major worries expressed was that it would open itself to legal action (being the official government/representative) even with regard to actions taken by Hamas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: As the Secretary General of the UN said, the attack did not happen in a vacuum, but you and the others that support Israel killing 20 thousand innocent Palestinians ( all the ones that are not in Hamas ) refuse to acknowledge the oppression, collective punishment, land theft and the blockade of Gaza that led to the attack in the first place. As for "the worst most horrific terrorist attack on innocent people the world has ever seen" I'm sure there are a few more in mankind's history that might qualify for that description. The same Secretary General of the UN also said that the 'not in a vacuum' thing does not serve to justify the Hamas attack. You and others routinely drop this part out of your comments. As for casualty figures, you're still doing the Hamas thing. 20,000 'innocent Palestinians' does not account for all the Hamas men killed, but lumps all the casualties together, so as to better serve the agenda. Some of the complaints you cite are nothing to do with the Gaza Strip (land theft), or are directly related to Hamas actions and agenda (the blockade). Your understanding of the 'not in a vacuum' concept seems oddly missing in this regard. As singular terrorist attacks go (as opposed to ongoing wars), the Hamas attack is quite out there, regardless of your minimization efforts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 3 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said: This is the problem 7/10 isn't all a Hamas thing, 16 years of oppression from Israel is as much to blame. 7/10 is a Hamas thing. That you try to make excuses for it, to justify it, normalize it - that doesn't carry much weight. All it does it make a mockery of them other posts in which you claim some sort of balance. All the more so since you cite '16 years of oppression'. That would make the context about the Gaza Strip, and Hamas's rule of. Much of the 'oppression', in this regard, is a direct result of Hamas's own actions and agenda. The blockade came about after Hamas assumed control of the Gaza Strip, it was not a permanent feature earlier. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 An unattributed troll post has been removed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 6 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: He clarified the following day, you should keep up. “I have condemned unequivocally the horrifying and unprecedented 7 October acts of terror by Hamas in Israel. Nothing can justify the deliberate killing, injuring and kidnapping of civilians — or the launching of rockets against civilian targets.” The secretary-general said he spoke of the grievances of the Palestinian people and also stated: “But the grievances of the Palestinian people cannot justify the appalling attacks by Hamas.” https://apnews.com/article/guterres-vacuum-cohen-erdan-justification-terrorism-47732bba62e2b1e9093bb76159ce236a Both bolded statements are true. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 This thread and subject is so tired and repetitious chowing on the same mantras that this topic doesn't even appear in the popular posts section any longer for many days now, with the same posters arguing and trying to convince the same opposite posters over and over again using the same arguments, Grow up guys, no one here persuaded either way anyway so why the bother?... Quote 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 30 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Both bolded statements are true. @ozimoron Yes, and? That's pretty much a standing comment from people replying to your own 'arguments'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) 12 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: I have to assume you will be going to take your own advice. Bye bye. when you ASSUME you make an ASS of U and ME... And beside, it seems that most posters here are posting for the sake of posting and arguing with not much merits to the topic or the subject... Edited January 7 by ezzra 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 59 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Both bolded statements are true. bless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Just now, Bkk Brian said: bless I'm an atheist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 5 minutes ago, ozimoron said: I'm an atheist. Bless so am I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff the Chef Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 4 hours ago, Morch said: 7/10 is a Hamas thing. That you try to make excuses for it, to justify it, normalize it - that doesn't carry much weight. All it does it make a mockery of them other posts in which you claim some sort of balance. All the more so since you cite '16 years of oppression'. That would make the context about the Gaza Strip, and Hamas's rule of. Much of the 'oppression', in this regard, is a direct result of Hamas's own actions and agenda. The blockade came about after Hamas assumed control of the Gaza Strip, it was not a permanent feature earlier. Yes, I agree 7/10 is a Hamas thing, but you cannot dismiss what has gone on in Gaza for years, committed by Israeli forces in the form of being concentration guards. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 14 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said: Yes, I agree 7/10 is a Hamas thing, but you cannot dismiss what has gone on in Gaza for years, committed by Israeli forces in the form of being concentration guards. "concentration guards" Another sick post. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: "concentration guards" Another sick post. Many aspects of this conflict are sick but what makes me really sick is shooting children who throw rocks which has been going on for many years now. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Just now, ozimoron said: Many aspects of this conflict are sick but what makes me really sick is shooting children who throw rocks which has been going on for many years now. Defection from my response to the post: 24 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said: Yes, I agree 7/10 is a Hamas thing, but you cannot dismiss what has gone on in Gaza for years, committed by Israeli forces in the form of being concentration guards. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: Defection from my response to the post: It was an example of precisely what he was referring to. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ozimoron said: It was an example of precisely what he was referring to. Another deflection to the conjuring of the holocaust and concentration guards Edited January 7 by Bkk Brian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff the Chef Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Very good analysis of the Israeli genocide charges at the International Court of Justice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRKIYqjbpVY&ab_channel=BreakingPoints 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Another deflection to the conjuring of the holocaust and concentration guards I never mentioned the holocaust or "concentration guards". Take your nazi allegations elsewhere. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ozimoron said: I never mentioned the holocaust or "concentration guards". Take your nazi allegations elsewhere. 36 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said: Yes, I agree 7/10 is a Hamas thing, but you cannot dismiss what has gone on in Gaza for years, committed by Israeli forces in the form of being concentration guards. Edited January 7 by Bkk Brian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 What's wrong with you? I am not Jeff. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 4 minutes ago, ozimoron said: What's wrong with you? I am not Jeff. But it didn't happen in a vacuum, right? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) 13 minutes ago, ozimoron said: What's wrong with you? I am not Jeff. If your going to constantly follow me about then at least follow posts that I respond to and then you jump in to defend. What do you think a "concentration guard" is? They guard a concentration camp. ie holocaust 51 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said: Yes, I agree 7/10 is a Hamas thing, but you cannot dismiss what has gone on in Gaza for years, committed by Israeli forces in the form of being concentration guards. 36 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: "concentration guards" Another sick post. 28 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Many aspects of this conflict are sick but what makes me really sick is shooting children who throw rocks which has been going on for many years now. 24 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Another deflection to the conjuring of the holocaust and concentration guards Edited January 7 by Bkk Brian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: If your going to constantly follow me about then at least follow posts that I respond to and then you jump in to defend. I'm not defending him, I pointed out what IDF guards do that makes me physically sick. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) Just now, ozimoron said: I'm not defending him, I pointed out what IDF guards do that makes me physically sick. Couldnt care less what makes you sick, its nothing as sick as a concentration guard and the holocaust, got it now. Edited January 7 by Bkk Brian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Just now, Bkk Brian said: Couldnt care less what makes you sick, its nothing as sick as a concentration guard and the holocaust, got it now. I never mentioned the holocaust or concentration guards. Nor did I quote anybody who did. Do you understand what the word conflation means?> 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Couldnt care less what makes you sick, its nothing as sick as a concentration guard and the holocaust, got it now. I'm quite willing to say that raping and killing of civilians is sick as well as guards wearing flak jackets and helmets shooting kids throwing rocks is just as sick. Are you? Edited January 7 by ozimoron 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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